At 02:34 PM 3/06/2013, Sandy wrote: >I wonder if anyone has access to the baptism registers. I am looking for >Thomas Bamber baptised in 1829. His fathers name was Thomas Bamber and his >mothers maiden name was Tootell/Tootall/Tootle. Thank you Hi Sandy Having some Bamber folk in my genealogy tree I was interested in this. No doubt this is the marriage you are looking for - can't see a baptism 1829 though. From Lancashire OPC records. Marriage: 17 Feb 1817 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England Thomas Bamber - Bachelor, Chorley Ann Tootell - Spinster, Chorley Witness: John Tootell; Ann Woods Married by Banns by: Richard Hodgson, Officiating Minister Register: Marriages 1813 - 1827, Page 75, Entry 223 Source: LDS Film 93705 However, there is a baptism in 1835, perhaps of interest. Baptism: 20 Mar 1835 St Chad, Poulton-le-Fylde, Lancashire, England Thomas Bamber - Son of Thomas Bamber & Anne Abode: Poulton Occupation: Shoemaker Baptised by: R. Bowness Source: LDS Film 1517688 There is a Thomas Bamber, a Port Dealer (people often changed their occupations) born circa 1830, shown in the 1841 census at Fishergate, Preston (where my Bambers came from) with a father Thomas and mother Ann. May be of interest to you. Do you have idea if your Thomas had any siblings? So far I don't have a Thomas in my family. Best wishes Graham Melbourne Oz

I wonder if anyone has access to the baptism registers. I am looking for Thomas Bamber baptised in 1829. His fathers name was Thomas Bamber and his mothers maiden name was Tootell/Tootall/Tootle. Thank you Regards Sandy Australia

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HI Jan The problem was with Ancestry they admitted the problem on Thursday it took till yesterday before I could get access, so fingers crossed it keeps working:) Have a good day , Julie x On 21/05/2013 22:23, geejay wrote: > Hi Julie, > Have you tried simply right click and 'refresh'? It works for me on other > sites when there's a problem with the image coming up. > Yours in Genealogy, > Jan, > in sunny QLD, Australia > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lynda's Lot" <lydige@gmail.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > >> On 17 May 2013 19:25, juliecooper <juliecooper@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >>> When you actually click on the image I get a "Oops! There's a >>> problempage" is anyone else having this problem? I phoned on Wednesday >>> and she was putting in a "report" though nothing has happened. I am >>> getting more and more frustrated with them. >>> >>> Thanks for your help >>> Julie x >>> > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have lost track of who originally posted this query, but I think there might be a connection here with some of my ancestors. I have a Catherine Murray (b 1839) who married a man called Kearney. This won't be the same Catherine Kearney who married your William Henry because the age is 10 years out, however, Catherine's sister Susan and her family lived at 16 Pollard Street in 1869, and they actually lived at 20 Pollard Street in 1901. Susan's son's future wife and his family lived in the house in between - 18 Pollard Street. It would seem unlikely that two unconnected families of Kearney lived in the same house 20 years apart, so I would like to keep in touch and see if we can share any research on this family. Best regards Joanne Jan 17th 1849 - Parish Church of Manchester. William Henry. Age 21. Bachelor. Occupation: Striker. (of) 20 Pollard Street. Father: William Henry, occupation: Tailor Catharine Kearnery. Age 20. Spinster. No occupation. (of) 98 Pollard Street. Father: Luke Kearney, occupation: Weaver Witnesses: (the mark of) Jane Brookes and John Brookes. :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. Please SNIP when replying. Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Julie, Have you tried simply right click and 'refresh'? It works for me on other sites when there's a problem with the image coming up. Yours in Genealogy, Jan, in sunny QLD, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda's Lot" <lydige@gmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > On 17 May 2013 19:25, juliecooper <juliecooper@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> When you actually click on the image I get a "Oops! There's a >> problempage" is anyone else having this problem? I phoned on Wednesday >> and she was putting in a "report" though nothing has happened. I am >> getting more and more frustrated with them. >> >> Thanks for your help >> Julie x >>

