Sorry Lesley. From what little info she left, she was born in 1842 and arrived in NZ in 1858. Can't find any shipping for her, may have been a nanny. Thanks Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "lesley" <bbqman@bigpond.net.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] CENSUS LOOK UP >I may have missed it, but could you restate the YEARS you are looking at, >or > an approximate year of birth for Elizabeth?? > > Thanks > > Lesley > Melbourne, Australia > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I may have missed it, but could you restate the YEARS you are looking at, or an approximate year of birth for Elizabeth?? Thanks Lesley Melbourne, Australia

Hi Lilie I was wondering if you have an Eva Nuttall in your family? My uncle Albert Whitehead married Eva in the early 1900s in Newton Heath. He was a widower with two young children. Dorothy

Hi Lilie, ON the 1901 census James E Nuttall is a crumpet baker working for himself. on the site www.lancashirebmd.org the marriage of James and Sarah is listed as taking place in Chorlton-on-Medlock,If you obtain this cert it will give you the names of their respective fathers,helping you to find their families on earlier census returns. Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lilie" <liliejones@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 12:40 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Nuttall/Whitehead > Hi there, > > I am searching for anyone who may have links to my grandmother Lucy > Nuttall and her family. > > Her parents, James Edward Nuttall (b 1853) and Sarah Whitehead (b. 1856) > were married in 1881 at Ardwick Congregational Church, Tipping St (?). > > From what I have been told thus far, all of the Nuttall children (listed > below) were raised in Manchester. As of the 1891 census, the family were > living in Gorton. > Alice (b. 1883) > Sarah (b. 1887) > Ezra Nuttall (b. 1889) > William Nuttall (b. 1890) who later emigrated to the U.S > John (Jack) Nuttall (b. 1894) > Lucy Nuttall (1900) who after her retirement, emigrated to New Zealand > with her husband. > > If anyone has a connection with any of these people in their family tree, > or any info they care to share, I would love to hear from you. > > Regards, > Lilie > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone, I've added C, D and E surnames to the site now (from the Roll of warrant officers, non-commissioned officers and men in the 2/6th Battalion of the Liverpool Rifles "The Kings") and I've added 4 photographs. Please don't forget to let me know if you recognise a relative in the photos so that I can add their name to the image! The site is very basic (I'm new to the whole web building thing) so please let me know if you spot any errors or have any troubles with it, I'd love to hear from anyone who might have anything to add to the site (on the 2/6th Battalion) Thank you, Tamara (Australia). URL: http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolkings

Could sks recommend a good researcher? Thank you,Marlene

Dear Sheila, Please would you check whether the burials of the following might be mentioned in the Newton Heath parish register, vol.159: 1. Richard WADKIN / WATKIN, (between 1805 and 1811). (Richard married 10 May 1803 at the Collegiate Church of St Dennis and St George, Manchester. His then occupation was 'cotton spinning' and his last child was baptised 29 Sep 1805. His widow, nee Betty HOYLE, as Elizabeth HOYLE married a 2nd time on 4 May 1812 to Richard ROBERTS at the same church.) 2. Sarah WATKIN (between 1804-1811). (Sarah WATKIN, daughter or Richard and Elizabeth WATKIN, was baptised on 29 April 1804 at the above church, and died before the birth on 3 June 1813, of Richard and Elizabeth Roberts' 1st child, who was named 'Sarah' in her memory.) 3. Mrs. Richard Roberts, formerly Mrs. Richard Watkin, nee Elizabeth Hoyle (between 24 Dec 1824 and 29 Sep 1825). (Richard and Elizabeth Roberts' last child, Jemima Roberts, was born on 24 Dec 1824 and baptised on 6 Mar 1825. On 29 Sep 1875, which was the 70th birthday of her son, James Watkin - by her 1st marriage - he wrote of his mother's death '50 years earlier'. ) Thanking you in anticipation Winifred Johns Message: 6 Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 11:44:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Sheila Johnston <sjohnston17@yahoo.ca> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ALL SAINTS PARISH REGISTERS To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <929559.84152.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear Dorothy and Irene, For yourselves and others who may be interested in the All Saints Parish Registers of Newton Heath, I have the bound volumes # 158 and 159 published by the Lancashire Parish Register Society. You can find out more about other published registers at <http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/LAN/lprs/> Volume 158 covers: Baptisms 1655-1796 Marriages 1682-1754 Burials 1672-1796 Volume 159 covers baptisms and burials for 1979-1837. Having said that, there are very few marriages in volume 158 and none in vol. 159 as they seemed to have been mostly performed in Manchester or Prestwich during that time frame. I have reviewed the filmed registers as well, but the earlier years are of very poor quality and difficult to read, so there may be some missing or very illegible records. Take care,

I am asking for people that have the various CDs to please look them up for my grtgrandmother, she is not on the Ancestry.com censuses. I don't know where in Manchester she lived. Can't buy all CDs. Her name is Elizabeth Ellen RADCLIFFE [could be any spelling] also only Elizabeth may have been used. Only one other clue - her father was a painter. She named her children, James Alfred, Elizabeth Ellen, Frances Agnes, Joseph Henry, Francis Keil, Richard, Elizabeth Anna, Mary [Mabel], Ethel Alice. Can't think of what else to do TIA Helen

