Hi Jane <I've found my John JOHNSON marrying Margaret HAUGHTON in 1887 Christ Church, Bradford > I am going in the morning and can transcribe it for you. HTH Dee

I've hit a brick wall with the following and wonder if anyone fancies a challenge. I've searched the census returns high and low with all sorts of variations, but I'm coming up with nothing solid. Any help/suggestions would be much appreciated. Charles Hulmes born c.1839 Manchester, occupation Carter - Married Jane Murray 1860 Manchester. Both aged 21 years. Father, Robert Hulmes, occupation Painter. I found Charles on 1861 census at 12 Smiths Building, Blackfriars with Jane. Cannot find Charles or Robert on 1851 or 1841 census. George Waterworth born c.1844, occupation Boatman or Waterman - Married Sarah Roach Nov.1863 at Manchester Cathedral. Father also George Waterworth, occupation farmer. I can't find George on any of the census returns. His poor wife Sarah was in Salford Workhouse in 1871 with a new born son and her two other children were residing with her father Joseph Roach in Salford. She then went on to have two more children in 1882 and 1884. I have found Sarah on all the census, but there is no sign of George on any of them. When she was in the workhouse in 1871, her marital status was m. so he wasn't deceased. Help please!!!

I will keep your query unless I hear someone has found what you want. I don't yet know when I will get to Central Library, but hope it will be soon. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Mellors To: ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:01 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] (no subject) <snip> At the moment I would appreciate someone looking up the obituary for Charles Horace Page who died 12 Feb 1911 - he committed - I would like to know the details leading up to this event. Thanks Chris

Hi All I've had a huge breakthrough with my JOHNSON's <yippeeeeeeeee> I've found my John JOHNSON marrying Margaret HAUGHTON in 1887 Christ Church, Bradford (Mar qtr 1887 Prestwich 8d 340). I'm wondering if someone could look this marriage up for me, I will get the certificate but it won't be for another month, and I'm so impatient :o)) It's taken me so long to get my John Johnson right! (In 1871 I have about 50 to choose from, and they're just the one's spelt correctly!) I'm desperate to know who his father is so I can move further back with this family. Jane :o) In wet and windy Cornwall wishing she was still in Manchester!

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Hello Kergan, Chorlton Cum Hardy in 1829 was mainly countryside with a few large homes. It would be a long journey by horse to get into central Manchester and some of the hospitals. So maybe he was born there and moved at a later date. Unless he was performing his duties as a doctor at the local military barracks in Hulme named Cavalry Barracks. This would have been a short distance from Chorlton cum Hardy. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <KERJEANNE@aol.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Edward Turner Bale and Colius Church, Manchester > Thank you Mike I will follow up on this. > > Kergan in Tucson > > ester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:33 PM > >>I just found out that my elusive gg-grandfather, Edward Turner Bale, was >> married to Ann Gregory on 25 June 1829 at Colius Church, Manchester. >> >> Bale was recorded as a surgeon from Chorlton cum Hardy. <snipped>

