Hi List, I would like some help, if possible Is anyone related to the PENSON, WILLIS, JOHNSON family below. The JOHNSON family would be off great interest to me! I have a William PENSON bapt. 3rd April, 1831, Lilleshall, Shropshire. "2 x gt. grandfather" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agnes WILLIS married William PENSON in 1855 at Manchester Cathedral Ann PENSON was born in 1855. She is my 1 x great grandmother. Ellen PENSON was born in 1857. (Her sister). Maybe someone has her in their files? I do not know if she married or not. They had a step sister Elizabeth WILLIS, it would be so interesting to know what happened to her. She was bapt. 1852, 14th Aug. born SALFORD. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Agnes PENSON married Robert JOHNSON Sept. 13th 1868. I Have not found out when "William PENSON" died yet. I Have Not been able to find the DEATH of WILLIAM PENSON" and I think I have gone through every death off William PENSON on any site I can find. I really want to find his death. MARRIAGE: 2nd Marriage of Agnes WILLIS aged 39 to Robert JOHNSON aged 51 took place at 4th Sept. 1868 at St. Simon, Salford Parish Church. Both had deceased partners. MARRIAGE: Witnesses were Henry WILLIS (possible brother or relative of Agnes born in Scotland 1846,which would make him about 22) & Charlotte DARLING/DARLING who was the only one who did not sign with an X. MARRIAGE: Father of groom was Thomas JOHNSON. Father of Agnes was John WILLIS. No indication if fathers were deceased. (But I do know now that John (George) Willis, a block printer was deceased). MARRIAGE: Have written copy of cert. 265. All the PENSON family were living at 41 Booster Street, Salford in 1861, and in 1871 Agnes the mother has remarried and is living in 79 Hough Lane. The last name of the 15 year old daughter looks as if it could have been Annie age 15 but I am not sure as she is down as daughter under JOHNSON, but the numerator at the time could have gotten this wrong as in the 1861 census for Robert JOHNSON with his first wife and more children the last child was 5 and named Joseph. And this fits in with the 1871 census, he is 15 and his brother George is 18 (George was a witness at Ann Penson's marriage in 1874). Elizabeth Willis is not there, but there is a boarder named William J. Willis so he may be a brother or relative off Agnes.. Have copy of this census. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ William PENSON moved to Macclesfield, Cheshire (13 Pinfold Street, which is still standing) sometime between 1831 & 1841 as he is on the 1841 aged 10 census and on the 1851 census aged 20, working as a baker. 1861 Census living at Brooster Street, Salford, Lancashire, England In 1861 census William is living with wife Agnes 3 x g.grandmother (nee WILLIS, whom he married 8th April 1855). Stepdaughter Elizabeth WILLIS aged 7 Daughter Ann PENSON aged 5 (2x g.grandmother) Daughter Ellen PENSON aged 3 In 1851 census, he is a bread maker in Pinfold Street, Macclesfield, Cheshire, and all the family are there. In 1841, he is aged 10. Pinfold Street. His father James Penson (occ. mason) is missing, also his sisters Elizabeth, Ann and brother Thomas are missing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Also have photocopy of marriage certificate from Manchester Cathedral. Year: 1855 Registration District: Manchester Marriage Solemnized at: The Cath & Parish Church In the Parish of: Manchester in the County of Lancaster Date: April 8th 1855 Names: William Penson & Agnes Willis Age: 24 & 25 Condition Bachelor Spinster His Occupation: Soda Water Manufacturer Residence: Lamb Lane Salford (for both bride & groom). Father of Groom: James Penson His Occupation: Mason Father of the bride:- John WILLIS His Occupation:- Block Printer According to the Rites and Ceremonies of the Established Church after Banns Witness: Joshua Smith & Sarah Jane Willis Witnesses of his marriage are Joshua SMITH & Sarah Jane WILLIS (appears to be sister of Agnes?) All except William (who signs his in his own handwriting) sign with an X. Would appreciate any answers off anyone who has any knowledge off the above people. Best regards Gisela