Hi Helen Do you have the given name of your Gt Grandmother? Where did you find the limited info that you have? How concrete/reliable is it? Or just word of mouth? There would be orphanages all over the country - in most major towns. Do you know that she came from Manchester? Or just Lancashire? Or just "north England, possibly Scotland"?! I'd be happy to look on the 1851 census but need a little more info, if you have it. Heather HELEN wrote: > Since I was last on this list I have found out my grtgrandmother was raised in an orphanage. > > The only information she left behind was that she was 16 when she arrived in NZ, arrived in 1858 [cannot find her on shipping] and her father was a painter. > > Did any orphanage records survive ? Where would I find them ? In what areas were the orphanages ? > > TIA > > Helen >

Hi Heather, Thank you. I have been trying to look at the 1851c on Ancestry but the pages won't open up. I have sent a msg to them. Her name is Elizabeth Ellen Radcliffe. That she was raised in an orphanage is by word of mouth. But official records say she was born in Manchester, arrived at age 16 in 1858. She is not on shipping records so we think she may have come out as a nurse maid and not put on the shipping list. ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > Hi Helen > > Do you have the given name of your Gt Grandmother? > > Where did you find the limited info that you have? How > concrete/reliable is it? Or just word of mouth? > > There would be orphanages all over the country - in most major towns. > Do you know that she came from Manchester? Or just Lancashire? Or just > "north England, possibly Scotland"?! > > I'd be happy to look on the 1851 census but need a little more info, if > you have it. > Heather > > > HELEN wrote: >> Since I was last on this list I have found out my grtgrandmother was >> raised in an orphanage. >> >> The only information she left behind was that she was 16 when she arrived >> in NZ, arrived in 1858 [cannot find her on shipping] and her father was a >> painter. >> >> Did any orphanage records survive ? Where would I find them ? In what >> areas were the orphanages ? >> >> TIA >> >> Helen >> > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Helen I've had a look for you but cannot see anything :-( There are 3 x Ellen RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire between 1837 and 1847 (+/-5 from 1842 - 1858-16) and 11 x Eli* RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire (same time frame). If you can access the list but not the images, let me know which look most promising and I will access them for you. I would look at them all now but I'm not sure what I'm looking for as most are "daughters" (ie living with parents). Sorry I couldn't wave a magic wand for you ;-) Heather PS Oh, just a thought, she might be on the water-damaged images of 1851. In which case you need someone with the CDs of the transcriptions. HELEN wrote: > Hi Heather, > > Thank you. I have been trying to look at the 1851c on Ancestry but the > pages won't open up. I have sent a msg to them. > > Her name is Elizabeth Ellen Radcliffe. > > That she was raised in an orphanage is by word of mouth. But official > records say she was born in Manchester, arrived at age 16 in 1858. > > She is not on shipping records so we think she may have come out as a nurse > maid and not put on the shipping list. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > > > >> Hi Helen >> >> Do you have the given name of your Gt Grandmother? >> >> Where did you find the limited info that you have? How >> concrete/reliable is it? Or just word of mouth? >> >> There would be orphanages all over the country - in most major towns. >> Do you know that she came from Manchester? Or just Lancashire? Or just >> "north England, possibly Scotland"?! >> >> I'd be happy to look on the 1851 census but need a little more info, if >> you have it. >> Heather >> >> >> HELEN wrote: >> >>> Since I was last on this list I have found out my grtgrandmother was >>> raised in an orphanage. >>> >>> The only information she left behind was that she was 16 when she arrived >>> in NZ, arrived in 1858 [cannot find her on shipping] and her father was a >>> painter. >>> >>> Did any orphanage records survive ? Where would I find them ? In what >>> areas were the orphanages ? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Helen

Thank you Heather. The images are opening up now, tho' not giving me anything. I have asked for a lookup but none forcoming yet. Thanks again. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 4:22 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > Hi Helen > > I've had a look for you but cannot see anything :-( > > There are 3 x Ellen RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire between 1837 and 1847 > (+/-5 from 1842 - 1858-16) and 11 x Eli* RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire > (same time frame). > > If you can access the list but not the images, let me know which look > most promising and I will access them for you. I would look at them all > now but I'm not sure what I'm looking for as most are "daughters" (ie > living with parents). > > Sorry I couldn't wave a magic wand for you ;-) > Heather > > PS Oh, just a thought, she might be on the water-damaged images of > 1851. In which case you need someone with the CDs of the transcriptions. > > > > > > HELEN wrote: >> Hi Heather, >> >> Thank you. I have been trying to look at the 1851c on Ancestry but the >> pages won't open up. I have sent a msg to them. >> >> Her name is Elizabeth Ellen Radcliffe. >> >> That she was raised in an orphanage is by word of mouth. But official >> records say she was born in Manchester, arrived at age 16 in 1858. >> >> She is not on shipping records so we think she may have come out as a >> nurse >> maid and not put on the shipping list. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> >> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:28 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE >> >> >> >>> Hi Helen >>> >>> Do you have the given name of your Gt Grandmother? >>> >>> Where did you find the limited info that you have? How >>> concrete/reliable is it? Or just word of mouth? >>> >>> There would be orphanages all over the country - in most major towns. >>> Do you know that she came from Manchester? Or just Lancashire? Or just >>> "north England, possibly Scotland"?! >>> >>> I'd be happy to look on the 1851 census but need a little more info, if >>> you have it. >>> Heather >>> >>> >>> HELEN wrote: >>> >>>> Since I was last on this list I have found out my grtgrandmother was >>>> raised in an orphanage. >>>> >>>> The only information she left behind was that she was 16 when she >>>> arrived >>>> in NZ, arrived in 1858 [cannot find her on shipping] and her father was >>>> a >>>> painter. >>>> >>>> Did any orphanage records survive ? Where would I find them ? In >>>> what >>>> areas were the orphanages ? >>>> >>>> TIA >>>> >>>> Helen > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message