Thank you Mike I will follow up on this. Kergan in Tucson In a message dated 6/27/2008 7:33:49 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, morrisind@rogers.com writes: I think you will fiond this was suppose to read the Collegiate Church, which was the Parish Church of Manchester. It became the Cathedral in 1847. Chorlton Cum Hardy was in south Manchester south east of Stretford. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 4:33 PM >I just found out that my elusive gg-grandfather, Edward Turner Bale, was > married to Ann Gregory on 25 June 1829 at Colius Church, Manchester. > > Bale was recorded as a surgeon from Chorlton cum Hardy. Where is Colius > Church, in Chorlton cum Hardy? Does his marriage record make note of > Bales age or > Birth Date? <snipped? ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Dear Jane, I accept your offer with gratitude. I can find nothing about my g.grandfather, Robert Holding (Holden) who was married to my g.grandmother Tamar Wroe) who died in 1845 in Eccles, Lancs. The children lived with their married sister Mary Millward in a Naismyth foundry house in Patricroft. Tamar was born in 1801 Robert seems to have flown the coop before his wife's death but I can find no trace of him. His name is shown on my grandfather's wedding certificate as father of the groom but whether this means he was alive then, I do not know. Any light you can throw on this puzzle would be much appreciated. Elsie Hemming ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > Hi Jane > Sorry, but I have absolutely nothing on Israel & Eliza other than their > names. > I am just starting the foray into English certificates and are still > awaiting them. > Family stories go that they may have gone to Canada or America. > > Just wondering if they turn up in 1851, 1861 and maybe 1871 Census > MariaNSW, Aus >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, >> 26 Jun 2008 23:26:48 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on >> ancestry> > Hi Maria> > do you have a year of birth for Israel and >> Eliza?> > Jane :o)> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria Thomas" >> <mnmthomas@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com>> Sent: >> Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered >> on ancestry> > > >> > Hi Jane> > Many thanks for your offer, if you could >> please check for the following > > family - maybe then I can work out >> where they went :-)> >> > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at >> Manchester (awaiting the > > cert).> > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at >> Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > > DRURY - this family with >> children arrived in Aust 1879.> >> > So I am trying to work out what >> happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > > siblings.> >> > Many >> thanks againMariaNSW, Aus> >> >> >> >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net! > > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, > >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 > > +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on > >> ancestry> > Hi All> > > > While I'm waiting on certificates! 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Hi Mike, Many thanks for such a speedy reply.Very much appreciated ! Cheers Kath

Hi Glenys I think I've found the family in 1841 - 1871 minus Joesph W unfortunately. The later census returns are including the surnames Heir, Welch, Williamson, Is this the right family? I'll look again for Joseph W. 1841 England Census 1841 England Census Name: Joseph Peak Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Manchester Hundred: Salford County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Ancoats Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Jane Faley 10 Joseph Peak 40 Mary Peak 40 Mary Peak 15 Ann Wolstencroft 15 James Wolstencroft 55 Jane Wolstencroft 13 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glenys Woosnam" <granny.woo@bigpond.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 10:15 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry - OLIVE > Hi Jane, > was wondering if you could look up a name for me PLEASE. > I am trying to find the birth of a JOSEPH WINSTANLEY PEAK/PEAKE/PEEK born > 6/4/1821? > his mother was MARY PEAK. > he has his father listed as JOSEPH but cannot find birth , marriage . > THANK YOU. > Glenys in West Aust.