Hi Ghyll, I noticed that the Manchester images on Ancestry were working again, so I have gone back to see if I could find any more information on the marriage of William Henry and Catharine Kearney.... Jan 17th 1849 - Parish Church of Manchester. William Henry. Age 21. Bachelor. Occupation: Striker. (of) 20 Pollard Street. Father: William Henry, occupation: Tailor Catharine Kearnery. Age 20. Spinster. No occupation. (of) 98 Pollard Street. Father: Luke Kearney, occupation: Weaver Witnesses: (the mark of) Jane Brookes and John Brookes. Hope this helps! Regards, Sally > > And as a P.S. to Ghyll, there is also this entry on Ancestry for a marriage: > > Name: William Henry > Age: 21 > Birth Year: abt 1828 > Marriage Date: 17 Jan 1849 > Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George > Father's Name: William Henry > Spouse's Name: Catharine Kearney > Spouse's Age: 20 > Spouse's Father's Name: Luke Kearney > Archive Roll: 716 > > > Sadly the site isn't allowing for a view of the original certificate so I can't confirm any occupation, but it might be something to keep on the back burner.... >

Yes, I have, several times. Very, very frustrating, especially as I'm paying to see these images. I messaged them with a copy of each non-working link but there's been so many I've just given up :( On 17 May 2013 19:25, juliecooper <juliecooper@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hi since Wednesday I have been having problems accessing the Lancashire, > Manchester Parish records especially the Cathedral. > > When you actually click on the image I get a "Oops! There's a > problempage" is anyone else having this problem? I phoned on Wednesday > and she was putting in a "report" though nothing has happened. I am > getting more and more frustrated with them. > > Thanks for your help > Julie x > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have just checked on Ancestry and the images that where missing seem to be available at the moment I won't hold my breath just in case they disappear again, or not all are available, thought I would let you know:) Have a good day Julie x > Yes, I have, several times. Very, very frustrating, especially as I'm > paying to see these images. I messaged them with a copy of each > non-working link but there's been so many I've just given up :( > > > On 17 May 2013 19:25, juliecooper <juliecooper@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Hi since Wednesday I have been having problems accessing the Lancashire, >> Manchester Parish records especially the Cathedral. >> >> When you actually click on the image I get a "Oops! There's a >> problempage" is anyone else having this problem? I phoned on Wednesday >> and she was putting in a "report" though nothing has happened. I am >> getting more and more frustrated with them. >> >> Thanks for your help >> Julie x >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. >> >> Please SNIP when replying. >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > . >

I am having difficulty on several sites. Have you upgraded to Internet Explorer 10? That seems to be the cause for me on Scotland's People and Griffiths Valuation. Janet Sent from my iPhone On May 20, 2013, at 9:09 PM, "Lynda's Lot" <lydige@gmail.com> wrote: > Yes, I have, several times. Very, very frustrating, especially as I'm > paying to see these images. I messaged them with a copy of each > non-working link but there's been so many I've just given up :( > > > On 17 May 2013 19:25, juliecooper <juliecooper@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Hi since Wednesday I have been having problems accessing the Lancashire, >> Manchester Parish records especially the Cathedral. >> >> When you actually click on the image I get a "Oops! There's a >> problempage" is anyone else having this problem? I phoned on Wednesday >> and she was putting in a "report" though nothing has happened. I am >> getting more and more frustrated with them. >> >> Thanks for your help >> Julie x >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. >> >> Please SNIP when replying. >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I want to thank everyone in this group for answering my inquiry about Matilda Henry. You added another country to my ancestry. I never thought I had Irish in me. I belong to 23 and me, and so many people came up on my list that were from Ireland, and now I know why. I guess I have to join another e-group now! I appreciate all of you so much. Thanks again, Sincerely, Ghyll Simoneschi

