Hi Group, Andrew sorry but you were right mentioning Richard Edward Verdon,he is brother to Henry Walter that l am looking for...l feel a bit of a goose.Pauline.

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Hi Andrew and Jean, Thank you to both of you.Andrew l am curious as to where your Verdon family are.l have two brothers,one incumbent as St Annes' in Tottington,Edward,and his brother is William,incumbent at Holy Trinity,Salford.They are both born in Dublin.There is also another brother , Thomas K.De Verdon,who was an Independant Minister in Surrey then London.Send me an email privately if you like if your Verdons are not in Manchester.l did have those IGI records and R.E.Verdon whom you found in fleetwood is son of Edward Verdon above,therefore cousin of Henry Walter Verdon whom l am searching for in 51 and 61.l do have quite a bit of information re Verdons so contact me. Jean,thanks for that area descrption.Funny isnt it,seems that Manchester Grammar is also very near where my husbands' Pendlebury family lived.l also checked and feel that Henry Erlam may just be Henry Verdon.Otherwise l should be able to find him,Pauline.

Thank you Leita. Here's hoping !! Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leita Fennell" <Leita44@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2008 11:49 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] NCH & ORPHANAGE Address > This was the Address in 1986 > > National Childrens Home > 85 Highbury Park > London N5 1UD > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pauline Looked for a birth for a Hanry Irlam only one that I could find was a William Henry Iralm 1851 born Chorlton district so it looks as though there was no birth for a Henry. The other thing whether this helps or not. Manchester Grammar Scholl was situated between Manchester Cathedral then the Collegaite Church and the church's domestic quarters, subsequently Chethams School of Music. Jean Pauline Pendlebury <ppendlebury@iinet.net.au> wrote: Thanks Jean.l also followed up on that and that's part of the reason l think that it may be my Henry Walter Verdon.Henry can be found on all later census as born 1850 at Salford.He was the son of William Verdon who was the Curate at Holy Trinity,Salford.He had died and his mother Sophia,had remarried,her surname now being Verdon-Roe.She can be found at Eccles. Henry is supposed to be at school at the Manchester Grammar but l don't know how to find it on census.l still think that is him maybe mistranscibed as followup on Henry Erlam doesn't fit the picture.Any ideas gratefully welcomed,Pauline. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Jean.l also followed up on that and that's part of the reason l think that it may be my Henry Walter Verdon.Henry can be found on all later census as born 1850 at Salford.He was the son of William Verdon who was the Curate at Holy Trinity,Salford.He had died and his mother Sophia,had remarried,her surname now being Verdon-Roe.She can be found at Eccles. Henry is supposed to be at school at the Manchester Grammar but l don't know how to find it on census.l still think that is him maybe mistranscibed as followup on Henry Erlam doesn't fit the picture.Any ideas gratefully welcomed,Pauline.

Hi Pauline I followed up your posting to see if there was any link to the Verdons in my tree. I didn't find any, but I found a couple of things that may be of help. Like you, I couldn't find Henry on the 1861 Census. But I found his brother Richard Edward. On the IGI, William & Sophia have several children:- WM EVERARD VERDON Birth: 04 JUL 1844 Christening: 08 AUG 1844 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England RICHD EDWD VERDON Birth: 12 OCT 1845 Christening: 15 MAR 1846 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England ANNA SOPHIA VERDON Birth: 28 MAY 1847 Christening: 02 JUL 1847 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England HENRY WALTER VERDON Birth: 20 APR 1849 Christening: 18 MAY 1849 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England CHAS GEO VERDON Birth: 22 APR 1851 Holy Trinity,Salford, , Lancashire, England In 1861, there is an R E Verdon, b. Salford, abt 1846, a pupil in Thornton, Fleetwood, Lancashire. Regards, Andrew Clarke In a message dated 4/5/2008 01:53:16 GMT Daylight Time, ppendlebury@iinet.net.au writes: Thanks Jean.l also followed up on that and that's part of the reason l think that it may be my Henry Walter Verdon.Henry can be found on all later census as born 1850 at Salford.He was the son of William Verdon who was the Curate at Holy Trinity,Salford.He had died and his mother Sophia,had remarried,her surname now being Verdon-Roe.She can be found at Eccles. Henry is supposed to be at school at the Manchester Grammar but l don't know how to find it on census.l still think that is him maybe mistranscibed as followup on Henry Erlam doesn't fit the picture.Any ideas gratefully welcomed,Pauline.