Hi Elsie I'm not having much luck yet, there's lots of Robert Holding's out there! Can you give me details of the children you know so I can work back a little. I'm still trying to find Tamar in 1841. Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elsie Hemming" <ehemming@tadaust.org.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:27 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > Dear Jane, I accept your offer with gratitude. I can find nothing about > my g.grandfather, Robert Holding (Holden) who was married to my > g.grandmother Tamar Wroe) who died in 1845 in Eccles, Lancs. The children > lived with their married sister Mary Millward in a Naismyth foundry house > in > Patricroft. Tamar was born in 1801 > Robert seems to have flown the coop before his wife's death but I can find > no trace of him. His name is shown on my grandfather's wedding > certificate > as father of the groom but whether this means he was alive then, I do not > know. > Any light you can throw on this puzzle would be much appreciated. Elsie > Hemming > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 8:53 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > >> >> Hi Jane >> Sorry, but I have absolutely nothing on Israel & Eliza other than their >> names. >> I am just starting the foray into English certificates and are still >> awaiting them. >> Family stories go that they may have gone to Canada or America. >> >> Just wondering if they turn up in 1851, 1861 and maybe 1871 Census >> MariaNSW, Aus >>> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: >>> Thu, >>> 26 Jun 2008 23:26:48 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on >>> ancestry> > Hi Maria> > do you have a year of birth for Israel and >>> Eliza?> > Jane :o)> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria >>> Thomas" >>> <mnmthomas@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com>> Sent: >>> Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered >>> on ancestry> > > >> > Hi Jane> > Many thanks for your offer, if you >>> could >>> please check for the following > > family - maybe then I can work out >>> where they went :-)> >> > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 >>> at >>> Manchester (awaiting the > > cert).> > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at >>> Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > > DRURY - this family with >>> children arrived in Aust 1879.> >> > So I am trying to work out what >>> happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > > siblings.> >> > Many >>> thanks againMariaNSW, Aus> >> >> >> >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net! >> > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, > >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 >> > +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on > >> ancestry> > Hi All> > >> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if > >> anyone on the list >> > who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look > >> anything up >> > for them? 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I've found John and Lydia in 1851, but unfortunately the image is damaged, so I can't see who the family is below them, but looking at the places of birth and I think you can just make out an 'OL' It could very well be Israel and family. The other 3 names listed below (Bailey, Garner, and Pass) are not on the image. I'll send image off list. 1851 England Census 1851 England Census Name: John Bunton Age: 47 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1804 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Lydia Gender: Male Where born: Youlgreave, Derbyshire, England Civil Parish: Ardwick Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Decayed Sub registration district: Chorlton upon Medlock ED, institution, or vessel: 5j Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age 23 Mary Bailey 24 George Bunton 15 Harriett Bunton John Bunton 47 Lydia Bunton 45 Matilda Garner 14 John William Pass 1 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > Hi Jane > Many thanks for your offer, if you could please check for the following > family - maybe then I can work out where they went :-) > > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at Manchester (awaiting the > cert). > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > DRURY - this family with children arrived in Aust 1879. > > So I am trying to work out what happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > siblings. > > Many thanks againMariaNSW, Aus > > > >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on >> ancestry> > Hi All> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if >> anyone on the list who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look >> anything up for them? Or, if anyone can't find something (or someone), if >> they'd like any help.> > Jane :o)> > ps/ MEN snippets will resume as soon >> as my brother sends the next batch to me.> > > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, >> please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Never miss another e-mail with Hotmail on your mobile. > http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=343869 > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Found him again in 1871, still with his grandparents, again I'll send the image off list. 1871 England Census 1871 England Census Name: John Henry Ollive Age: 21 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Heath and Newton Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Disability: View Image Registration district: Manchester Sub registration district: Newton ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Household schedule number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Buxton 69 Lydia Buxton 67 John Henry Ollive 21 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > Hi Jane > Many thanks for your offer, if you could please check for the following > family - maybe then I can work out where they went :-) > > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at Manchester (awaiting the > cert). > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > DRURY - this family with children arrived in Aust 1879. > > So I am trying to work out what happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > siblings. > > Many thanks againMariaNSW, Aus > > > >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on >> ancestry> > Hi All> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if >> anyone on the list who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look >> anything up for them? Or, if anyone can't find something (or someone), if >> they'd like any help.> > Jane :o)> > ps/ MEN snippets will resume as soon >> as my brother sends the next batch to me.> > > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, >> please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Never miss another e-mail with Hotmail on your mobile. > http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=343869 > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've found John in 1861 with his grandparents in Yorkshire, no sign of his parents yet, I'm sending the image off list. 1861 England Census 1861 England Census Name: John Olive Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1849 Relation: Grandson Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Ecclesall Bierlow Ecclesiastical parish: Gilcar County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow Sub registration district: Ecclesall Bierlow ED, institution, or vessel: 19 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Buxton 59 Liddy Buxton 57 Izerell Olive 10 John Olive 12 Harriet Reed 22 William Reed 24 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > Hi Jane > Many thanks for your offer, if you could please check for the following > family - maybe then I can work out where they went :-) > > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at Manchester (awaiting the > cert). > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > DRURY - this family with children arrived in Aust 1879. > > So I am trying to work out what happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > siblings. > > Many thanks againMariaNSW, Aus > > > >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on >> ancestry> > Hi All> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if >> anyone on the list who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look >> anything up for them? Or, if anyone can't find something (or someone), if >> they'd like any help.> > Jane :o)> > ps/ MEN snippets will resume as soon >> as my brother sends the next batch to me.> > > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, >> please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _________________________________________________________________ > Never miss another e-mail with Hotmail on your mobile. > http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=343869 > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane Sorry, but I have absolutely nothing on Israel & Eliza other than their names. I am just starting the foray into English certificates and are still awaiting them. Family stories go that they may have gone to Canada or America. Just wondering if they turn up in 1851, 1861 and maybe 1871 Census MariaNSW, Aus > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:26:48 +0100> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry> > Hi Maria> > do you have a year of birth for Israel and Eliza?> > Jane :o)> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Maria Thomas" <mnmthomas@hotmail.com>> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 11:17 PM> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry> > > >> > Hi Jane> > Many thanks for your offer, if you could please check for the following > > family - maybe then I can work out where they went :-)> >> > Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at Manchester (awaiting the > > cert).> > Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza > > DRURY - this family with children arrived in Aust 1879.> >> > So I am trying to work out what happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had > > siblings.> >> > Many thanks againMariaNSW, Aus> >> >> >> >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, > >> 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on > >> ancestry> > Hi All> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if > >> anyone on the list who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look > >> anything up for them? Or, if anyone can't find something (or someone), if > >> they'd like any help.> > Jane :o)> > ps/ MEN snippets will resume as soon > >> as my brother sends the next batch to me.> > > > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, > >> please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > > >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > _________________________________________________________________> > Never miss another e-mail with Hotmail on your mobile.> > http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=343869> >> >> >> > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> >> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> > Other people can learn from them!> >> > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Are you paid what you're worth? Find out: SEEK Salary Centre http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fcareer%2Dresources%2Fsalary%2Dcentre%2F%3Ftracking%3Dsk%3Ahet%3Asc%3Anine%3A0%3Ahot%3Atext&_t=764565661&_r=OCT07_endtext_salary&_m=EXT

