If you go here http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/ type Robert McKee into search there are 4 buried in Manchester, 2 in the 1890's Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAGPIE" <magpie@la.shockware.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:21 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] McKEE, BARON 1882 - 1905 > Dear list members, > > {Note to Lynne - I used a different email than I signed up with when I > first > sent this message, hope it didn't add confusion.) > > I have been watching and learning, then searching from information you > have > posted. It has been a great help. Thank you. > However, I do have a family I am searching for more info on in > Manchester - > and decided I should bring them to your attention, perhaps you have > suggestions: > > I have 2 generations of McKee's in Manchester (moved from Armagh Ireland > > Liverpool > Manchester) > > Robert McKEE b. 1853 Ireland immigrated 1876 to England. Occupation - > Joiner(carpenter ?) > m. 20 Oct 1877 Armagh, Ireland > Ann Jane Hutchinson b. 1852 Ireland immigrated 1877 to England > 6 Children: Sarah Jane b. 1879 Ireland > William b. 1880 Lancashire, Gorton, England > Robert Clarke b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Maggie b. 1885 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Clara A. b. 1887 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Agnes Edith b. 1890 Lancashire, Manchester, England > I have located this family in Lancashire on the 1901, 1891 and 1881 > census's. > Where is Gorton? Would some information be available in the carpenter's > guild? Did the parents die/buried in Manchester? Did some of the other > siblings remain in Manchester or England? > > Robert Clarke McKEE b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England d. 1949 > Alberta, Canada > m. 1903 Manchester, England(located M record for RCMcKee in BMD Index > Apr-June 1903 - no copy yet) > Mary BARON b. 1885 England d. 1957 Seattle, Washington > 5 Children: Constance Mary b. 1903 Manchester d. 1904 PRestwich, England > (death in BMD Index) > Robert Baron b. 1905 Manchester, England > Robert C., Mary and Robert B., immigrated to Canada in 1905 - although > they > did live for awhile in North Dakota. > Wilfred > Thomas > Clara > Not sure where in England Mary Baron was born. > > Perhaps you have suggestions, or recognize some names.... > > Ellen Conrad > Alberta, Canada > magpie@la.shockware.com > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Mike. This is terrific information as it would seem these streets don't exist anymore. My cousin tells me that large sections of the city were razed and whole new areas of multi-storey housing commission flats built. This was in the 70's or 80's. Do you have a program with the map of Manchester? I put that into google but didn't really get anything comprehensive. What I would like is a hard copy of the map to get the overall perspective. I did Google 'Tootal Silk Ties' and found this (below) which explains the T.B.L. shares left to my grandfather by his mother which did cause a bit of a ruckus! If there was any wealth associated with these shares we don't know what happened to it! Again, thanks for your help. Kathryn. The Tootal Building Joseph Gibbons Sankey designed this building for Tootal, Broadhurst, Lee & Company in 1898. It stands four storeys high, dominating the west side of Oxford Street with its red brick and banded fawn-coloured terra cotta. The ground floor and basement are rusticated. At either end of the frontage are lantern topped gable turrets. This was the home of Tootal Ties for many years. It has seven central bays separated by Corinthian columns. On its southern side it backs onto the Rochdale Canal flight of locks, hidden from the throng of passers-by above by a high parapetted bridge.

