Hi Ted, Have I got this right -- the father was 73yrs old when his child was born? http://home.clara.net/dixons/Certificates/bmdemail.htm This link is to a web site that used to give advice re certificates. Several of the pages are now "not found" but the site still seems to be functional for e-mail queries. I'm sure someone here could answer your query though! If you are not already on the Lancs-gen list, then I can recommend it! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Ted Thomas To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2008 1:26 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] : A Birth Query. Hello ! Manchester, I have a Birth certificate of a Ancestor born Birkenhead, Cheshire, 1902.which although, shows the father's first <snip> I am wondering whether there is anyone who can please, tell me whether the Registry Office, would hold a consequent record, of a document which, would under the above circumstances contain a specimen of the father's signature, or mark of a cross, of authenticity that may hopefully, enable me to hold a candle to, that which should appear on his original 1876 marriage certificate. Kind regards to all, Ted (New Zealand)