it could also be interpreted from a Manchester accent as hollers - at least that is how it might sound! with a short "r" if that makes sense. Accents are so fascinating aren't they? Val On 20 April 2011 13:14, Marian Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh that's interesting! Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > I know that HALLOW(E)S AND  HOLLIS are the same in Derbyshire. Parts > of the dialect seem very similar to the flat Lancashire accent (no > offense intended!).I live in Stockport, Cheshire so am stuck in the > middle of both. If you try saying hallows quick it sort of comes out > like hollis. Before I learnt this I would pronounced Hallows like > hallowed ground but now try to remember the other way to do my > research. I'm interested in this because I have a lot of Hallowes of > Derbyshire in my family. > > Val > > On 20 April 2011 11:55, Marian Foster <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Yes I wondered about that and what about Hallows being something like > > Allus/Allis? Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christine Benson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > >I would have thought HOLLIS might be pronounced "Ollus" as well, with the > > > "H" dropped and the second syllable unstressed so the vowel could be > > > anything. > > > > > > Christine > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marian Foster > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:25 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > A pleasure! Hope it helps, thanks for the reply. It occurs to me that in > > > a > > > proper old fashioned working class Lancashire accent Hollows might be > > > pronounced something like Ollus. What do other listers think? Marian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris & George Jamieson" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > > > >> Thanks to both Marian and Irene for their advice below. The 1841 > > >> marriage - > > >> which I hadn't seen thanks Marian - is worth pursuing and I'll do that. > > >> And > > >> getting Joseph's birth cert is a good suggestion too Irene, and thanks > > >> also > > >> for the pronunciation suggestion. Both of you have helped me progress a > > >> little with this family. > > >> All best > > >> Chris, Sydney > > >> > > >>> 1. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Marian Foster) > > >>> 5. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Irene Marlborough) > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hi there, Could it possibly be Hannah Hallows 25 Aug 1841 Manchester > > >>> Cathedral? I know it's late but .... ??? Marian > > >> > > >> snip >> Although I have found the apparent baptisms of George & > > >> Hannah's > > >> 3 > > >>>> children > > >>>> at Cathedral, Manchester (IGI) - William on 5 Oct 1834; and Thomas & > > >>>> Joseph > > >>>> on 8 Nov 1840 - I have yet to find a marriage record for George & > > >>>> Hannah. > > >>> > > >> and from Irene > > >> snip >> It may be worth applying for Joseph's birth certificate.> ? > > >>> And I would pronounce Hollis like Holly with a soft?'ss' at the end. > > >>> ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >> > > >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >> > > >> > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > > >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Yes they are, what about Ollers? M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER it could also be interpreted from a Manchester accent as hollers - at least that is how it might sound! with a short "r" if that makes sense. Accents are so fascinating aren't they? Val On 20 April 2011 13:14, Marian Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Oh that's interesting! Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:26 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > I know that HALLOW(E)S AND HOLLIS are the same in Derbyshire. Parts > of the dialect seem very similar to the flat Lancashire accent (no > offense intended!).I live in Stockport, Cheshire so am stuck in the > middle of both. If you try saying hallows quick it sort of comes out > like hollis. Before I learnt this I would pronounced Hallows like > hallowed ground but now try to remember the other way to do my > research. I'm interested in this because I have a lot of Hallowes of > Derbyshire in my family. > > Val > > On 20 April 2011 11:55, Marian Foster <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Yes I wondered about that and what about Hallows being something like > > Allus/Allis? Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christine Benson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 AM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > >I would have thought HOLLIS might be pronounced "Ollus" as well, with > > >the > > > "H" dropped and the second syllable unstressed so the vowel could be > > > anything. > > > > > > Christine > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Marian Foster > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:25 AM > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > A pleasure! Hope it helps, thanks for the reply. It occurs to me that > > > in > > > a > > > proper old fashioned working class Lancashire accent Hollows might be > > > pronounced something like Ollus. What do other listers think? Marian > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris & George Jamieson" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:40 AM > > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > > > > >> Thanks to both Marian and Irene for their advice below. The 1841 > > >> marriage - > > >> which I hadn't seen thanks Marian - is worth pursuing and I'll do > > >> that. > > >> And > > >> getting Joseph's birth cert is a good suggestion too Irene, and > > >> thanks > > >> also > > >> for the pronunciation suggestion. Both of you have helped me progress > > >> a > > >> little with this family. > > >> All best > > >> Chris, Sydney > > >> > > >>> 1. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Marian Foster) > > >>> 5. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Irene Marlborough) > > >>> > > >> > > >>> Hi there, Could it possibly be Hannah Hallows 25 Aug 1841 Manchester > > >>> Cathedral? I know it's late but .... ??? Marian > > >> > > >> snip >> Although I have found the apparent baptisms of George & > > >> Hannah's > > >> 3 > > >>>> children > > >>>> at Cathedral, Manchester (IGI) - William on 5 Oct 1834; and Thomas > > >>>> & > > >>>> Joseph > > >>>> on 8 Nov 1840 - I have yet to find a marriage record for George & > > >>>> Hannah. > > >>> > > >> and from Irene > > >> snip >> It may be worth applying for Joseph's birth certificate.> ? > > >>> And I would pronounce Hollis like Holly with a soft?'ss' at the end. > > >>> ? > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >> > > >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >> > > >> > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >> > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > >> without > > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >> > > >> ______________________________________________ > > >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email