Hi Ruth, Well it was a long shot, as you originally said. I can only "find" an Alice Hulme (not even an Alice and George Burgess) She's a 40 yr old cook born and living in Cheshire. Let me know if you want the image. There is an Alice Burgess living at Altcar Lancs with: Elizabeth Burgess 70 Henry Burgess 65 Mary Burgess 25 William Burgess 25 (Another long shot that she is living with in-laws and hubby missing.) I am sending an image off list for a John and Isabella Fleming, although age of Isabella not exact (even allowing for the "rounding down") There are 2 Samuel Hulmes' Still looking for the other men - I've given up on the women! Pat W ----- Original Message ----- From: RuthGenda@aol.com To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 12:01 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] BRIDG(E)FORD Hi Pat Thank you so much. Yes, I have all 14 names and DOBs of John and Hannah BRIDG(E)FORD's children. So... here we go... Elizabeth 26 Sep 1784 Sarah 20 Aug 1786 (married Stephen MUNBY) Thomas 11 May 1788 Hannah 22 Aug 1790 Mary 28 Oct 1792 Ellen 3 Nov 1793 John 3 Aug 1795 William 22 Jan 1797 Frances 27 May 1798 Joseph 2 Feb 1800 Alice Hulme 15 Nov 1801 (married George BURGESS) Isabella 19 Feb 1804 (married John FLEMING) Samuel Hulme 25 Aug 1805 James Rawson 8 Mar 1807 Sarah, whose second husband was Stephen Munby, was my 2xggrandmother. Pat. please don't go to a lot of trouble over this. What I really need to do is go back to parish registers (Manchester Cathedral mainly). But I don't think they are yet on line. I can track some of the boys through the trade directories, but the girls are elusive. Thanks again Ruth