Hi Jane, I'm on the Ancestry site as I type - and looking at the next census page, the capital P's on there are not the same! Martin's occupation looks more like a T. ?Tripe? (Still no help!!) There are a couple of Thomas' on the same page for a T comparison. Pat W ----- Original Message ----- From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net To: Manchester Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Help with occupation Hi All Could someone help me with an occupation on the 1861 census, its John Martin b 1805 Manchester (Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2945; Folio: 124; Page: 19; GSU roll: 543054) It looks like pipe dresser, but I can't be sure, I've just checked the old occupations site and can't find anything on there. His son a couple of doors away has a shop, again of what looks like pipes? Jane :o)

Hi Pat Thank you so much. Yes, I have all 14 names and DOBs of John and Hannah BRIDG(E)FORD's children. So... here we go... Elizabeth 26 Sep 1784 Sarah 20 Aug 1786 (married Stephen MUNBY) Thomas 11 May 1788 Hannah 22 Aug 1790 Mary 28 Oct 1792 Ellen 3 Nov 1793 John 3 Aug 1795 William 22 Jan 1797 Frances 27 May 1798 Joseph 2 Feb 1800 Alice Hulme 15 Nov 1801 (married George BURGESS) Isabella 19 Feb 1804 (married John FLEMING) Samuel Hulme 25 Aug 1805 James Rawson 8 Mar 1807 Sarah, whose second husband was Stephen Munby, was my 2xggrandmother. Pat. please don't go to a lot of trouble over this. What I really need to do is go back to parish registers (Manchester Cathedral mainly). But I don't think they are yet on line. I can track some of the boys through the trade directories, but the girls are elusive. Thanks again Ruth

Hi All Could someone help me with an occupation on the 1861 census, its John Martin b 1805 Manchester (Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 2945; Folio: 124; Page: 19; GSU roll: 543054) It looks like pipe dresser, but I can't be sure, I've just checked the old occupations site and can't find anything on there. His son a couple of doors away has a shop, again of what looks like pipes? Jane :o)

Thank you Mike, for the details and maps today. If anyone has glassmaking ancestors who lived in Lancashire I would be interested to hear from you - we might be able to help each other. Sally in Yorkshire

Hi Did offer to do things for members saying they could contact me direct if necessary but now remember the whole point of eng-manchester is that everyone should get a chance to see things because they might suddenly find something they need, but didn't expect. Kind Regards Shelagh

This looks like her in 1901, but I can't find them in 1891, they may not be in England. I'll send you the image. Jane :o) 1901 England Census 1901 England Census Name: Maud McCarthy Age: 19 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Marion Gender: Female Where born: Ireland Civil Parish: Egham Ecclesiastical parish: Virginia Water Christchurch Town: Englefield Green and Virginia Water County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Windsor Sub registration district: Egham ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 73 Household Members: Name Age Ernest McCarthy 14 Marion McCarthy 39 Maud McCarthy 19 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 1166; Folio: 28; Page: 14.

And again in 1901. I'll send image off list. Jane :o) 1901 England Census 1901 England Census Name: John H Fouldes Age: 20 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Fred Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: South Manchester Ecclesiastical parish: Greenheys St Clement County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 182 Household Members: Name Age Edith M Fouldes 25 Florence M Fouldes 13 Frank L Fouldes 10 Fred Fouldes 48 John H Fouldes 20 Mary Fouldes 49 Mary Williamson 80 Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 3703; Folio: 68; Page: 28.