From: BwUK <martin@biblewitness.org.uk> > Ghyll, There's no need to order the marriage certificate - the original > image for Manchester St Philip's is freely available on line: - > > https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org > /records/collection/1788853/waypoints > > Cut and paste the whole address into your browser, choose Lancashire, > Manchester St Philips. Its in the 1875 to 1881 section; image no. 11 > > Cheers, > Martin> That image illustrates an interesting point that I often stress to beginners. It gives Matilda's father as William Henry, iron dealer - in 1851 he is shown as a blacksmith's striker and in 1861 as a breaker, so that fits - but in fact he was deceased well before the marriage. The 1871 census shows his wife Catherine as a widow and it would seem from FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD that he died in 1866, around the same time as his last child was born. However, the marriage certificate does NOT show that he was deceased - something to be wary about! Sometimes a father is shown as deceased and sometimes not when, in fact, he was, as in this case. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Ghyll, There's no need to order the marriage certificate - the original image for Manchester St Philip's is freely available on line: - https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A//api.familysearch.org/records/collection/1788853/waypoints Cut and paste the whole address into your browser, choose Lancashire, Manchester St Philips. Its in the 1875 to 1881 section; image no. 11 Cheers, Martin On 18/05/2013 10:36, roy.stockdill@btinternet.com wrote: > From: VITO SIMONESCHI <vsgs@optonline.net> > >> Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about >> 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her >> past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She >> married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about >> Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about >> her. >> I thank you in advance for your time and help. >> Sincerely, >> Ghyll Simoneschi> > > The first thing I would suggest is to get the marriage certificate if you > haven't already done so. This will confirm that her father's name was William. > You can find the marriage at two places online, viz..... > > http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php > This reveals that the marriage was at St Philip's, Manchester, and she is named > in the indexes as Matilda HENRYS. The Lancashire BMD website contains entries > from the local registrar's offices and you can download a form to apply for the > certificate online. >... -- "Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth." (Psa.37) Web: http://www.biblewitness.org

Hello Roy, I did indeed find it on Ancestry... Household Schedule Number: 198 Piece: 2933 Folio: 100 Page Number: 41 And as a P.S. to Ghyll, there is also this entry on Ancestry for a marriage: Name: William Henry Age: 21 Birth Year: abt 1828 Marriage Date: 17 Jan 1849 Parish: Manchester, St Mary, St Denys and St George Father's Name: William Henry Spouse's Name: Catharine Kearney Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse's Father's Name: Luke Kearney Archive Roll: 716 Sadly the site isn't allowing for a view of the original certificate so I can't confirm any occupation, but it might be something to keep on the back burner.... Regards, Sally As a matter of interest, could you give me the precise reference in 1861, assuming you found them at Ancestry, since they seem to be missing from Findmypast? In 1871 Catherine's place of birth was definitely given as Manchester. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/

