Hello, I am researching the BAINES family who lived in Manchester. I'm having trouble getting back past Dennis Baines, born about 1829 in Manchester. He was a shoemaker and this seems to have been the family trade. I have the family *forward* from Dennis and I have a marriage for Dennis to Mary Carney 1859 on which certificate it cites his father as John. I live in Queensland Australia and would appreciate any advice as to where I might go next. Many thanks, Pat

As Dennis is often an Irish forename and CARNEY is an Irish surname, you should probably be on the look out for Irish forbears. Dennis is a version of Dionysus and you can sometimes find it spelled that way even in Victorian times. 1829 is early for Irish immigration to Manchester but not unusual. As a transcriber of Manchester census records, I can tell you that there will be many different variations on the BAINES surname. Certainly it's hard to distinguish between BAINES and BARNES for example. I'd also check BURN(E)(S).   Is Dennis's place of birth consistent on census returns? Is his age consistent on census, marriage and death records? Are there any siblings that you can trace? Sibs are often worth tracking down throughout their lives as they may end up looking after their elderly parents or other relatives. They may have other places of birth which would give you other avenues of research.   hth, Irene   PS There is a Dennis BURNS in Barton on Irwell in 1851. He's a shoe maker born Ireland but living with the CARNEY family. Looks a likely candidate to me. Ref: HO107  Piece:2218 Folio:52 Page:38  From: Patricia Gee <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 6:41 AM >Subject: [ENG-MAN] Dennis Baines > >Hello, > >I am researching the BAINES family who lived in Manchester.  I'm having >trouble getting back past Dennis Baines, born about 1829 in Manchester.  He >was a shoemaker and this seems to have been the family trade. > >I have the family *forward* from Dennis and I have a marriage for Dennis to >Mary Carney 1859 on which certificate it cites his father as John. > >I live in Queensland Australia and would appreciate any advice as to where I >might go next. > >Many thanks, > >Pat >  >  > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Pat, Did you find Dennis on the 1841 census? could her be the Dennis Bane aged 12 with a mother? Lucy Bane 30 born Ireland, they ar in the household of James Cassady, Regards Dianne Melbourne