Dear Nick, Just happen to have noticed some Rhodes around Rochdale, on the OPC website. May not be anything.... Baptisms: 26 Jul 1812 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England William Rhodes - Son of Thomas Rhodes & Sarh. Abode: Cheetham St. Occupation: Engineer <<<<<<< ++++ Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 9, Entry 26 Source: LDS Film 1545791 There are others that are also on the OPC, although an Engineer could be anyone with a spanner in his hand? Baptisms: 28 Apr 1814 St James, Milnrow, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Rhodes - Dau. of Edmund Rhodes & Prudence <<< Lots of Kids Abode: Longdenend Occupation: Engineer Baptised by: John Rutter Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1834 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 18, Entry 140 Source: LDS Film 506448 Marriage: 30 Oct 1831 St Leonard, Middleton, Lancashire, England James Garland - (X), Engineer of this Parish Betty Rhodes - (X), Spinster of this Parish <<< Daughter Perhaps? Witness: Edmund Collinge; Richd. Kenyon Married by Banns with consent of parents by: J. R. Redhead Curate Register: Marriages 1830 - 1834, Page 116, Entry 346 Source: LDS Film 1545702 etc... Best Wishes, Peter in Sydney On 13 January 2013 05:21, nicholas wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > The subject was my 3x great grandmother and was married to William Rhodes, > a West Riding millwright/carpenter and canal builder at Saint Leonard's > Church, Middleton in 1804. Her parents were Samuel Barton, b.1768 and Ann > Wrigley,and they were married in.1789, and her paternal grandparents were > Samuel Barton and Mary Guest who married, probably in Manchester, in 1763. > As far as I know all the Barton children were christened in Manchester > Cathedral > > Nancy's brother in law, Thomas Rhodes, a civil engineer, married a Lucy > Barton, b.1793, in Liverpool in 1814, but I do not known for sure if the > two women were related prior to their marriages. > > Any information other listers can share with me will be greatly appreciated > > Thanks, > > Nick >