Thanks to Lorraine for sending that to me.Does anyone on list know if the Bridge St College of Music would be affiliated with the Manchester Grammar School?Thanks ,Pauline.

Hi Group, l have been searching for a person and l believe l have found him with his name mistranscribed.l have the details and wonder if someone could check the 1861 census please as l cannot download the page to see it.l have sent an email to ancestry informing them of this.Details are - Henry Erlam,Aged 11,Born abt 1850, Boarder,Born Eccles, Civil Parish of Manchester,Ecc Parish of St Mary,Town of Manchester.RG9,Piece 2938,Folio 6,Page 6,GSU Roll - 543043. He is Boarding in the Deansgate District 1,at what l believe will be the Manchester Grammar School.If this is so then he will be my Henry Walter Verdon,l would like to check the transcription,or if someone else could look l would be so grateful,thank you,Pauline.

Having trouble finding this census, but I saw on the 1881 a Henry Irlam abt 1849 born Eccles he was a pauper in a workhouse. Jean Pauline Pendlebury <ppendlebury@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Image sent to Pauline, Lorraine Details are - Henry Erlam,Aged 11,Born abt 1850, Boarder,Born Eccles, Civil Parish of Manchester,Ecc Parish of St Mary,Town of Manchester.RG9,Piece 2938,Folio 6,Page 6,GSU Roll - 543043. He is Boarding in the Deansgate District 1,at what l believe will be the Manchester Grammar School.If this is so then he will be my Henry Walter Verdon,l would like to check the transcription,or if someone else could look l would be so grateful,thank you,Pauline. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.8/1412 - Release Date: 02/05/2008 16:34

Thank you Leita Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leita Fennell" <Leita44@bigpond.com> To: <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 8:49 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] NCH & ORPHANAGE Address > This was the Address in 1986 > > National Childrens Home > 85 Highbury Park > London N5 1UD > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This was the Address in 1986 National Childrens Home 85 Highbury Park London N5 1UD

Hi Helen I've had a look for you but cannot see anything :-( There are 3 x Ellen RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire between 1837 and 1847 (+/-5 from 1842 - 1858-16) and 11 x Eli* RADCLIFFEs born in Lancashire (same time frame). If you can access the list but not the images, let me know which look most promising and I will access them for you. I would look at them all now but I'm not sure what I'm looking for as most are "daughters" (ie living with parents). Sorry I couldn't wave a magic wand for you ;-) Heather PS Oh, just a thought, she might be on the water-damaged images of 1851. In which case you need someone with the CDs of the transcriptions. HELEN wrote: > Hi Heather, > > Thank you. I have been trying to look at the 1851c on Ancestry but the > pages won't open up. I have sent a msg to them. > > Her name is Elizabeth Ellen Radcliffe. > > That she was raised in an orphanage is by word of mouth. But official > records say she was born in Manchester, arrived at age 16 in 1858. > > She is not on shipping records so we think she may have come out as a nurse > maid and not put on the shipping list. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > > > >> Hi Helen >> >> Do you have the given name of your Gt Grandmother? >> >> Where did you find the limited info that you have? How >> concrete/reliable is it? Or just word of mouth? >> >> There would be orphanages all over the country - in most major towns. >> Do you know that she came from Manchester? Or just Lancashire? Or just >> "north England, possibly Scotland"?! >> >> I'd be happy to look on the 1851 census but need a little more info, if >> you have it. >> Heather >> >> >> HELEN wrote: >> >>> Since I was last on this list I have found out my grtgrandmother was >>> raised in an orphanage. >>> >>> The only information she left behind was that she was 16 when she arrived >>> in NZ, arrived in 1858 [cannot find her on shipping] and her father was a >>> painter. >>> >>> Did any orphanage records survive ? Where would I find them ? In what >>> areas were the orphanages ? >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> Helen

