and just how many bushels of corn do they ship you  ?  ;)) Mike Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lynne <lklein@mindspring.com> > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Cc: geoff.barlow1@ntlworld.com > Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 10:42:02 AM   After all, that's why I'm paid so handsomely!  ;-)  <snip>

At 06:24 PM 22/06/2013, Jim wrote: >Re Carol's warning, I would also add that, after the free trial, if you >don't sign up you will continue to get lots of 'spam' messages from >Ancestry! Sure thing, Jim. Parr for the course these days with genealogy competition between the big two. Amazing how the delete button is regularly used! It's at my fingertips most times. Cheers Graham Melbourne Oz

Thanks Jim and Graham for that useful information. I have just had my computer in and they cleared off a lot of rubbish. Looks like its going to get full again!!! Carol

Thanks for that. I think I am going to try Ancestry this weekend. Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "geejay" <geejay@tadaust.org.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or Find or Past > Hi Carol, > Just a word of warning.. If you go for a Free trial period, you still have > to put details of your credit card etc. before you can search. That is > fine, > but please be sure to cancel out a couple of days before the free trial is > over, or you will find they will debit your account with a payment before > you know it. > Also if you try an LDS Family History centre you will get more direct > help. > Yours in Genealogy, > Jan, > in sunny QLD, Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol" <carolcholmondeley@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:43 PM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or Find or Past > > >> Thanks to Both Erics, Glynis, Jan and Louise. >> I went to the library this morning to see how both worked but I didn't >> have a very successful morning as the librarian was busy with other >> people >> when I could have done with help. I found some census on Ancestry but >> there was problem printing them, I will have to enlarge them on my >> printer. Seems there is a problem with it. The librarian said I could >> print them out on FMP but couldn't find them to print!! So this weekend I >> am going to have a free trial period with both. Its not easy teaching an >> old dog new tricks. I could cope with Family Search as it used to be and >> free BMD and even Lancashire and Cheshire Free BMD as they were all >> straight forward. >> Any way thanks again for all your suggestions. >> Carol >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. >> >> Please SNIP when replying. >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re Carol's warning, I would also add that, after the free trial, if you don't sign up you will continue to get lots of 'spam' messages from Ancestry! Jim -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of geejay Sent: 21 June 2013 23:48 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or Find or Past Hi Carol, Just a word of warning.. If you go for a Free trial period, you still have to put details of your credit card etc. before you can search. That is fine, but please be sure to cancel out a couple of days before the free trial is over, or you will find they will debit your account with a payment before you know it.

Hi Carol, Just a word of warning.. If you go for a Free trial period, you still have to put details of your credit card etc. before you can search. That is fine, but please be sure to cancel out a couple of days before the free trial is over, or you will find they will debit your account with a payment before you know it. Also if you try an LDS Family History centre you will get more direct help. Yours in Genealogy, Jan, in sunny QLD, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol" <carolcholmondeley@btinternet.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 11:43 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or Find or Past > Thanks to Both Erics, Glynis, Jan and Louise. > I went to the library this morning to see how both worked but I didn't > have a very successful morning as the librarian was busy with other people > when I could have done with help. I found some census on Ancestry but > there was problem printing them, I will have to enlarge them on my > printer. Seems there is a problem with it. The librarian said I could > print them out on FMP but couldn't find them to print!! So this weekend I > am going to have a free trial period with both. Its not easy teaching an > old dog new tricks. I could cope with Family Search as it used to be and > free BMD and even Lancashire and Cheshire Free BMD as they were all > straight forward. > Any way thanks again for all your suggestions. > Carol > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to Both Erics, Glynis, Jan and Louise. I went to the library this morning to see how both worked but I didn't have a very successful morning as the librarian was busy with other people when I could have done with help. I found some census on Ancestry but there was problem printing them, I will have to enlarge them on my printer. Seems there is a problem with it. The librarian said I could print them out on FMP but couldn't find them to print!! So this weekend I am going to have a free trial period with both. Its not easy teaching an old dog new tricks. I could cope with Family Search as it used to be and free BMD and even Lancashire and Cheshire Free BMD as they were all straight forward. Any way thanks again for all your suggestions. Carol

I use Family Tree Maker and for me the huge advantage of Ancestry is that with one click I can get a list of all the relevant census etc references for any name on my FTM tree or, with a few more clicks, even any name that I care to enter . Eric Millward