Evening Nick, I have had a little look for you, I traced Lucy Barton she was christened Manchester Cathedral to a Samuel and Ann, so it does look like Nancy and Lucy could be sisters from the info you gave on Nancy's parents, although i cannot find a christening for Nancy, nor a marriage??? Nancy Barton is the one you stated married William, your 3x great grandparents? i'm just checking i have it right. There were a few siblings for Lucy George 1796 Alice 1798 Esther 1800 James 1804 Thomas 1806 All above apart from Lucy the abode states Prescot, and father Samuel was a Joiner. I found Thomas and Lucy Rhodes living in the Channel Islands in the 1851 and 1861, and Thomas is an Engineer. Their marriage is 19 Feb 1815, Saint Nicholas, Liverpool. I found the marriage of the grandparents Samuel and Mary Guest, it was Manchester Cathedral 21st December 1763. All the best, Louise Wortley On 12 Jan 2013, at 18:21, nicholas wilson wrote: > Hello, > > The subject was my 3x great grandmother and was married to William Rhodes, > a West Riding millwright/carpenter and canal builder at Saint Leonard's > Church, Middleton in 1804. Her parents were Samuel Barton, b.1768 and Ann > Wrigley,and they were married in.1789, and her paternal grandparents were > Samuel Barton and Mary Guest who married, probably in Manchester, in 1763. > As far as I know all the Barton children were christened in Manchester > Cathedral > > Nancy's brother in law, Thomas Rhodes, a civil engineer, married a Lucy > Barton, b.1793, in Liverpool in 1814, but I do not known for sure if the > two women were related prior to their marriages. > > Any information other listers can share with me will be greatly appreciated > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in 1804. I believe she was the daughter of Samuel Barton and > > Nancy's brother in law, Thomas Rhodes, a civil engineer was to marry a Lucy > Barton in Liverpool in 1814 but I have not as yet been able to link the two > women. > > If any lister has information of this branch of the Barton family please > let me know > > Thanks, > > Nick > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Many thanks to you Anne and Peter too for all your help. It is really appreciated. I have forwarded your emails to my friend and now await her instructions for any further assistance. kind regards Elizabeth -----Original Message----- From: anne walsh Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 7:36 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Kershaw-Dodd families Hi Elizabeth, Lancashire bmd has a death 1839 Manchester --Michael Dodd age 36, and familysearch,has 2 entries for the marriage of Michael Dodd to Isabella Mordale also Isabella Mordah---which could be a Mancunian attempt at Murdo/Murdoch,--- HTH,Anne On 13 January 2013 03:55, Elizabeth Kraus <greliz7@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi everyone > Just wondering you could help me with a friend’s family from Rochdale > please. > Benjamin Kershaw bc1799 Rochdale married Ann (?) bc1801 Rochdale sometime > early 1820s. > Children Samuel bc1824, Joshua c1824/1823, Sarah bc1826, Thomas bc1828, > William bc1831, James bc1833, Mary bc1837, Susanna bc1840 – based on 1841 > census record. > By 1851 Benjamin and Ann were living with only Joshua, Sarah, William, > James and Mary. By 1861 it appears that Ann must have died and Benjamin > was > at home with his children William and Sarah. > The son James married September 1853 Elizabeth Maria Dodd (daughter of > Michael Dodd and Isabelle Mordale) who emigrated to Australia in 1854 > aboard the ‘David McIvor’ with 2 children – Mary and Thomas bc1852-1854. > > Michael Dodd married Isabelle Mordale in June 1828 at Manchester > Cathedral. Known children – Mary Anne bc1829, Elizabeth Maria bc1831, > William bc1833, John bc1835, Mary Anne bc1837. > It is believed that the family originated from Sligo, Ireland as Elizabeth > may have been born there. Perhaps after marriage Michael returned to > Ireland or was sent there for work?. > I have not been able to find the family on 1841 English census. > Any suggestions much appreciated. > kind regards > Elizabeth from Sunny Australia > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Louise, I would call that a pretty big look. Many thanks for your help. My great, great grandfather Thomas Wilson, married into the Rhodes family twice firstly to a daughter of William and Nancy and when she died to a daughter of William's brother, James and Wermyss. The first was Mary and the second was Barbara. Between them they gave him five sons and a daughter who was born just days before he died (in India). My information on the Bartons has always been very skimpy and came from a distant Canadian Rhodes cousin. He gave me a brief handwritten tree scribbled on the back of a piece of company letterhead and NOW on re-reading it more closely it seems that Nancy was probably the daughter of a brother of Samuel's, name unknown, OR even a child of Samuel Barton and Ann Wrigley, maybe the last of the litter, and so an aunt of Lucy's. Is there any way you can check this for me through the cathedral records? I would be most grateful if you could. Nancy married William under licence in 1804 which probably meant she was under the age of consent, which is why I gave her a birthdate of 1785, i.e aged 19, but she could have been younger. Again thanks for your help Nick ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Wortley" <wortleylouise@gmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 4:07 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] NANCY RHODES nee BARTON, born in Manchester, c.1785 > Evening Nick, > > I have had a little look for you, > > I traced Lucy Barton she was christened Manchester Cathedral to a Samuel > and Ann, so it does look like Nancy and Lucy could be sisters from the > info you gave on Nancy's parents, although i cannot find a christening for > Nancy, nor a marriage??? Nancy Barton is the one you stated married > William, your 3x great grandparents? i'm just checking i have it right. > > There were a few siblings for Lucy > > George 1796 > Alice 1798 > Esther 1800 > James 1804 > Thomas 1806 > > All above apart from Lucy the abode states Prescot, and father Samuel was > a Joiner. > > I found Thomas and Lucy Rhodes living in the Channel Islands in the 1851 > and 1861, and Thomas is an Engineer. Their marriage is 19 Feb 1815, Saint > Nicholas, Liverpool. > > I found the marriage of the grandparents Samuel and Mary Guest, it was > Manchester Cathedral 21st December 1763. > > All the best, > > Louise Wortley > >

