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    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER
    2. Marian Foster

    3. Yes I wondered about that and what about Hallows being something like Allus/Allis? Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christine Benson" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER >I would have thought HOLLIS might be pronounced "Ollus" as well, with the > "H" dropped and the second syllable unstressed so the vowel could be > anything. > > Christine > > -----Original Message----- > From: Marian Foster > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:25 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > A pleasure! Hope it helps, thanks for the reply. It occurs to me that in a > proper old fashioned working class Lancashire accent Hollows might be > pronounced something like Ollus. What do other listers think? Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris & George Jamieson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:40 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > >> Thanks to both Marian and Irene for their advice below. The 1841 >> marriage - >> which I hadn't seen thanks Marian - is worth pursuing and I'll do that. >> And >> getting Joseph's birth cert is a good suggestion too Irene, and thanks >> also >> for the pronunciation suggestion. Both of you have helped me progress a >> little with this family. >> All best >> Chris, Sydney >> >>> 1. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Marian Foster) >>> 5. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Irene Marlborough) >>> >> >>> Hi there, Could it possibly be Hannah Hallows 25 Aug 1841 Manchester >>> Cathedral? I know it's late but .... ??? Marian >> >> snip >> Although I have found the apparent baptisms of George & Hannah's >> 3 >>>> children >>>> at Cathedral, Manchester (IGI) - William on 5 Oct 1834; and Thomas & >>>> Joseph >>>> on 8 Nov 1840 - I have yet to find a marriage record for George & >>>> Hannah. >>> >> and from Irene >> snip >> It may be worth applying for Joseph's birth certificate.> ? >>> And I would pronounce Hollis like Holly with a soft?'ss' at the end. >>> ? >> >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ______________________________________________ >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email >> >> > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

    04/20/2011 05:55:57
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER
    2. Val

    3. I know that HALLOW(E)S AND HOLLIS are the same in Derbyshire. Parts of the dialect seem very similar to the flat Lancashire accent (no offense intended!).I live in Stockport, Cheshire so am stuck in the middle of both. If you try saying hallows quick it sort of comes out like hollis. Before I learnt this I would pronounced Hallows like hallowed ground but now try to remember the other way to do my research. I'm interested in this because I have a lot of Hallowes of Derbyshire in my family. Val On 20 April 2011 11:55, Marian Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes I wondered about that and what about Hallows being something like > Allus/Allis? Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Benson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > >I would have thought HOLLIS might be pronounced "Ollus" as well, with the > > "H" dropped and the second syllable unstressed so the vowel could be > > anything. > > > > Christine > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marian Foster > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:25 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > A pleasure! Hope it helps, thanks for the reply. It occurs to me that in a > > proper old fashioned working class Lancashire accent Hollows might be > > pronounced something like Ollus. What do other listers think? Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris & George Jamieson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > >> Thanks to both Marian and Irene for their advice below.  The 1841 > >> marriage - > >> which I hadn't seen thanks Marian - is worth pursuing and I'll do that. > >> And > >> getting Joseph's birth cert is a good suggestion too Irene, and thanks > >> also > >> for the pronunciation suggestion.  Both of you have helped me progress a > >> little with this family. > >> All best > >> Chris, Sydney > >> > >>>   1. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Marian Foster) > >>>   5. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Irene Marlborough) > >>> > >> > >>> Hi there, Could it possibly be Hannah Hallows 25 Aug 1841 Manchester > >>> Cathedral? I know it's late but .... ??? Marian > >> > >> snip >> Although I have found the apparent baptisms of George & Hannah's > >> 3 > >>>> children > >>>> at Cathedral, Manchester (IGI) - William on 5 Oct 1834; and Thomas & > >>>> Joseph > >>>> on 8 Nov 1840 - I have yet to find a marriage record for George & > >>>> Hannah. > >>> > >> and from Irene > >> snip >> It may be worth applying for Joseph's birth certificate.> ? > >>> And I would pronounce Hollis like Holly with a soft?'ss' at the end. > >>> ? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >> > >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > >> > >> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/20/2011 06:26:23
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER
    2. Marian Foster

    3. Oh that's interesting! Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER I know that HALLOW(E)S AND HOLLIS are the same in Derbyshire. Parts of the dialect seem very similar to the flat Lancashire accent (no offense intended!).I live in Stockport, Cheshire so am stuck in the middle of both. If you try saying hallows quick it sort of comes out like hollis. Before I learnt this I would pronounced Hallows like hallowed ground but now try to remember the other way to do my research. I'm interested in this because I have a lot of Hallowes of Derbyshire in my family. Val On 20 April 2011 11:55, Marian Foster <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes I wondered about that and what about Hallows being something like > Allus/Allis? Marian > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christine Benson" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 11:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > >I would have thought HOLLIS might be pronounced "Ollus" as well, with the > > "H" dropped and the second syllable unstressed so the vowel could be > > anything. > > > > Christine > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Marian Foster > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:25 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > A pleasure! Hope it helps, thanks for the reply. It occurs to me that in > > a > > proper old fashioned working class Lancashire accent Hollows might be > > pronounced something like Ollus. What do other listers think? Marian > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris & George Jamieson" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 12:40 AM > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HOLLIS & WALKER > > > > > >> Thanks to both Marian and Irene for their advice below. The 1841 > >> marriage - > >> which I hadn't seen thanks Marian - is worth pursuing and I'll do that. > >> And > >> getting Joseph's birth cert is a good suggestion too Irene, and thanks > >> also > >> for the pronunciation suggestion. Both of you have helped me progress a > >> little with this family. > >> All best > >> Chris, Sydney > >> > >>> 1. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Marian Foster) > >>> 5. Re: HOLLIS & WALKER (Irene Marlborough) > >>> > >> > >>> Hi there, Could it possibly be Hannah Hallows 25 Aug 1841 Manchester > >>> Cathedral? I know it's late but .... ??? Marian > >> > >> snip >> Although I have found the apparent baptisms of George & > >> Hannah's > >> 3 > >>>> children > >>>> at Cathedral, Manchester (IGI) - William on 5 Oct 1834; and Thomas & > >>>> Joseph > >>>> on 8 Nov 1840 - I have yet to find a marriage record for George & > >>>> Hannah. > >>> > >> and from Irene > >> snip >> It may be worth applying for Joseph's birth certificate.> ? > >>> And I would pronounce Hollis like Holly with a soft?'ss' at the end. > >>> ? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >> > >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > >> > >> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> ______________________________________________ > >> This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > >> http://www.netintelligence.com/email > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ______________________________________________ > > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

    04/20/2011 07:14:29