This looks like the family in 1891, I'll send the image off list. Jane :o) 1891 England Census 1891 England Census Name: John H Foulds Age: 10 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881 Relation: Son Father's Name: Fred Mother's Name: Mary Gender: Male Where born: Hulme Manchester, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Hulme Ecclesiastical parish: St Paul County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: Chorlton Sub registration district: Hulme ED, institution, or vessel: 58 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Florence M Foulds 3 Frank L Foulds 6/12 John H Foulds 10 Mary Foulds 72 Edith M Loulds 15 Ernest Wm Loulds 12 Fred Loulds 38 Mary Loulds 39 ----- Original Message ----- From: "shawfamilytree" <shawfamilytree@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry > > Jane > I filled in a few blank spaces below, sorry > > Maggi > > Hi Maggie > Do you have any dates? places? > Jane :o) > ----- Original Message ----- > Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:42 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] > > >> FOULDS Frederick born 1852 at Todmorden, Yorkshire and married 1875 to >> GREENWOOD Mary born 1852 Bacup, Lancashire > Son of above >> FOULDS John Herbert born to above in 1880 at Hulme, Manchester and >> married > between 1911 & 1925 to >> MACCARTHY Maud born 1882 in Clonmel or Fethard, Tipperary to Charles & > Marion MacCarthy and married in 1911 to >> MANN William W (no details yet) > >> WOODCOCK Maud born unknown but married to John Herbert Foulds in 1902 at > Chorlton, Manchester > > >> >> Many thanks in anticipation >> >> Maggi >> > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1527 - Release Date: 30/06/2008 > 6:07 PM > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Mike May I have a copy of that too? My 2xgr grandfather was a glass maker in ancoats. Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:17 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Glassmakers > Hi Sally, > I have sent you map sections showing the Flint Glassworks in Ancoats in > 1844 > and in 1894. I use to work on the same street that Flint was on. But this > glassworks is a bit before my time :)) > > Notice they are built on the side of a Rochdale canal bank. The company I > worked for was built the same way. The glass company could ship goods by > barge. > > All my best > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sally Haden" <haden.sally@googlemail.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:56 AM >> As I said before, thanks to help from people on this list I have been >> able to find all of the c.1870's street locations for the WALTON >> family in Hulme that I have been researching, plus a couple of the >> glassworks that they will have been associated with. So thanks again >> for that. <snipped> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Workhouse site is wonderful and gives you a great deal of information on life there and the conditions but it will not give any personal information such as discharge, etc. Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "The Quineys" <pquiney@post.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:08 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Manchester Workhouse Market St > Have you tried ... > http://www.workhouses.org.uk/ > From the left hand menu select (in order!) ... > "Workhouse Locations" > "English Poor Law Unions" > "Lancashire" > "Manchester" > > It provides historical maps, descriptions based on comtemporary > accounts, historical line drawings, black/white photographs, present day > photographs and ... right at the end, links to finding info about staff, > inmates, locations of remaining records and ideas for further reading. > > From my (limited) experience, very few records remain other than > censuses. However, follow some of the links and see what *is* available > and you might be lucky :-) > > Hope this helps > Heather > > > > Roy and Betty Mullett wrote: >> Hi Lee >> If you are talking about the Crumpsall workhouse you use to be able to >> email >> the Manchester County Council and they knew there. >> http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/ Mind you it is a few years >> since I inquired about my Grandfather but then they were most helpful. >> Tell >> them you are in Australia (I am in Canada). It doesn't hurt. >> Good luck. >> Betty >> Canada >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Lee Deutrom" <ldeutrom@ihug.com.au> >> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:37 PM >> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Manchester Workhouse Market St >> >> >> >>> Hi All >>> >>> I have found both my 2x & 3x ggdads in the Manchester Workhouse in 1871. >>> Does anyone know if the admissions / discharge registers are still in >>> existence and, if so, does anyone know of anyone who could check them >>> for >>> me? >>> >>> blessings >>> >>> Lee >>> >>> Melbourne Australia >>> >>> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Heather, There are a number of us from the US who would not mind doing a lookup. If you contact me off list, I would be happy to take a look for you. Bev W ************** Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)

Hi Ruth, I found a Cheetwood house in Cheetwood north from Strangeways Prison and Manchester cathedral. Market street is south of the cathedral. Its a very large home . If you think this estate is to large, maybe there is a smaller place named Cheetwood in the Cheetwood area. But unfortunately its not marked on the map. I have sent you these map sections dated 1844. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <RuthGenda@aol.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 1:24 PM. > > Please would someone with access to the Manchester 1841 Census look up > John > BRIDG(E)FORD, a nursery and seedsman, last sighted in Pigot's 1821-22 > trades > directory living in a house 'Cheetwood' with his business at 104 Market > Street, Manchester. <snip>

