Jim, Firstly someone else has decipherd Fredge Street as Foedge Street, and found this street name in connection with someone else on googling. My apologies for not coming back to you sooner but wanted to be able to explain myself better. I tend to forget that others do not know the information that I have, so will explain. You mentioned certificates I should have. Do not have the marriage cert of Bernard Blessington and Winefred Conry as this took place in Ireland but some children of theirs are baptised in the Catholic Church in Roscommon. Have the birth and death certificate of Bernard junior, the birth at 3 Foedge St, the death at 4 Foedge Street, Deansgate, Manchester. Have not found the death of Bernard senior. Bernard junior was born August 1847, Bernard senior was the informer. Winny (she is listed on death certificate) the wife and mother died early September, 1847 again Bernard is the informer of her death. She died on Union Street, Oldham but no actual address and Union Street and it is a long street. Bernard junior died in November 1847 and on this certificate it states Bernard Blessington deceased and Terence Blessington was the informer. Have not found this person again or Bernard's senior death. I checked the Oldham burial records today but did not find any of the Blessington family Can anyone suggest anything else I can do to find more on the family please. Best Wishes Patricia From: "lancaster.jim" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [LAN] Catholic Church Oldham > > Hi, Patricia, > > You are asking about Fredge Street, and many people have tried to find it. > > I am a bit confused about what records you have. You mention five events > that should have matching certificates, The marriage of Bernard (I) and > Winifred, the birth of Bernard (II), the death of Winifred, the death of > Bernard (II), and the death of Bernard (I). If Bernard (I) and Winifred > were recent arrivals in England, their marriage might have been in Ireland > as the Famine migration was very strong at this time. You seem to have > some > detailed information about the birth and death of Bernard (II) and of his > mother, suggesting that you have certificates. Bernard (I) is said to > have > died, but you have not found a record of his death. At this time the law > stated that all deaths must be registered, but it placed the onus on the > Registrar to find the deaths. The Catholic Family History Society has > published an index to St Patrick's Burial Registers (Livsey Street) and > there seems to be a significant number of burials that do not appear in > the > GRO Index - suggesting under-registration. > > I think you said you had a certificate for the child bearing the 'Fredge > Street' address. Have you seen the original entry, possibly as a > photocopy?? Or are you quoting from a handwritten certified copy?? > Whichever it is, which Register Office provided it? If you obtained it > from > the GRO it will be a copy of a copy of a ... and it could be worth asking > the Manchester Register Office to check the details against their original > register (send the certificate and ask for its return), explaining that > searches by many people has not found the address and you wonder if there > is > a problem with the certificate you have obtained.. > > The Catholic Church in Oldham at this time was St Mary, but if it had a > burial ground there are no surviving records. Likewise there are no > surviving burial records for St Mary Mulberry Street, Manchester (just off > Deansgate and the nearest Catholic chapel) and there is no record of any > of > these three persons in St Patrick's Burial register. Hope this helps Jim Lancaster (Bury, Lancs.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia white" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 7:51 PM Subject: [LAN] Catholic Church Oldham >