Since posting on the list a little while ago I've received much support and information from Anne about the Clarkes and Liane about the MacCormacs. Now another bit of advice is needed and hopefully someone will tell me how best to proceed. To verify some of the information it would be useful to have Ada's birth certificate. Census records suggest a birth in 1884 in either Manchester or Salford but the Freeb/m/d show a birth in Dec Qt 1882 in Manchester and another in 1886 in Salford.I think the earlier one is most likely. Obviously to cut down on expense it would be helpful to know if one was ordering the right one. What is best? To apply to Manchester specifying the father must be Joseph or can this be done through the GRO ? Once the mother can be established it should confirm that the info. so far is correct or otherwise. Thank you all for your help and patience. Best wishes, Mary