Hi Elizabeth, Looking at Rochdale (only)... Nothing that gives close correlation on the Lancashire OPC Site: www.lan-opc.org.uk ,,(in particular with Benj. and Ann) but would recommend a look there... I didnt look at the census forthe general Rochdale district, but the folllowing may assist??? On the www.lancashirebmd.org.uk website, 80+% of Births 1837-1842 list the Mothers Maiden name.... so... Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1840-42 ( SurnameForename(s)Sub-DistrictRegisters AtMother's [Maiden Name] Reference 1840 KERSHAWSusannaBlatchinworth and CalderbrookRochdale [CROSSLEY] BC/2/114 1840 KERSHAWSusannahHeywoodRochdale [CROMPTON] H/4/275 1841 KERSHAWSusannaBlatchinworth and CalderbrookRochdale [LAW] BC/2/186 1841 KERSHAWSusannahWardleworthRochdale [KERSHAW] W/4/296 Best Wishes, Peter in Sydney On 13 January 2013 14:55, Elizabeth Kraus <greliz7@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone > Just wondering you could help me with a friend’s family from Rochdale please. > Benjamin Kershaw bc1799 Rochdale married Ann (?) bc1801 Rochdale sometime early 1820s. > Children Samuel bc1824, Joshua c1824/1823, Sarah bc1826, Thomas bc1828, William bc1831, James bc1833, Mary bc1837, Susanna bc1840 – based on 1841 census record. > By 1851 Benjamin and Ann were living with only Joshua, Sarah, William, James and Mary. By 1861 it appears that Ann must have died and Benjamin was at home with his children William and Sarah. > The son James married September 1853 Elizabeth Maria Dodd (daughter of Michael Dodd and Isabelle Mordale) who emigrated to Australia in 1854 aboard the ‘David McIvor’ with 2 children – Mary and Thomas bc1852-1854. > > Michael Dodd married Isabelle Mordale in June 1828 at Manchester Cathedral. Known children – Mary Anne bc1829, Elizabeth Maria bc1831, William bc1833, John bc1835, Mary Anne bc1837. > It is believed that the family originated from Sligo, Ireland as Elizabeth may have been born there. Perhaps after marriage Michael returned to Ireland or was sent there for work?. > I have not been able to find the family on 1841 English census. > Any suggestions much appreciated. > kind regards > Elizabeth from Sunny Australia > >

Peter, I appreciate the time you have taken to help me but unfortunately none of the names you have dug up for me seems to be connected with my Rhodes branch. It seems William was only in Lancashire so long as there was canal building work there for him. His brother, Thomas's time in Liverpool was connected with work he was doing in Ireland rather then Lancashire Thanks & best wishes, Nick On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Peter B <thefamilybutterworth@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear Nick, > > Just happen to have noticed some Rhodes around Rochdale, on the OPC > website. > > May not be anything.... > > Baptisms: 26 Jul 1812 St Chad, Rochdale, Lancashire, England > William Rhodes - Son of Thomas Rhodes & Sarh. > Abode: Cheetham St. > Occupation: Engineer <<<<<<< ++++ > Register: Baptisms 1812, Page 9, Entry 26 > Source: LDS Film 1545791 > > There are others that are also on the OPC, although an Engineer could > be anyone with a spanner in his hand? > > Baptisms: 28 Apr 1814 St James, Milnrow, Lancashire, England > Elizabeth Rhodes - Dau. of Edmund Rhodes & Prudence <<< Lots of Kids > Abode: Longdenend > Occupation: Engineer > Baptised by: John Rutter > Register: Baptisms 1813 - 1834 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page > 18, Entry 140 > Source: LDS Film 506448 > > Marriage: 30 Oct 1831 St Leonard, Middleton, Lancashire, England > James Garland - (X), Engineer of this Parish > Betty Rhodes - (X), Spinster of this Parish <<< Daughter Perhaps? > Witness: Edmund Collinge; Richd. Kenyon > Married by Banns with consent of parents by: J. R. Redhead Curate > Register: Marriages 1830 - 1834, Page 116, Entry 346 > Source: LDS Film 1545702 > > etc... > > Best Wishes, > > Peter > in Sydney > > On 13 January 2013 05:21, nicholas wilson <wilsonnicholas90@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Hello, > > > > The subject was my 3x great grandmother and was married to William > Rhodes, > > a West Riding millwright/carpenter and canal builder at Saint Leonard's > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

News from Ian Hartas of UKBMD (http://www.UKBMD.org.uk)- "Hi, Each of the Local BMD sites that uses the UKBMD software has been updated to add a new features to the Deaths indexes search. "This new optional feature gives you the opportunity to specify either a year of birth, or the age at death for the person you are seeking. "For example, on the Yorkshire BMD site if you were to select a range of years, 1837-1850, enter a name of Smith, select Hull as the region and finally enter 1820 as the year of birth the results would show all possible matches, based on the year of death and the age at death, plus or minus one year. This may help locate a death index entry when you know their year of birth, but do not know when they died. "Alternatively, if you enter a figure of less than 4 digits it assumes that you're asking for a match on the age, so the search will match the age plus or minus one year. "Many entries have not been indexed with their age at death and so a "-" will be shown. These will always appear as possible matches in the search results. The age at death in these cases may not be a correct match. "http://www.UKBMD.org.uk/localbmd/ "Note: Cumbria and West Midlands do not have age at death indexed, so this option does not appear on their search screens." Happy searching! Lynne