Hello Ellen, Have any of your McKees spelled their surname....MAGEE......Or MCGEE? Regards, Joan in USA On Jul 4, 2008, at 10:21 AM, MAGPIE wrote: > Dear list members, > > {Note to Lynne - I used a different email than I signed up with when > I first > sent this message, hope it didn't add confusion.) > > I have been watching and learning, then searching from information > you have > posted. It has been a great help. Thank you. > However, I do have a family I am searching for more info on in > Manchester - > and decided I should bring them to your attention, perhaps you have > suggestions: > > I have 2 generations of McKee's in Manchester (moved from Armagh > Ireland > > Liverpool > Manchester) > > Robert McKEE b. 1853 Ireland immigrated 1876 to England. Occupation - > Joiner(carpenter ?) > m. 20 Oct 1877 Armagh, Ireland > Ann Jane Hutchinson b. 1852 Ireland immigrated 1877 to England > 6 Children: Sarah Jane b. 1879 Ireland > William b. 1880 Lancashire, Gorton, England > Robert Clarke b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Maggie b. 1885 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Clara A. b. 1887 Lancashire, Manchester, England > Agnes Edith b. 1890 Lancashire, Manchester, England > I have located this family in Lancashire on the 1901, 1891 and 1881 > census's. > Where is Gorton? Would some information be available in the > carpenter's > guild? Did the parents die/buried in Manchester? Did some of the > other > siblings remain in Manchester or England? > > Robert Clarke McKEE b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England d. 1949 > Alberta, Canada > m. 1903 Manchester, England(located M record for RCMcKee in BMD Index > Apr-June 1903 - no copy yet) > Mary BARON b. 1885 England d. 1957 Seattle, Washington > 5 Children: Constance Mary b. 1903 Manchester d. 1904 PRestwich, > England > (death in BMD Index) > Robert Baron b. 1905 Manchester, England > Robert C., Mary and Robert B., immigrated to Canada in 1905 - > although they > did live for awhile in North Dakota. > Wilfred > Thomas > Clara > Not sure where in England Mary Baron was born. > > Perhaps you have suggestions, or recognize some names.... > > Ellen Conrad > Alberta, Canada > magpie@la.shockware.com > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Hi Mike, Do you have an electronic version of a map that covers these areas? Kathryn C. ________________________________ From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Courtney, Kathryn Sent: Fri 7/4/2008 12:13 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] mid-to-late 1800 Manchester Maps I'm looking for good resolution map images that include the following areas, near where Piccadilly Station is now. I have fuzzy hard copy printouts that I got from a quick visit to the Manchester Central Library a few weeks ago, but they are very hard to read. Many of these address were within blocks of each other, but I believe they have all been torn down. My ancestors lived there in the mid to late 1800s. I would also love to find any images of this area around that time. I've search randomly through the local images collection online, but I'm not very familiar with the geography, so I don't know what to search for other than the street names below. Clemson's Buildings 26-27 Tame St. Newton's Buildings/Martin Street 35 Ancoats Hollow 7 Bailey Street 23 Nield St. 9-15 Station St. Thanks for any help, Kathryn C. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

thank you so much, Jane ----- Original Message ----- From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 5:00 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lookup CONROY from freebmd www.freebmd.org.uk Sarah Conroy Mar qtr 1841 Manchester vol 20 page 511 Margaret Conroy Mar qtr 1842 Chorlton vol 20 page 269 Martha Conroy Jun qtr 1842 Manchester vol 20 page 251 You can order certificates online http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "PB Delery" <dmjjsmecm@carolina.rr.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:30 AM > Would some kind soul check on Ancestry UK for a female birth for me.> > Sarah M(possibly Margaret) or M. Sarah CONROY > supposedly born March 4, 1842 in Manchester, England >> Parents: > James Conroy and Mary Elizabeth (Betty) Hoctor(er), both born Ireland> > TIA > Penny

Thanks for the direction Jane. I have now looked at the site. Would the same information be available through IFHF - or should I purchase these from Manchester City Council? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of arcmikmum@talktalk.net Sent: July 4, 2008 8:29 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] McKEE, BARON 1882 - 1905 If you go here http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/ type Robert McKee into search there are 4 buried in Manchester, 2 in the 1890's Jane :o) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Noel Luke wrote: >Thanks Lynne, you do a great job managing this list. > Many thanks, Noel. <blush> Best wishes, Lynne

Joan, Not to my knowledge. However, it could be misspelled either way. Ellen -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Joan Lyons Sent: July 4, 2008 10:48 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] McKEE, BARON 1882 - 1905 Hello Ellen, Have any of your McKees spelled their surname....MAGEE......Or MCGEE? Regards, Joan in USA