Hi Jane Many thanks for your offer, if you could please check for the following family - maybe then I can work out where they went :-) Israel & Eliza Dora OLIVE (nee BUXTON) m1849 at Manchester (awaiting the cert). Son - John Henry OLIVE b1850 at Manchester (another cert) m1871 to Eliza DRURY - this family with children arrived in Aust 1879. So I am trying to work out what happened to Israel & Eliza and if John had siblings. Many thanks againMariaNSW, Aus > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:10:58 +0100> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry> > Hi All> > While I'm waiting on certificates! I wonder if anyone on the list who doesn't have ancestry (uk) would like me to look anything up for them? Or, if anyone can't find something (or someone), if they'd like any help.> > Jane :o)> > ps/ MEN snippets will resume as soon as my brother sends the next batch to me.> > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list.> Other people can learn from them!> > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~> > > -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Never miss another e-mail with Hotmail on your mobile. http://www.livelife.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=343869

Hi I am new to this - having researched my tree for some 18 months I have acquired an addiction that has no cure! I live in Lincolnshire but have family members dotted around the country. My paternal grandparents came from Manchester - mainly the Chorlton registration district. I am interested in the Page family who lived-in Stretford Road, Hulme for a number of years. They were furniture dealers, French polishers and cabinet makers. They had a furniture shop in Stretford Road.for several years. The family members I am researching are; Charles Horace Page 1842-1911 Mirriam Page 1840-1918 Ann Page 1861 Mirriam Page 1863-1934 Walter Page 1865-1942 Amy Page-1867 Emily Page1869-1959 Arthur Page 1873-1929 James Page 1877 Alice Page 1879 Florence Page 1881 At the moment I would appreciate someone looking up the obituary for Charles Horace Page who died 12 Feb 1911 - he committed - I would like to know the details leading up to this event. Thanks Chris

