Hi Anne, Thank you for your answer. I understand what you mean!!!!! I too have been "barking up too many wrong trees" and I know I am still doing it. I just keep trying anything that looks plausable (even though most are wrong) in the hope, that this time it is going to be right. That is why with the 1841 and looking at the whereabouts, ages off James, Sarah & Charles aged 1. (brother Isaac had not been born at this time), and knowing that James & Sarah had married in 1830, this has always made think that there must have been some more children earlier (who did survive). James & Sarah had my gt. gt. grandfather born in 1840, and another son Isaac in 1843. I felt it was worth a try, that they may be the one's in 1841. The Warburton name has also been spelt in different ways (e.g. Wharburton in 1861, Warbutton on my gt.gt. grandfather Charles's birth certificate. (but with the right parents and area off where he was born from 2 censuses.) Thank you for all your help. Also thank you to Jan and Margaret, I really appreciate all three for your help. Best wishes Gisela Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: anne walsh To: Ron & Gisela Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:26 PM Subject: Re: Isaac Warburton 1851 (image) Hi Gisela,the Warburtons I found just didn't feel right-----perhaps it's just me----I've barked up too many wrong family trees so I tend to be overcautious !!! Hope the ones you have been sent are indeed the right ones. Anne :0) On 5/17/08, Ron & Gisela <rongis@bigpond.com> wrote: Hi Anne, Thank you, This has come through. May I ask why you are not convinced with what was found on 1841 censuses? Thanks again, Best wishes Gisela ----- Original Message ----- From: anne walsh To: rongis@bigpond.com Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:36 PM Subject: Isaac Warburton 1851 (image) Hi, not convinced with what I found on 1841,but think this one is good. Best wishes Anne,UK.