On 20/06/2013 08:00, eng-manchester-request@rootsweb.com wrote: <snip> Hi all I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all changed too. I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. Best wishes to you all Carol <snip> HI Carol As others have said, both of the sites are useful, but different; it all depends on what you want and what you are looking for. At the moment I use ancestry more because they have some useful (for me) Parish records before the 1837 introduction of state BMD registrations. But 'find my past' had some census records that ancestry didn't. I find FreeBMD the best (and free) for Births, Marriages and Deaths post 1837. When I was having problems finding one of my ancestors and contacted the group, someone found him on 'Family Search'; his name had been mis-spelt in a variation that the other two sites had missed. My husband used 'Family Search' a lot before they re-vamped it; apparently you can still get to the old Wallace front end, but I'm not sure how, as I've never used it. Ancestry's search engine is very broad and unfathomable at times, and fmp's is very exact! Both ancestry and fmp do free trials - why not sign up for a trial and see which is most useful? Glynis

Hi Carol, I use all those sources and find, they are all different, the way they work and what records they have to search. You just have to figure out which holds the most that you are interested in. The way they work is just a matter of trial and error and practise. If you're concerned about subscriptions, the familysearch is free no matter where you are. Ancestry and FMP access are available free at any Public library or LDS Family History Centre. Check out their data bases and pick whatever suits you. If you're putting your own tree on there, I find Ancestry the easiest. Hope this has been of some help to you. Yours in Genealogy, Jan, in sunny QLD, Australia

Hello Carol I have found Find-my- past the best and very easy to use. Best wishes Eric -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of carol Sent: 19 June 2013 08:56 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or find my past Hi all I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all changed too. I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. Best wishes to you all Carol :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. Please SNIP when replying. Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been silently on this site for about two years, and have found nothing to do with my family name, but just hope one day something will pop up, Janita Sydney Australia. -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of carol Sent: Wednesday, 19 June 2013 5:56 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or find my past Hi all I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all changed too. I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. Best wishes to you all Carol :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. Please SNIP when replying. Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have both, I do everything on Ancestry, I just use Genes for searching for peoples trees who don't have an ancestry account really. I don't like Genes as you have to ask everyone to view their tree, whereas on Ancestry I can quickly see if someone's tree is what I am looking for or not. I also love Ancestry call centre staff, always gin the extra mile for me. Been a member since 2004 Regards Louise Sent from my iPhone On 19 Jun 2013, at 14:48, <deborahjbd.1@netzero.net> wrote: > when I didn't have Ancestry everything was there. Now that I have it I am > finding nothing. > Deborah > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol" <carolcholmondeley@btinternet.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:55 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or find my past > > >> Hi all >> I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have >> not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems >> to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all >> changed too. >> I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. >> Best wishes to you all >> Carol >> >> >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. >> >> Please SNIP when replying. >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> >> :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > BlackBerry&#174 10 > Get the latest details on the new BlackBerry 10 smartphone. > http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/51c1b692db89a36922b2dst01duc > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

when I didn't have Ancestry everything was there. Now that I have it I am finding nothing. Deborah ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol" <carolcholmondeley@btinternet.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 3:55 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ancestry or find my past > Hi all > I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have > not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems > to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all > changed too. > I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. > Best wishes to you all > Carol > > > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > Be sure list mail is in PLAIN TEXT. > > Please SNIP when replying. > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > > :-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~:-~: > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ____________________________________________________________ BlackBerry&#174 10 Get the latest details on the new BlackBerry 10 smartphone. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/51c1b692db89a36922b2dst01duc

Hi all I wonder which of these two sites people find best value for money. I have not used Ancestry for a while and now I've come back to it but there seems to have been a lot of changes. I've tried Family Search but that has all changed too. I would be glad of some of your opinions on good sites. Best wishes to you all Carol

Hi Janita, why not post what details you have so far on your family. It would be a big help to us :)0 Kind regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada >________________________________ > From: Jan <janhercus@iinet.net.au> >To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2013 5:50:50 AM >I've been silently on this site for about two years, and have found nothing >to do with my family name,  but just hope one day something will pop up, <snip>