Hello and happy new year to everyone. Additions from our friends at Lancashire BMD: 20 December 2012 Added 6,819 Births for North Sefton RD comprising: Formby (1881-1885); North Meols (1880-1885) Added 9,806 Births for Salford RD comprising: Barton on Irwell (1904-1904); Broughton (1904-1904); Salford Greengate (1904-1904); Pendleton (1904-1904); Salford Regent Road (1904-1904); Worsley (1904-1904) Added 6,110 Marriages for Manchester RD comprising: Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended (1947-1949 ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire BMD has also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

________________________________ Hello Listers This is my first time posting in the Manchester Board, I didnt know there was a difference between Manchester and Liverpool. Im trying to locate possible burial place of my ancestors and there Children. They all came from Ireland to Manchester before the 1851 census They first appeared on the 1851 Census For St Helen,Windle,Lancashire living at: 159 Guards Bridge, There was a family in the same address not sure if they could be related to my family below there household Household consisted of: John Scollan Age 54 Born Ireland Margaret age 40 James age 19 Rose A age 17 Thomas age 15 Charles age 13 Jane age 11 Margaret age 7 There children were all Married in Manchester 1861 Census shows there living at Bradford,Manchester,England Christ Church 1871 Census shows Ardwick,Manchester Living at Hyde Road What cemetery do you think the Family used for burials? They were Catholic too since they were from Ireland Any information appreciated Anthony