Hi Kathryn, I remembered that bridge on the opposite side from the Palace theatre. Around the corner on Gloucester street was a hospital, I think it was for expectant mothers and a few doors from the hospital was the famous Ritz ballroom. In the 1950's coffee houses were becoming very popular with the young crowd along with their juke boxes. There was such a coffee house to the south of the bridge,. I had many a coffee with my friends in that place. Another memory of that bridge was walking from Hulme after a night out, I had met my friends straight from work in Ancoats. I had changed into clean clothes. Two plain clothed detectives, hustled me from the bus stop on the bridge and asked me to show them what I had in my bag. Well I mean............ the indignity of it all, me showing them my dirty coveralls in front of a packed bus queue. In several of my past letters I have mentioned names of places. I do this to show how common it was for people to walk on a regular occasion what might appear to be a great distance. I had walked many times from Hulme into Piccadilly and beyond to Victoria railway station as a young kid. Also walked home a number of times from Piccadilly to Middleton when I was in the forces and the all night bus had just left Piccadilly Gardens. The next one was an hour later and I knew I would be in Middleton in just over an hour thus saving the price of a double bus fare. Of course I have also walked this route dragging my foot along the curb for guidance in the pea soup fogs we use to experience. The buses could not run in this type weather. Yes I did get many a bruise from an unexpected lamp post. The maps I have were donated to me by many kind list members so I could help people locate an address. I have chewed (well worn) paper maps and maps on disks. I don't have one map that covers all of Manchester or Salford, I have many maps to peruse. My maps don't have street directories, I use a magnifying glass and my memory. In some cases such as your Lothair street I had to check the location first through a search of the 1881 census in Manchester. I found it did not come under the Manchester census, it came under Chorlton on Medlock census. All my best Mike Mike Morris Toronto Canada ex Manchester ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathryn Nauta" <nautakat@iprimus.com.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com>; "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:46 PM > > Do you have a program with the map of Manchester? > I put that into google but didn't really get anything comprehensive. What > I would like is a hard copy of the map to get the overall perspective. > > The Tootal Building > Joseph Gibbons Sankey designed this building for Tootal, Broadhurst, Lee & > Company in 1898. It stands four storeys high, dominating the west side of > Oxford Street with its red brick and banded fawn-coloured terra cotta. The > ground floor and basement are rusticated. At either end of the frontage > are lantern topped gable turrets. This was the home of Tootal Ties for > many years. It has seven central bays separated by Corinthian columns. On > its southern side it backs onto the Rochdale Canal flight of locks, hidden > from the throng of passers-by above by a high parapetted bridge. <snipped> >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Courtney, Kathryn" <KCOURTNE@housing.uiuc.edu> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 12:38 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] FRAME PENDLEBURY COOKE TAYLOR DAGNALL. Park, Ogilvie,Lothair Sts. Hello Kathryn, Kathryn Courtney ________________________________ Hi both Kathryns. I am also having difficulty with the common TAYLOR name. My brick wall is William TAYLOR born c. 1855 in Manchester to Richard TAYLOR and Mary (HARRISON ?) TAYLOR. I have sent many requests to Manchester Register Office for this birth, without success. A friend in Manchester has also searched for it. I can't connect my g. grandfatherWilliam to his parents without verification of his mothers maiden name.The family came from Warrington and we have searched there too. Any suggestions from any lister would be appreciated. Veronica (nee TAYLOR) in Ontario. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

from freebmd www.freebmd.org.uk Sarah Conroy Mar qtr 1841 Manchester vol 20 page 511 Margaret Conroy Mar qtr 1842 Chorlton vol 20 page 269 Martha Conroy Jun qtr 1842 Manchester vol 20 page 251 You can order certificates online http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "PB Delery" <dmjjsmecm@carolina.rr.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 04, 2008 3:30 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lookup > Would some kind soul check on Ancestry UK for a female birth for me. > > Sarah M(possibly Margaret) or M. Sarah CONROY > supposedly born March 4, 1842 in Manchester, England > > Parents: > James Conroy and Mary Elizabeth (Betty) Hoctor(er), both born Ireland > > TIA > Penny > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jean Thank you so very much for this info, and no I wasn't aware they were on family search, and I have spent years trawling through the site, must of missed this family. Or more likely as the info is new to me I haven't looked yet. This will keep me busy today Thank you MariaNSW, Aus > Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 10:17:35 +0000> From: jean.thatcher@btinternet.com> To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] OLIVE, DRURY, ROBINSON, TIPPING from Manchester> > Dear Maria, > These are the births I found but I suspect that you might already have them. _________________________________________________________________ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT

Dear list members, {Note to Lynne - I used a different email than I signed up with when I first sent this message, hope it didn't add confusion.) I have been watching and learning, then searching from information you have posted. It has been a great help. Thank you. However, I do have a family I am searching for more info on in Manchester - and decided I should bring them to your attention, perhaps you have suggestions: I have 2 generations of McKee's in Manchester (moved from Armagh Ireland > Liverpool > Manchester) Robert McKEE b. 1853 Ireland immigrated 1876 to England. Occupation - Joiner(carpenter ?) m. 20 Oct 1877 Armagh, Ireland Ann Jane Hutchinson b. 1852 Ireland immigrated 1877 to England 6 Children: Sarah Jane b. 1879 Ireland William b. 1880 Lancashire, Gorton, England Robert Clarke b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England Maggie b. 1885 Lancashire, Manchester, England Clara A. b. 1887 Lancashire, Manchester, England Agnes Edith b. 1890 Lancashire, Manchester, England I have located this family in Lancashire on the 1901, 1891 and 1881 census's. Where is Gorton? Would some information be available in the carpenter's guild? Did the parents die/buried in Manchester? Did some of the other siblings remain in Manchester or England? Robert Clarke McKEE b. 1882 Lancashire, Manchester, England d. 1949 Alberta, Canada m. 1903 Manchester, England(located M record for RCMcKee in BMD Index Apr-June 1903 - no copy yet) Mary BARON b. 1885 England d. 1957 Seattle, Washington 5 Children: Constance Mary b. 1903 Manchester d. 1904 PRestwich, England (death in BMD Index) Robert Baron b. 1905 Manchester, England Robert C., Mary and Robert B., immigrated to Canada in 1905 - although they did live for awhile in North Dakota. Wilfred Thomas Clara Not sure where in England Mary Baron was born. Perhaps you have suggestions, or recognize some names.... Ellen Conrad Alberta, Canada magpie@la.shockware.com

I'm looking for good resolution map images that include the following areas, near where Piccadilly Station is now. I have fuzzy hard copy printouts that I got from a quick visit to the Manchester Central Library a few weeks ago, but they are very hard to read. Many of these address were within blocks of each other, but I believe they have all been torn down. My ancestors lived there in the mid to late 1800s. I would also love to find any images of this area around that time. I've search randomly through the local images collection online, but I'm not very familiar with the geography, so I don't know what to search for other than the street names below. Clemson's Buildings 26-27 Tame St. Newton's Buildings/Martin Street 35 Ancoats Hollow 7 Bailey Street 23 Nield St. 9-15 Station St. Thanks for any help, Kathryn C.

Hello Kathryn, My name is Kathryn too! :) My TAYLOR family is from Manchester, but I haven't yet been able to trace them back earlier than 1861 because of how common their names are. They are: James TAYLOR b. c1831 in Manchester his wife Catherine b. c1837in Manchester and sons John b. 1858 and William b. 1856 in Manchester In 1861, they were living in Ancoats Hollow. In 1871, they were at 7 Bailey St. Any connection? Kathryn Courtney ________________________________ From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Kathryn Nauta Sent: Wed 7/2/2008 8:26 PM To: ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] FRAME PENDLEBURY COOKE TAYLOR DAGNALL. Park, Ogilvie,Lothair Sts. Hi everyone, I'm new to this list and am researching: FRAME (Chorlton upon Medlock, Old Trafford) PENDLEBURY (Worsley, Leigh parish, Bolton) COOKE (Walkden) TAYLOR (Kearsley, Prestwich, Ringley, Moss Side) DAGNALL (Moss Side) Wondering if anyone can help me with the following streets: PARK STREET (there are SEVEN in Manchester! A child was born a few months later in Chorlton on Medlock so this might be relevant but I don't know the location of the postcodes.) OGILVIE ST Chorlton on Medlock, connections to this street in the late 1870's, possibly been renamed as I can only find one in London. LOTHAIR ST again Chorlton on Medlock, through the 1880's, but can't find it now. And last question: does anyone know anything about the TOOTALS COMPANY, in Manchester but not in existence any longer. Cheers, Kathryn (now in Melbourne, Australia but lived at 100 Parkfield St Rusholme until 1960) ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Noel You wrote: >I have been planning a visit to Central Library and the Town Hall during >my visit to Manchester from August 7-10. Does anyone know if both >locations will be open during that period? Also, Lynne, are there any >FH Events occurring on those dates in Lancashire? > I've e-mailed MCL to ask about the possible closing and as soon as I hear anything I'll report back to the list. There are no events scheduled for that period, but it's early days. I'll try to get the events list for August out a little early. If you don't see anything by 20 July, give me a nudge. Best wishes, Lynne