Hi Lee If you are talking about the Crumpsall workhouse you use to be able to email the Manchester County Council and they knew there. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/libraries/arls/ Mind you it is a few years since I inquired about my Grandfather but then they were most helpful. Tell them you are in Australia (I am in Canada). It doesn't hurt. Good luck. Betty Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Deutrom" <ldeutrom@ihug.com.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Manchester Workhouse Market St > Hi All > > I have found both my 2x & 3x ggdads in the Manchester Workhouse in 1871. > Does anyone know if the admissions / discharge registers are still in > existence and, if so, does anyone know of anyone who could check them for > me? > > blessings > > Lee > > Melbourne Australia > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maggie, Would you have information on the Shaw family in Oldham?? My 3ggrandfather, Joshua Heap was born to Laurence and Mally Shaw Heap in Oldham in 1815.? Thanks, Bev W -----Original Message----- From: shawfamilytree <shawfamilytree@iinet.net.au> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 10:30 am Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookups offered on ancestry Jane I filled in a few blank spaces below, sorry Maggi Hi Maggie Do you have any dates? places? Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 9:42 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] > FOULDS Frederick born 1852 at Todmorden, Yorkshire and married 1875 to > GREENWOOD Mary born 1852 Bacup, Lancashire Son of above > FOULDS John Herbert born to above in 1880 at Hulme, Manchester and married between 1911 & 1925 to > MACCARTHY Maud born 1882 in Clonmel or Fethard, Tipperary to Charles & Marion MacCarthy and married in 1911 to > MANN William W (no details yet) > WOODCOCK Maud born unknown but married to John Herbert Foulds in 1902 at Chorlton, Manchester > > Many thanks in anticipation > > Maggi > -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.3/1527 - Release Date: 30/06/2008 6:07 PM ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a long shot, I know but... maybe Ancestry could help here. Please would someone with access to the Manchester 1841 Census look up John BRIDG(E)FORD, a nursery and seedsman, last sighted in Pigot's 1821-22 trades directory living in a house 'Cheetwood' with his business at 104 Market Street, Manchester. If he was still living in 1841 he would have been aged about 78+. His wife was named Hannah and she was roughly the same age. John and Hannah had 14 children so its possible that if either were still living they might be living with one or other of them. I do have the 1841 Manchester CDs but not having used them for ages can't seem to get them to work for me. Any help with any of this would be seriously appreciated. Thanks Ruth

Bowen wrote: >Hi > >Did offer to do things for members saying they could contact me direct >if necessary but now remember the whole point of eng-manchester is that >everyone should get a chance to see things because they might suddenly >find something they need, but didn't expect. > > Yes! So let's share things on the list, rather than writing to each other privately (unless it's private and personal correspondence, of course). Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Jane, was it you that was asking about glassmaking in Ancoats a couple or more years ago? I have sent you the map sections. All my best Mike Morris 'Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Glassmakers > Hi Mike > > May I have a copy of that too? My 2xgr grandfather was a glass maker in > ancoats. > > Jane :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 3:17 PM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Glassmakers > > >> Hi Sally, >> I have sent you map sections showing the Flint Glassworks in Ancoats in >> 1844 >> and in 1894. I use to work on the same street that Flint was on. But this >> glassworks is a bit before my time :)) >> >> Notice they are built on the side of a Rochdale canal bank. The company I >> worked for was built the same way. The glass company could ship goods by >> barge. >> >> All my best >> Mike Morris >> Toronto Canada >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sally Haden" <haden.sally@googlemail.com> >> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:56 AM >>> As I said before, thanks to help from people on this list I have been >>> able to find all of the c.1870's street locations for the WALTON >>> family in Hulme that I have been researching, plus a couple of the >>> glassworks that they will have been associated with. So thanks again >>> for that. <snipped> >> >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Hello again folks, After posting my rather long story about the WALTONs and asking for any help with Manchester glassworks, I realized I could have added my email address... It is haden.sally@googlemail.com Thanks Sally in Yorkshire

Hi Sally, I have sent you map sections showing the Flint Glassworks in Ancoats in 1844 and in 1894. I use to work on the same street that Flint was on. But this glassworks is a bit before my time :)) Notice they are built on the side of a Rochdale canal bank. The company I worked for was built the same way. The glass company could ship goods by barge. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sally Haden" <haden.sally@googlemail.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2008 4:56 AM > As I said before, thanks to help from people on this list I have been > able to find all of the c.1870's street locations for the WALTON > family in Hulme that I have been researching, plus a couple of the > glassworks that they will have been associated with. So thanks again > for that. <snipped>