Hi Shiela I'm no looking for Robert and Sarah's children, I already have those details. It is Robert himself and HIS siblings, and his parents I'm looking for. Dorothy

Picked up this message from the Cheshire site; I have a similar problem with my Grandfather (Herbert Harold Horton, 1888-1949) who left my Grandmother Emily.Family lore suggests that she went for a formal seperation when he wouldn't sign papers for my father to go to seconarday school, assumed around aged 11, in 1925. His death certificate was witnessed by "R.B Horton widow of the deceased" He died at5, Oxford Place, Manchester.(where he died in 1959) I been given his dates at that address in 1942,1944,1945 and 1947, thanks to the Manchester Group No trace of the wedding certificate, or children - my half-cousins Regards, Graeme -----Original Message----- From: cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:cheshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Geoff Mellor Sent: 02 May 2008 17:27 To: cheshire@rootsweb.com Subject: [CHS] Tracing Fathers of Illegitimate Children Hello list, I have recently obtained a marriage certificate, thanks to Elaine for advice, for my gggrandparents, William Mellor and Ann Staton (named as Stayton on the cert) which names her father as Noa Davenport. Ann Staton was born in Congleton in 1830 and christened by her mother Sophia Staton as illegitimate. I have followed up on this and there does appear to have been a Noah Davenport born in Astbury in 1807 which would put him in the right place and age to have possibly been her father. Two questions Is there another way that I can pursue this aside from the Parish records ? Is anyone else researching the Davenports of Congleton who may have other info which could help me ? Best regards, Geoff ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CHESHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There is a Robert Whitehead married to Sarah Mather on June 4, 1819 at Manchester Cathedral from the LDS IGI files. They have made copies of all of the films for M/c Cathedral. If you have the children's names you could check the IGI for those as well.> From: Djedoric58@aol.com> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 09:09:41 -0400> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ALL SAINTS PARISH REGISTERS> > > Hi Shiela> > I am looking for info on a Robert Whitehead who was christened on 20 Dec > 1795 in Dob Lane and Newton Chapel, Failsworth. On checking the batch numbers > for that entry, I find there is no entry for any other siblings. I was > wondering if anything could be found in the records of All Saints Newton Heath. This > Robert was the son of John, and is reputed to be married in Manchester > Cathedral in 1819 to Sarah Mather. All their children were baptised in All Saints > and that is why I thought I might find Roberts and his family in All Saints. > Can you help at all?> > Dorothy> > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Forwarded at the request of the author. -------- Original Message -------- The WorldGenWeb Project is a non-profit, volunteer based organization providing genealogical and historical records and resources for world-wide access. You can learn more about it at http://www.worldgenweb.org/ I am a member of the team and already coordinate several sites within the British Isles project. Currently I am republishing the Southwestern BC (Canada) GenWeb site which will include an "Immigrant Families" Page. If you have a family history web site that concerns ancestors that emigrated from Lancashire to Canada, eventually settling in the province of British Columbia, please send me the URL and a brief description that I can include in my Immigrant Families page. I will also have a "Help Wanted" page to which you can add any 'brickwall' that you might have concerning ancestors who settled in British Columbia. This information could help others searching the same surname and in turn may provide you with more information. So as not to overload the List please contact me off line at anderson.terri71@gmail.com Regards, Terri

Hi Listers, just thought I'd list my interest again, in case there are any new people on the list. Parry,John, b.c.1796 d.January 1853 in Liverpool rd.Deansgate, left wife Elizabeth[b.1795 d.1865] They were 'Furniture Brokers'. Had three sons John,[mar.Hannah Shawcross] had furniture stores, listed on census as various things from cabinetmaker, furniture broker, to inventor. James[mar. Mary Tonge] was a furniture dealer and cabinetmaker, had children,Joseph, James, Janet, Eliza and Mary. He died Manchester 1882. Joseph[mar. Ellen Tighe] migrated to Australia around 1857. Any scraps of info gratefully appreciated. Yours in Genealogy, Jan, in sunny Queensland, Australia

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