Would some kind soul check on Ancestry UK for a female birth for me. Sarah M(possibly Margaret) or M. Sarah CONROY supposedly born March 4, 1842 in Manchester, England Parents: James Conroy and Mary Elizabeth (Betty) Hoctor(er), both born Ireland TIA Penny

Thanks Lynne, you do a great job managing this list. Noel Luke Phoenix, AZ -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:33 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] GMCRO and Central Library Hi Noel You wrote: >I have been planning a visit to Central Library and the Town Hall during >my visit to Manchester from August 7-10. Does anyone know if both >locations will be open during that period? Also, Lynne, are there any >FH Events occurring on those dates in Lancashire? > I've e-mailed MCL to ask about the possible closing and as soon as I hear anything I'll report back to the list. There are no events scheduled for that period, but it's early days. I'll try to get the events list for August out a little early. If you don't see anything by 20 July, give me a nudge. Best wishes, Lynne ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Pat Bloomin ancesters playing hide and seek again! Me and 1861 don't mix very well, I'm sure half my ancesters were partying at a secret location together! Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] JOHNSON 1861 > > I've been searching, but no luck yet Jane! > Pat W > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net > To: Manchester > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:55 PM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] JOHNSON 1861 > > > Hi All > > I'm struggling to find the following family in 1861. > > William JOHNSON b 1806 Yorkshire > Ann b 1811 Ireland > William b 1831 Manchester (in 1861 he's with his wife Susannah at 5 New > Islington, Ancoats) > Ellen b 1833 Manchester > Robert b 1835 Manchester > John b 1837 Manchester (in 1861 him and his wife Sarah are lodging with > his > brother William in Ancoats) > Sarah b 1840 Manchester (in 1861 she's in Duckinfield with husband William > WALMSLEY) > Agnes b 1842 Manchester > > In 1841 the family are at 19 Woodward St, Ancoats, Williams occupation is > brewer > In 1851 they are on Short St, St Jude district, again Williams occupation > is > brewer > > I know where children William, John and Sarah are, but where are the > others?? There's a few possibles for Robert. > > I think William snr is dead by 1871 as in 1871 there is an Anna Dobson b > 1811 widow Dublin, living with William and Susannah at 7 Horne St, St > Jude > district, she's down as the mother-in-law, but I suspect she's Williams > mum > Ann. I have no idea yet what part of Yorkshire William is from and so I'm > really hoping he is still alive in 1861. > > Anyone help? > > Jane :o) > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've been searching, but no luck yet Jane! Pat W ----- Original Message ----- From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net To: Manchester Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:55 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] JOHNSON 1861 Hi All I'm struggling to find the following family in 1861. William JOHNSON b 1806 Yorkshire Ann b 1811 Ireland William b 1831 Manchester (in 1861 he's with his wife Susannah at 5 New Islington, Ancoats) Ellen b 1833 Manchester Robert b 1835 Manchester John b 1837 Manchester (in 1861 him and his wife Sarah are lodging with his brother William in Ancoats) Sarah b 1840 Manchester (in 1861 she's in Duckinfield with husband William WALMSLEY) Agnes b 1842 Manchester In 1841 the family are at 19 Woodward St, Ancoats, Williams occupation is brewer In 1851 they are on Short St, St Jude district, again Williams occupation is brewer I know where children William, John and Sarah are, but where are the others?? There's a few possibles for Robert. I think William snr is dead by 1871 as in 1871 there is an Anna Dobson b 1811 widow Dublin, living with William and Susannah at 7 Horne St, St Jude district, she's down as the mother-in-law, but I suspect she's Williams mum Ann. I have no idea yet what part of Yorkshire William is from and so I'm really hoping he is still alive in 1861. Anyone help? Jane :o)