Thank you Patricia. I have taken the address of the Records Office. They should know what orphanages were operating back in the 1850s. If I could find out what part of Manchester she lived in it might help. As she doesn't seem to be on the Ancestry.com censuses I need the CDs. Buying all 10 is not an option. I will ask if people can do lookups for me. Can't think of what else to do. Thanks again. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 6:10 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > Helen, > Have you seen this site? http://www.institutions.org.uk/index.html > There is a section on Orphanages > Pat W > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "HELEN" <helenh48@westnet.com.au> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:57 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE > > > Hi Patricia, > Yes, she said Manchester on official records. Cheers > Helen without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Ellen, The term 'natural child' is either used to differentiate between adopted and 'natural' children, or as a euphemism for 'illegitimate'. The context in this case suggests the latter interpretation. A euphemism tends to mean whatever the euphemist wants it to mean, but one of the accepted differentiations between 'illegitimate' and 'natural child', where instances of both occur as in this case, is that the 'natural child' has been acknowledged by the supposed father. In all of the above I'm assuming that these children were born in Manchester, otherwise Lynne will be along questioning my ancestry <g> Regards, Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ellen Oakley Hello List On a Parish Record that I have been looking at it says for one of my families for one of the children Illegitimate and for another one it says Natural Child. Does this mean the Illegitimate one was born before wedlock and the Natural Child born after wedlock, or is there another reason. Thanks Ellen

Bob Thornley wrote: ><snip> > >In all of the above I'm assuming that these children were born in >Manchester, otherwise Lynne will be along questioning my ancestry <g> > > Never! <vbg> Lynne

Hello List On a Parish Record that I have been looking at it says for one of my families for one of the children Illegitimate and for another one it says Natural Child. Does this mean the Illegitimate one was born before wedlock and the Natural Child born after wedlock, or is there another reason. Thanks Ellen

It's always worth looking at list archives to see if a solution to your problem has been mentioned before. I've repeatedly posted that the Unfilmed Census records done by Manchester & Lancs FHS are available on Family History Online see - http://www.familyhistoryonline.net Searching is free and there's a nominal fee to see the transcribed entries - this isn't an image since the originals are in such poor condition. There are 7 variants of Elizabeth Radcliffe in the Unfilmed for Lancashire in 1851 some with several individuals. The fee per entry is 10p. I believe that there is a further charge to see the rest of the family but still it's quite inexpensive compared with other pay-per-view sites. I hope one of them is yours. Good Luck, Irene

Helen, Have you seen this site? http://www.institutions.org.uk/index.html There is a section on Orphanages Pat W ----- Original Message ----- From: "HELEN" <helenh48@westnet.com.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 02, 2008 4:57 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ORPHANAGE - RADCLIFFE Hi Patricia, Yes, she said Manchester on official records. Cheers Helen

Hi everyone, I am hoping someone has easy access to the marriages for 1837 (pre 1 July) for Mancester Cathedral and can do a lookup for me - the marriage took place on 12 June 1837 (extracted record IGI) of James TAYLOR and Elizabeth RHODES, I am hoping his occupation is stated on the original records. Many thanks and happy hunting Annette WATSON Lismore Australia

Help list, l cannot find any of the family including Henry Walter Verdon in 1851,Henry would be 3. This is his fathers' death notice from The Liverpool Mercury,Mon.July 14th;1856.- July 8th,in his 54th year,the Re.William Verdon, B.A;Incumbent of St Johns,Pendlebury. Williams' wife was Sophia[Everard].Sophia was born in Spalding,Lincolnshire,their youngest child,Charles George Verdon was Ch. 22/04/1851 so he would be just a babe. l am wondering if maybe this could be on a water- damaged section.Does anyone have any ideas how l might find them please,Pauline.

Hello everyone, >From time to time I used to post to the Lancs lists and offer to do look ups for soldiers names from a Battalion book I have (my Great Grandfathers) on the 2/6th Liverpool Rifles (WW1). I decided that it might be a good idea to create a website (a very basic one!) where I can post all of the soldiers names and some more information from the book for anyone to access. It's still very much a work in progress (I only started it today!) but I have stored the A surnames and the B surnames so far. I will continue to try to do the rest as quickly as possible and will try to let the lists know of updates. If anyone has anything to contribute on this particular battalion I would love to add as much as possible to the website! Thank you, Tamara - Australia. Website address is: http://www.freewebs.com/liverpoolkings/index.htm

Hi Dorothy, I'll have a look again for Robert, any sibs and his parents. Sheila >> Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 19:31:31 EDT > From: Djedoric58@aol.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] ALL SAINTS PARISH REGISTERS > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > > > Hi Shiela > > I'm no looking for Robert and Sarah's children, I > already have those > details. It is Robert himself and HIS siblings, and his > parents I'm looking for. > > Dorothy > __________________________________________________________________ Ask a question on any topic and get answers from real people. Go to Yahoo! Answers and share what you know at http://ca.answers.yahoo.com

Good afternoon fellow listers and a Happy Bank holiday to you all. I wondered if anyone with access to the 1851 water damaged census for Salford could check to see if there is a legible entry for 4 Entwistle St. I believe that there should be a Hewitt family living at the address. Regards Gina

Hello Gentle Listers: I am looking for relatives or descendents of any of the following people who lived in or around Salford in the late 1940's. These were all friends of my parents (Laurie White and Jack Sweeney) and grandparents (Doris and Charles Harold White) who lived at 35 Wellington St E. Salford, Higher Broughton. I am hoping that someone may know what became of my grandfather, who was last heard from at that address in November 1950, following the death of his wife (my grandmother) Doris in September of that year. Edward (Ted) and Hannah Anderson James and Elizabeth (Cis) Murphy Ernie and Rene Chapman Horace and Dolly Dixon Aileen and Ruth Marcus Mary Boyd Billy and Lena Simpson Any information would be most gratefully appreciated. Thanks in advance! Gail Lewis Vancouver Island, BC Canada