Hi Elizabeth, Lancashire bmd has a death 1839 Manchester --Michael Dodd age 36, and familysearch,has 2 entries for the marriage of Michael Dodd to Isabella Mordale also Isabella Mordah---which could be a Mancunian attempt at Murdo/Murdoch,--- HTH,Anne On 13 January 2013 03:55, Elizabeth Kraus <greliz7@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi everyone > Just wondering you could help me with a friend’s family from Rochdale > please. > Benjamin Kershaw bc1799 Rochdale married Ann (?) bc1801 Rochdale sometime > early 1820s. > Children Samuel bc1824, Joshua c1824/1823, Sarah bc1826, Thomas bc1828, > William bc1831, James bc1833, Mary bc1837, Susanna bc1840 – based on 1841 > census record. > By 1851 Benjamin and Ann were living with only Joshua, Sarah, William, > James and Mary. By 1861 it appears that Ann must have died and Benjamin was > at home with his children William and Sarah. > The son James married September 1853 Elizabeth Maria Dodd (daughter of > Michael Dodd and Isabelle Mordale) who emigrated to Australia in 1854 > aboard the ‘David McIvor’ with 2 children – Mary and Thomas bc1852-1854. > > Michael Dodd married Isabelle Mordale in June 1828 at Manchester > Cathedral. Known children – Mary Anne bc1829, Elizabeth Maria bc1831, > William bc1833, John bc1835, Mary Anne bc1837. > It is believed that the family originated from Sligo, Ireland as Elizabeth > may have been born there. Perhaps after marriage Michael returned to > Ireland or was sent there for work?. > I have not been able to find the family on 1841 English census. > Any suggestions much appreciated. > kind regards > Elizabeth from Sunny Australia > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Elizabeth, don't know if these are any help..... Lancashire OPC ( www.lan-opc.org.uk) has a Marriage at St Chad's Rochdale Benjamin Kershaw a weaver and Ann Crossley 17th June 1822. 1841 Census Back Holgate Street Manchester has an Isabela Dodd <35 a weaver looks like b Ireland, William,7 John 6 Mary 4 all b Lancashire. 1851 15 Back Holgate Street has Charles Murray 50 b Ireland wife Isabella 44,b Scotland they have young children but also stepson William Dodd, Lancashire bmd has a marriage 1843 at Manchester Cathedral Charles Murray and Isabella Dodd probable maiden name MURDOCH--? not Mordale. HTH Anne, in snowy England.... On 13 January 2013 03:55, Elizabeth Kraus <greliz7@bigpond.com> wrote: > Hi everyone > Just wondering you could help me with a friend’s family from Rochdale > please. > Benjamin Kershaw bc1799 Rochdale married Ann (?) bc1801 Rochdale sometime > early 1820s. > Children Samuel bc1824, Joshua c1824/1823, Sarah bc1826, Thomas bc1828, > William bc1831, James bc1833, Mary bc1837, Susanna bc1840 – based on 1841 > census record. > By 1851 Benjamin and Ann were living with only Joshua, Sarah, William, > James and Mary. By 1861 it appears that Ann must have died and Benjamin was > at home with his children William and Sarah. > The son James married September 1853 Elizabeth Maria Dodd (daughter of > Michael Dodd and Isabelle Mordale) who emigrated to Australia in 1854 > aboard the ‘David McIvor’ with 2 children – Mary and Thomas bc1852-1854. > > Michael Dodd married Isabelle Mordale in June 1828 at Manchester > Cathedral. Known children – Mary Anne bc1829, Elizabeth Maria bc1831, > William bc1833, John bc1835, Mary Anne bc1837. > It is believed that the family originated from Sligo, Ireland as Elizabeth > may have been born there. Perhaps after marriage Michael returned to > Ireland or was sent there for work?. > I have not been able to find the family on 1841 English census. > Any suggestions much appreciated. > kind regards > Elizabeth from Sunny Australia > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi everyone Just wondering you could help me with a friend’s family from Rochdale please. Benjamin Kershaw bc1799 Rochdale married Ann (?) bc1801 Rochdale sometime early 1820s. Children Samuel bc1824, Joshua c1824/1823, Sarah bc1826, Thomas bc1828, William bc1831, James bc1833, Mary bc1837, Susanna bc1840 – based on 1841 census record. By 1851 Benjamin and Ann were living with only Joshua, Sarah, William, James and Mary. By 1861 it appears that Ann must have died and Benjamin was at home with his children William and Sarah. The son James married September 1853 Elizabeth Maria Dodd (daughter of Michael Dodd and Isabelle Mordale) who emigrated to Australia in 1854 aboard the ‘David McIvor’ with 2 children – Mary and Thomas bc1852-1854. Michael Dodd married Isabelle Mordale in June 1828 at Manchester Cathedral. Known children – Mary Anne bc1829, Elizabeth Maria bc1831, William bc1833, John bc1835, Mary Anne bc1837. It is believed that the family originated from Sligo, Ireland as Elizabeth may have been born there. Perhaps after marriage Michael returned to Ireland or was sent there for work?. I have not been able to find the family on 1841 English census. Any suggestions much appreciated. kind regards Elizabeth from Sunny Australia

Hello, The subject was my 3x great grandmother and was married to William Rhodes, a West Riding millwright/carpenter and canal builder at Saint Leonard's Church, Middleton in 1804. Her parents were Samuel Barton, b.1768 and Ann Wrigley,and they were married in.1789, and her paternal grandparents were Samuel Barton and Mary Guest who married, probably in Manchester, in 1763. As far as I know all the Barton children were christened in Manchester Cathedral Nancy's brother in law, Thomas Rhodes, a civil engineer, married a Lucy Barton, b.1793, in Liverpool in 1814, but I do not known for sure if the two women were related prior to their marriages. Any information other listers can share with me will be greatly appreciated Thanks, Nick in 1804. I believe she was the daughter of Samuel Barton and Nancy's brother in law, Thomas Rhodes, a civil engineer was to marry a Lucy Barton in Liverpool in 1814 but I have not as yet been able to link the two women. If any lister has information of this branch of the Barton family please let me know Thanks, Nick

Sally, Thank you for all your support but as my particular interest in the Chester/Manchester area has been resolved through the assistance of your members, I must reluctantly withdraw from your excellent service. With best wishes, Trevor Armstrong Email: trevorarmstrong@iinet.net.au 2/28 Black Street Brighton Vic 3186 Australia Tel: +61 3 9593 2829 On 10/01/2013, at 7:41 PM, sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> wrote: > Morning all, > > This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html > > 9 January 2013 > > Banns 1869 to 1892 and Marriages 1896 to 1906 from the Church of St Augustine, Everton > > Baptisms 1895 to 1912 from the Parish of Hurst > > Marriages 1786 from the Collegiate Church, in the City of Manchester > > Marriages 1851 to 1852 from the Church of St Mary in the City of Manchester > > Baptisms 1823 to 1831 from All Saints, in the District of Newton Heath, Manchester > > Regards, > Sally > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Trevor Armstrong Email: trevorarmstrong@iinet.net.au 2/28 Black Street Brighton Vic 3186 Australia Tel: +61 3 9593 2829