Morning Listers, The latest visit to the Lancs OPC website found the following records have been added. The search engine has been updated to include the databases shown below: www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 10 June 2013 Marriages 1832 to 1855 from the Roman Catholic Church of SS Peter and Paul, Bolton le Moors Baptisms 1919 to 1925 and Marriages 1878 to 1883 and 1900 to 1922 from Hanover United Methodist Free Church, Bolton Marriages 1899 to 1928 from St George's Road Methodist, Bolton Baptisms 1892 to 1966 and Marriages 1903 to 1940 from Peace Street Methodist Church, Daubhill, Bolton Marriages 1824 to 1829 and 1833 to 1837 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Deane Baptisms 1890 to 1952 from Brunswick Methodist Church, in the Parish of Horwich Marriages 1942 to 1964 from St George, in the Town of Wigan Regards, Sally

Morning all, Here are the latest records to be added to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website:  http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html The Search Engine has been updated to include all the records shown below. 7 June 2013 Baptisms 1585 to 1719 and Marriages 1586 to 1718 from the Church of St Paul in the Parish of Caton New transcripts from the Original Parish Registers Marriages 1874 to 1900 from the Parish of Cockerham Marriages 1915 to 1958 from Ebenezer Primitive Methodist Chapel in the Parish of Dukinfield Baptisms and Burials 1660 to 1689 and Marriages 1661 to 1689 from the Church of St Helen, in the Parish of Garstang Marriages 1843 to 1883 from the Church of St Anne in the City of Lancaster Burials 1813 to 1847 from the Church of St John the Baptist in the Parish of Lees (or Hey) Marriages 1856 to 1857 from St John in the Town of Preston Marriages 1670 to 754 and Burials 1669 to 1782 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Rufford These transcripts from the Parish Register replace a previous partial transcription of the registers for Marriages 1702-1726 and Burials 1695-1727 6 June 2013 Baptisms 1849 to 1856 from the Roman Catholic Church of St Ann in the Parish of Ashton under Lyne Burials 1767 to 1778 from the Church of St Thomas, in the District of Heaton Norris, Manchester Baptisms 1869 to 1876 from the Church of St Aidan, Kirkdale, Liverpool Banns 1941 to 1960 from the Church of St Athanasius, Kirkdale, Liverpool Baptisms 1836 to 1843 and 1855 to 1859 from the Church of St Mary, Kirkdale, Liverpool Marriages 1840 to 1842 and 1852 to 1854 from the Church of St Mary in the City of Manchester Baptisms 1912 to 1954 from Stamford Rd Wesleyan Methodist in the Parish of Mossley Baptisms 1723 to 1755 from All Saints, in the District of Newton Heath, Manchester Burials 1834 to 1841 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, in the Parish of Radcliffe Burials 1854 to 1877 from the Church of St Thomas, in the Parish of Radcliffe Marriages 1843 to 1874 from the Church of St Barnabas, Toxteth, Liverpool Baptisms 1945 to 1948 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Toxteth, Liverpool Baptisms 1793 to 1798 from the Church of St Leonard in the Parish of Walton le Dale Regards, Sally

Hello Graham Thank you for your reply. I am not actually looking for myself but for a friend. The marriage in Chorley that you have given me is the correct one, but all their children were baptised Catholic. I have seen the index for the Hidden Gem but I was hoping to get the full baptism. Thank you again for your time Regards Sandy ---------------------------------------------------------------------- At 02:34 PM 3/06/2013, Sandy wrote: >I wonder if anyone has access to the baptism registers. I am looking for >Thomas Bamber baptised in 1829. His fathers name was Thomas Bamber and his >mothers maiden name was Tootell/Tootall/Tootle. Thank you

Hello all, Today's visit to the OPC website found the following databases have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/whatsnew.html 4 June 2013 Baptisms 1922 to 1972 from the Church of St James and St Elizabeth, Bickershaw, in the Parish of Abram Marriages 1961 to 1966 from the Church of St John the Evangelist, Hindley Green, in the Parish of Hindley Burials 1955 to 1964 from Holy Trinity, in the Parish of Horwich Baptisms 1893 to 1911 from the Church of St George, in the Town of Wigan Marriages 1870 to 1878 and 1905 to 1915 from St Thomas, in the Town of Wigan The search engine has been updated to include the above records when using the search facility. Regards, Sally