Forwarded with the kind permission of the author Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:18 AM Subject: [DBY] MENTIONED IN WILL 1863 > Hi list, > here it is, your chance to get to know your cousins and in > laws.Hundreds of names, one of them must be yours. They had better it took > ages to transcribe! > > MENTIONED N WILL 1863 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > 127 Gerge GOODIE late of Chorlton upon Medlock now of Rowsley, Gent., > mentions; > friend Abraham WARD of Manchester smallware manufacturer > nephew George Goodie JOULE "gold watch" > John TAYLOR Solr. Bakewell > nephew George GOODIE "portrait of my father and mother" > sister Elizabeth LEES "portrait of Rev Richard FLETCHER" > nephew Rev John LEES > Sir Elkanah ARMITAGE Manchester > Thomas BARNES M.P Farnworth,Lancs > Rev. Henry ROGER Pres Lancs Indp College in Withington > John BEAUMONT Corporation St. Manchester woollen draper > James WAIN formerly of Stanton now of Bolton, Lancs. > nephew John Goodie HOLMES (to erect memorial to Jane or lose legacy) > sister Jane dec. > grand niece Caroline SWINDELL > grand niece Alice SWINDELL > Jane THOMPSON Rusholme Rd ,Chorlton upon Medlock, spinster and her sisters > Aliceand Ann THOMPSON > Elizabeth HOLLAND late servant > Rev Patrick THOMPSON Minister of Grosvenor St. Chapel, Piccadilly, > Manchester > Mary HARDY late servant of Rusholme > Richard FRECKINGHAM now in my service > nephew Henry James LEES > nephew James Goodie JOULE > cousin Robert WOOD Chesterfield > Mary Burgens ALSOP housekeeper > niece Ann BOTHAM > Brother John GOODIE and money lent to Samuel SEVERN of Rowsley > bro in law John LEES > Samuel HOLMES > brother Johns sons George James John William and daus. Sarah Jane and dau > Alice WOOD > sister Elizabeth wife of John LEES ,her children John, George Wyld, > William, > Henry James, Mary Ann, Alice WOOD, Jane Goodie. > James Smith WALTERS Surgeon ,Bakewell witness > John BOWN Clerk to Mr TAYLOR Solr, Bakewell > William PLATTS Indp Minister witness. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Goody what a happy bunch of 'geners. > > need a Will mikedec9@sky.com > > -- > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Forwarded with the kind permission of the author Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "mike spencer" <mikedecc9@sky.com> To: <derbysgen@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 9:28 PM Subject: [DBY] MENTIONED IN WILL 1863 > Hi list, > another moment of expectation. You know what to expect. > > MENTIONED IN WILL 1863 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > 124 Mary WRIGHT Derby ,spinster, mentions; > friend Rev John Lettis SHORT Bridport, Dorset, Dissenting Minister. > friend James BENNET Manchester corn dealer > niece Amelia Ann SHORT wife of Rev John SHORT > sister Sarah ROWE > niece Louisa HENLEY > niece Ellen Jane WRIGHT > niece Emma Natalia WRIGHT > nephew William ROWE > nephew George Thomas WRIGHT (mother Emma Natalia) > William Hy SALE Solr, Derby witness > Jane COWLEY Hill House Derby witness > made 1861 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > 125 John MIDGLEY Derby innkeeper, mentions; > brother Joseph railway foreman > friend William THORPE House agent, Kingston upon Hull > property in Nottingham > property Walker St, Hull > wife Mary > dau Sarah MIDGLEY > wifes niece Rosanna HIRSTHOUSE > Ann LUDLAM wife of George LUDLAM Matlock Bank farm lab. > Elizabeth DEVENPORT wife of Barker DEVENPORT Derby joiner > Gilbert DALLISON butcher Derby witness > George EASOM Chief Clerk in the District Registry of HM Court of Probate. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > 126 Samuel HIGGOTT Brizlincote Hall p. Stapenhill , farmer,mentions; > brother John, Newton Lane. farmer > Samuel HIGGOTT Rolleston, Staffs farmer > "my dear wife" > John WARRINGTON Newhall Park farmer > John STRETTON Wichnor, Staffs farmer > William STRETTON Heath House, Tutbury farmer > Thomas MOORCROFT Alkmonton farmer > Thomas STRETTON Grange Field Dbys > Samuel STRETTON Crop a top Derbys > ----------- TIPPER Cubley who married my cousin Elizabeth MOORCROFT > Godson the child of William HARVEY Newhall > Godson the child of George BRADFORD Bretby Mill > Abraham BASS Solr Burton upon Trent witness > John ORME servant to Mr BASS witness > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > don't worry the next Will is a world and his wife Will, everyone must have > some relation in that one. Keep looking. You wont be > disappointed.............I think > > need a Will mikedecc9@sky.com > > > > > -- > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~spire/Yesterday/index.htm > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DERBYSGEN-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, In the 1901 census I have rellies of the "Waugh st lot" listed at BISHOP ST Beswick.I suspect this street will have been quite near Waugh st.Some of the other streets on the enumerator's walk were :- HILLKIRK,ASHFORD,ROWLAND,DEVON,RECTORY, PALMERSTON,BIRLEY & VULCAN Many thanks, Cheers Kath