Hi list and Jean, Yes,Jean,that is my Rev.William Verdun,25 Peel street,Salford in 1850,his name should be Verdon....then why can l not find him on the 1851 census,l look to no avail.l have looked for his wife and children,nothing....yet l know they are there.In 1854 he became incumbent at Pendlebury but then he dies a few years later so l miss him on the 1861 census.l have his wife,then remarried,though,and some of the children who are at various schools etc. l also find his brother Edward at Tottington no problem,,just wish l could find William,Sophia and family. Thanks Jean for all of your help,Pauline.