Morning all, This morning's visit to the OPC website found the following records have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 9 January 2013 Banns 1869 to 1892 and Marriages 1896 to 1906 from the Church of St Augustine, Everton Baptisms 1895 to 1912 from the Parish of Hurst Marriages 1786 from the Collegiate Church, in the City of Manchester Marriages 1851 to 1852 from the Church of St Mary in the City of Manchester Baptisms 1823 to 1831 from All Saints, in the District of Newton Heath, Manchester Regards, Sally

Hi Mike, The address I sent you was: [1]http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=4 48&documentID=464 From the copy in your reply it looks as though that URL has been split by the email processing so I've generated a short version for you to try: [2]http://alturl.com/vmvv2 That should get you to the list of all the church register records held by the Manchester Archives. The list is in alphabetical parish name groups and you need to look through them carefully as sometimes the parish names might differ from what you are expecting. The list does not give any details about the content of the register, just the parish names and date ranges. It should help you to see whether there's a chance that you might find the details you seek on the new Ancestry information culled from the Manchester holdings. To find the owner of a grave, or the other occupants of the grave you will need to get access to the grave register rather than the burial register as the latter records only the individual church burial service. Grave registers are fairly scare, unfortunately, as many are still held by the churches for their own use and quite a few seem to have disappeared altogether. Still, you never know your luck. Regards, Bob On 09/01/2013 15:44, Mike Morris wrote: Thank you Bob, sorry to admit I could not locate how to use this site. I was trying to locate the name Parsonage buried in Rusholme cemetery in the early 1800's. I know ther e are the names Collins in the same grave as a Samuel Parsonage. But wondered w ho else was in this grave such as Samuels wife Mary nee Mattley. I wondered if Mary's parents (Mattley) owned the grave. Kind regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ________________________________ From: Bob Thornley [3]<bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> To: [4]eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 3:09:04 PM The web version of the "Pink Book" is here: [1][5]http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryI D=4 48&documentID=464 <snip> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6]ENG-MANCHESTER-request @rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=448&documentID=464 2. http://alturl.com/vmvv2 3. mailto:bob@thornleysystems.co.uk 4. mailto:eng-manchester@rootsweb.com 5. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=4 6. mailto:ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com

Thank you again Bob,  I sure appreciate the assistance. All my best  Mike Morris  Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Bob Thornley <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> >To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 11:17:32 AM > > >  The address I sent you was: >  [1]http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=4 >  48&documentID=464 >  From the copy in your reply it looks as though that URL has been split by >  the email processing so I've generated a short version for you to try: >  [2]http://alturl.com/vmvv2 >  That should get you to the list of all the church register records held by >  the Manchester Archives. <snip> >   >

Thank you Bob,  sorry to admit I could not locate how to use this site. I was trying to locate the name Parsonage buried in Rusholme cemetery in the early 1800's. I know there are the names Collins in the same grave as a Samuel Parsonage. But wondered who else was in this grave such as Samuels wife Mary nee Mattley. I wondered if Mary's parents  (Mattley) owned the grave.  Kind regards  Mike Morris  Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Bob Thornley <bob@thornleysystems.co.uk> >To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com >Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2013 3:09:04 PM > > >  The web version of the "Pink Book" is here: >  [1]http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?categoryID=4   48&documentID=464 <snip> > >

