I found the following on the IGI site . Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada William Robert Ward Birth: 1836 Moston, Lancashire, England Wife Sarah Heywood Birth: 03 MAR 1839 Nutt Rd,Blackley, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Marriage: 28 OCT 1860 St Johns Church, Lancaster, Lancashire, England Death: 17 Jul 1909 Father: Lambert Heywood Mother: Sally Walto OR w u h: 28 APR 1900 ----- Original Message ----- From: "D C" <dc_kiwi_nz@hotmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2008 6:13 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Ward Bros - business and query re birth of William Ward > I am a direct descendant of one of his brothers named William Ward, born > 1836. > By the way, if William was born after his parents became members of a > church that did not baptise babies but only believing adults, is there > another way of finding his birth online? The IGI shows the birth if the > children up to and including John but not William born 1836 or George > bornabout 1840. <snipped>