From: sally roberts <sallyroberts55@hotmail.com> > And this might be the family in the 1861 census: > > > Name: Matilda Henry > Age: 4 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 > Relation: Daughter > Father's Name: William Henry > Mother's Name: Cathern Henry > Gender: Female > Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England > Civil Parish: Manchester > Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls > County/Island: Lancashire > Country: England > > Street Address: 12 Boond Street, Manchester > > William Henry 32 "Broaker" born Dublin > Cathern Henry 35 born Dublin > Elizabth Henry 6 born Manchester > Matilda Henry 4 born Manchester > William Henry 1 born Manchester > > > Regards, > Sally> As a matter of interest, could you give me the precise reference in 1861, assuming you found them at Ancestry, since they seem to be missing from Findmypast? In 1871 Catherine's place of birth was definitely given as Manchester. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Ghyll,   this looks like them in 1871    5 Mary Street, Newton aka Newton Heath, Manchester, Catherine Henry 39 wid. no occ. says b Manchester. d Elizabeth 17 Back tenter, cotton mill   d Matilda 13  back tenter cotton mill,  d Harriet Ann, scholar, s William H 11 scholar,  all born Manchester.   Possibles-    7th September 1904  passengers Mathilda <48y and Edward < 50y  Owen,occ miner, left Liverpool on the Oceanic to New York. HTH,Anne ________________________________ From: VITO SIMONESCHI <vsgs@optonline.net> To: Eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, 18 May 2013, 2:07 Subject: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about her. I thank you in advance for your time and help. Sincerely, Ghyll Simoneschi   :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. Please SNIP when replying. Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From: VITO SIMONESCHI <vsgs@optonline.net> > Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about > 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her > past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She > married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about > Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about > her. > I thank you in advance for your time and help. > Sincerely, > Ghyll Simoneschi> The first thing I would suggest is to get the marriage certificate if you haven't already done so. This will confirm that her father's name was William. You can find the marriage at two places online, viz..... http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/marriages.php This reveals that the marriage was at St Philip's, Manchester, and she is named in the indexes as Matilda HENRYS. The Lancashire BMD website contains entries from the local registrar's offices and you can download a form to apply for the certificate online. The other site from which you can order a copy is the vast FreeBMD website which contains many millions of entries from the indexes of the General Register Office for England & Wales at: http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl This has the marriage at Manchester in the Dec quarter of 1875 (vol 8d page 546). You can then order a copy online to be sent to you by going to the GRO website at: http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/#0 and registering, then entering the details you found at FreeBMD. NOTE: Order from one or the other but do not confused the reference details, since the GRO use a different system from the local registrars. The certificate will cost you £9.25 GB sterling from the GRO, probably similar from the local register office but I haven't checked lately. The only likely candidate for a birth in Manchester at the right time that I can see is a MATILDA HENRY registered in the Sept quarter of 1856 (FreeBMD, vol 8d page 116), though there were three other females of the same name born elsewhere in England. I couldn't find the family in the 1861 census but the 1871 census has a Matilda Henry born Manchester 1858 (ages are very often slightly out in the censuses) living at Mary Street, Newton, Lancashire, with her widowed mother, Catherine, 39, and two sisters, Elizabeth, 17, and Harriet Ann, 4, also a brother William H, aged 11. The Lancashire BMD website I gave you above has a marriage in 1849 at Manchester Cathedral of WILLIAM HENRY and CATHERINE KEARNEY and this is also found with FreeBMD. The 1851 census has William and Catherine Henry at 108 Pollard Street, Manchester, he was 21 and a blacksmith's striker, born Ireland, she was 20 and a cotton mule piecer, born Manchester, and they had a 2-months-old daughter called Mary Ann, born Manchester. With them was William's 28-yr-old married sister-in-law Elizabeth Carney. I reckon the likelihood is that William and Catherine were Matilda's parents. Bearing in mind that Catherine was a widow in 1872, both FreeBMD and Lancashire BMD have a death record for William Henry, aged 36, in 1866. It would seem that the youngest child Harriet Ann, who was 4 in 1871, was born either posthumously or around the time William died. I couldn't find Edward and Matilda Owen in the 1881 or 1891 censuses but perhaps they had left for America by then. I trust this little lesson in how to research in UK records online has been of use to you. -- Roy Stockdill Genealogical researcher, writer & lecturer Famous family trees blog: http://blog.findmypast.co.uk/tag/roy-stockdill/ "There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about." OSCAR WILDE

Hi Ghyll, This looks to be Matilda's birth reference: Name: Matilda Henry Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1856 Registration District: Manchester Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8d Page: 116 And this might be the family in the 1861 census: Name: Matilda Henry Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Daughter Father's Name: William Henry Mother's Name: Cathern Henry Gender: Female Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: All Souls County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street Address: 12 Boond Street, Manchester William Henry 32 "Broaker" born Dublin Cathern Henry 35 born Dublin Elizabth Henry 6 born Manchester Matilda Henry 4 born Manchester William Henry 1 born Manchester Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 21:07:29 -0400 > From: vsgs@optonline.net > To: Eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-MAN] MATILDA HENRY > > Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about > 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her > past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She > married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about > Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about > her. > I thank you in advance for your time and help. > Sincerely, > Ghyll Simoneschi

Matilda Henry was my great grandmother. She was born in England about 1855 and died in Brooklyn,NY in 1916. The only thing I know about her past is that her father's name was William Henry (or Henrys). She married Edward Owen in 1875 in Manchester. Does anyone know more about Matilda and her background? I would appreciate finding out more about her. I thank you in advance for your time and help. Sincerely, Ghyll Simoneschi

Hi everyone, back on after a long time away. Names I'm searching in the Hulme/Chorlton on Medlock areas are COLEMAN, NEWNS/NEWNES and STUBBS. Additionally has anyone successfully found school records on 'Find my Past'? Jane