Hi Louise, This is where the patience bit comes in, Louise :o) Whilst the OPC has a vast amount of information on it (6,500,704 records to be precise), it is by no means complete and you're presuming that all records for Ashton Under Lyne have been transcribed. If you check the list of registers available per church, you will find the following: Registers for the Parish of Ashton under Lyne St Michael and All Angels Marriages 1720 - 1754 1198 Records Marriages 1754 - 1778 1554 Records Marriages 1802 - 1805 371 Records Marriages 1805 - 1812 707 Records Marriages 1813 - 1821 900 Records Marriages 1821 - 1827 899 Records Marriages 1827 - 1832 899 Records Marriages 1832 - 1836 900 Records Marriages 1836 - 1837 117 Records Marriages 1837 - 1839 500 Records Marriages 1839 - 1842 500 Records Marriages 1842 - 1844 446 Records Burials 1892 - 1908 2444 Records Burials 1908 - 1964 1212 Records St James Baptisms 1863 - 1868 349 Records Baptisms 1898 - 1908 1604 Records St Peter Marriages 1891 - 1897 500 Records Marriages 1897 - 1902 499 Records Marriages 1902 - 1908 499 Records Marriages 1908 - 1915 500 Records Marriages 1915 - 1917 220 Records Burials 1825 - 1839 1584 Records Burials 1839 - 1844 1592 Records Burials 1853 - 1858 3200 Records Burials 1881 - 1890 800 Records St Ann Baptisms 1933 - 1935 106 Records Stamford St Methodist New Connexion Marriages 1896 - 1920 364 Records Marriages 1921 - 1933 98 Records Stamford St Wesleyan Methodist Baptisms 1881 - 1907 398 Records Marriages 1899 - 1903 50 Records Marriages 1903 - 1908 50 Records Marriages 1908 - 1912 50 Records Marriages 1912 - 1915 50 Records Marriages 1915 - 1919 50 Records Marriages 1919 - 1923 50 Records It might be worth your while to either travel to the records office and check for yourself (http://www.lancashire.gov.uk/corporate/web/?siteid=4528&pageid=30539&e=e), or if that isn't feasible, you could order the microfiche from the LDS and research it that way. In the meantime, it might be worth your while to look outside of Ashton under Lyne, as sometimes not all christenings are carried out in the one place. This link via the Genuki website will help you find a list of places within a 5 miles radius - http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/places?LAN,SJ938991,5,Ashton%20under%20Lyne I post round regular updates of records that are added to the OPC website, so keep your eyes peeled. (You can also volunteer your services as a Transcriber for the project if you have enough time available to you to be able to do so. If those registers that you're interested in are up for grabs, then you get to do your own research at the same time :o) ) Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: wortleylouise@gmail.com > Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2013 14:19:53 +0000 > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Taylors of Droylsden > > Hi Sally, > > I have looked on the OPC but no Christenings for Taylor in all of Ashton around 1811 give or take 20 for Johns siblings, then around 1838 give or take 2 for Roberts siblings which may have died. I found a couple of burials for children to a John around 1838, not even my Robert was listed. but as there were no mothers name, i cannot say they are mine. > > I have used the website before to search my Hargreaves relatives who are also in Lancs and found 0 results. I know the website is useful for some, but i have always had a 0 result. > > Regards > > Louise

Hi Sally, I have looked on the OPC but no Christenings for Taylor in all of Ashton around 1811 give or take 20 for Johns siblings, then around 1838 give or take 2 for Roberts siblings which may have died. I found a couple of burials for children to a John around 1838, not even my Robert was listed. but as there were no mothers name, i cannot say they are mine. I have used the website before to search my Hargreaves relatives who are also in Lancs and found 0 results. I know the website is useful for some, but i have always had a 0 result. Regards Louise On 8 Jan 2013, at 11:57, sally roberts wrote: > Hello Louise, > > That's the beauty/agony of genealogy, I'm afraid :O) > > You can look for naming patterns in children to help narrow down the suspects. > > Sometimes transcriptions of the records will include witness names that might be family members as opposed to 'official' witnesses. > > Transcriptions may also include an indication of parishes that people came from or a residential area. I have been able to group families in this way via the OPC records. > > Notes on occupations may also be a way of grouping a family, although this isn't a totally reliable way of doing things, but if the occupation is distinctive enough it does help. > > You may also have to prepare yourself for the worst case scenario, which is that you may always be left wondering. I have a few of those myself :O) > > Regards, > Sally > > > > >> Hi Sally, >> >> I have no info for Joshua, it all depends on if John was the youngest or eldest sibling, so between 1820 to 1850. >> >> I wasn't understandng what you meant about how i determine which is my John born abt 1811? There are a few that are possibilities, but how would i know which is mine if all seem to be christened at the same place St Michaels Ashton Under Lyne, would the christening record state which were actually born Droylsden? otherwise how would i know? His marriage was 1832 so no parents listed. >> >> Regards >> >> Louise >> >> >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message