Dear list members, is there a kind soul who can look up a birth record for me............. please ? I paid for what I thought was John Atkin's birth certificate. The British office sent me the wrong document. Its the wrong parents and the wrong date. I have tried three times to correct them but they wont admit they have made a mistake. I wondered if by chance some kind soul might be able to locate the correct birth record/ birth certificate? I have John ATKIN as born in Salford in 1840. His parents should be John and Mary Atkin. His mothers maiden name might be Mary Ashton. All future census records say he was born in Salford. There was a John ATKIN age 7 months old during the 1841 Manchester census, with parents John and Mary ATKIN. I assume they are my relatives. My John died in Scotland in 1897 his death records gave his parents names as John ATKIN and Mary DANIEL. But both these people were dead at this time so I assume the DANIEL was hearsay. Its my brick wall, I do hope someone can locate a hammer :)) All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada

Dear Mike: I hate to bring bad news but it's entirely possible that this birth was never registered. Many births at this early date (less than 3 years after the start of civil registration) missed being registered. It was not mandatory and I'm sure a few slipped through because their parents didn't even know they were supposed to do it. Patricia's advice is good though. I've found that the Manchester Registrar's Office is very helpful. They will look things up and let you know if the cert you want actually exists - before you pay for it. Have a go - you might still be lucky. Best wishes, Irene PS The local BMD's are showing an 1840 birth for John Aitken in Hulme - any good?

Mike, Another thought!! When I couldn't find my Grandfather's birth registration, I e-mailed: http://www.gmcro.co.uk/ and they were a great help --- all free! ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Morris To: AAA Send mail Manchester Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:57 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] John ATKIN birth record in Salford Dear list members, is there a kind soul who can look up a birth record for me............. please ? I paid for what I thought was John Atkin's birth certificate. The British office sent me the wrong document. Its the wrong parents and the wrong date. I have tried three times to correct them but they wont admit they have made a mistake.

I've just used the link to GMCRO and it says "Please note that we do not have certificates of any kind. These are obtainable from the local register offices" Can I ask, how can they search for a birth and check that the parents are correct? I have a father and son, both called Samuel, but cannot find the birth of either. We know that they exist as we have their respective marriage certs and photos of them! I would be most interested in asking the GMCRO for help but just wondered how they could do it if they don't hold the certificates. Heather patricia williams wrote: > Mike, > Another thought!! > > When I couldn't find my Grandfather's birth registration, I e-mailed: > > http://www.gmcro.co.uk/ > > and they were a great help --- all free! > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike Morris > To: AAA Send mail Manchester > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:57 PM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] John ATKIN birth record in Salford > > Dear list members, is there a kind soul who can look up a birth record for > me............. please ? > > I paid for what I thought was John Atkin's birth certificate. The British > office sent me the wrong document. Its the wrong parents and the wrong date. > I have tried three times to correct them but they wont admit they have made > a mistake. > >