Hi Ruth, Smithy Door and Old Shambles were still around in 1844. I will send you a map of these streets. Actually Smithy Door was just across the street from Old Shambles. They were both market areas. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: <RuthGenda@aol.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:42 AM > I think it was me who started this trail. I am searching for more/any > information > > Just to fill out John's story - he started his commercial life as a > hairdresser, 6 Old Shambles, in 1794 Scholes Directory and in Scholes 1797 > he was a hair-dresser, seedsman and florist, 2 Smithy-door! None of > these addresses mean anything to me <snipped>

Done,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Mike Morris ----- Original Message ----- From: <alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 4:07 AM > Thank you for your kind offer. If you could send the map showing Baslow > Street to me at: > alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com <snip>

Hi Kath, Do you have access to Phillips Park records? I'm interested in Eliza SHADWELL (nee DEAYTON) who died in September 1886 and is buried in Phillips Park. Can you help? Carol from Warners Bay, New South Wales, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: <k.wharton4@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 9:08 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Look up offer Hi All Sorry not been on for a while, I missed the Philips park thread can i help with a look up for who????

Mike Thank you for your kind offer. If you could send the map showing Baslow Street to me at: alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com I'd be eternally grateful! Thanks! Val Taylor Mike Morris wrote: > Baslow street is on the north east border of Ardwick. My map dated 1894 > places it in Beswick. I will send you this map section. > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > >> Going off the details on the 1901 census entry I found, this family were >> living at 113 Baslow Street, Ardwick St. Silas Ecclesiastical District. >> Robert is a Grocer's Assistant. >> >> Does anyone know where this would be in Ardwick? <snip> >> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM > > > >

Kath, There are several McKEE named people at Phillips Park, if you are willing and able to look them up. I understand that we'll learn the grave #,and whom is buried together. Do they have headstone information somewhere? They are: Burial records site: > > Robert McKee 1893 Phillips Park Cemetery > > Robert McKee 1894 Phillips Park Cemetery > > Ann McKee 1877 Phillips Park Cemetery Ann McKee 1873 Phillips Park Cemetery Hannah S McKee 1885 Phillips Park Cemetery Mary Ann McKee 1940 Phillips Park Cemetery > > Deaths on Freebmd: > > Robert McKee aged 40 Dec qtr 1893 Manchester vol 8d page 162 > > Robert McKee aged 1 Jun qtr 1894 Manchester vol 8d page 142 Ann McKee aged 62 Jun qtr 1873 Manchester vol 8d page 174 Ann McKee aged 34 Mar qtr 1877 Manchester vol 8d page 171 I am fairly certain Robert McKee aged 40 died 1893, would be the correct one I am searching for. That would be the priority look up. However the rest, I am curious if/how they are related to him. His wife was Ann (Jane) McKee (nee Hutchinson)b. 1852 Ireland, and her last child (by my records) was born in 1890. So the 1877 and 1873 Ann's must not be her. Ellen Conrad Alberta, Canada magpie@la.shockware.com -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of k.wharton4@ntlworld.com Sent: July 6, 2008 5:09 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Look up offer Hi All Sorry not been on for a while, I missed the Philips park thread can i help with a look up for who???? Kath

Also worth noting, there is a transcription error below. Mary Ann Watson is actually Mary Ann Thornton. ________________________________ From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com on behalf of Courtney, Kathryn Sent: Mon 7/7/2008 7:26 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HENRY BARKER Hello Ann, If the Henry on 1841 census below is yours, you might be interested to know he is also living in the same town in 1851, but lists his birthplace differently. Here is the info from the 1851 census. I'll send images off-list. Henry Barker Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Betty Gender: Male Where born: Burgy, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Whalley Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Burnley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 20 Surf Street Occupation: formerly Lime Burner Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: Burnley Household Members: Betty Barker 52 Henry Barker 52 Thomas Sellers 20 Thomas Thornton 21 Mary Ann Watson 19 Nancy Watson 21 Kathryn Courtney -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shorland3 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:15 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HENRY BARKER Hi Ann, This is the first Henry BARKER listed for the 1841 census in Ancestry.com with the information you provided - Name: Henry Barker Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Whalley Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division) County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: East Gate Occupation: Lime Burner Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: Burnley Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Barker 40 Henry Barker 43 Mary Thornton 9 Thomas Thornton 11 I hope this is your Henry? Kind Regards, Diane SYSNEY NSW -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Barker Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 9:38 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] HENRY BARKER Dear Listers, Would some kind person with access to Ancestry please look up an entry for me? 1841 England Census Name: Henry Barker DOB: 1798 - Lancashire England Residence: Lancashire England I would appreciate it greatly. Regards Ann ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ann, If the Henry on 1841 census below is yours, you might be interested to know he is also living in the same town in 1851, but lists his birthplace differently. Here is the info from the 1851 census. I'll send images off-list. Henry Barker Age: 52 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1799 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Betty Gender: Male Where born: Burgy, Yorkshire, England Civil Parish: Whalley Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter Town: Burnley County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 20 Surf Street Occupation: formerly Lime Burner Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: Burnley Household Members: Betty Barker 52 Henry Barker 52 Thomas Sellers 20 Thomas Thornton 21 Mary Ann Watson 19 Nancy Watson 21 Kathryn Courtney -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shorland3 Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:15 AM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] HENRY BARKER Hi Ann, This is the first Henry BARKER listed for the 1841 census in Ancestry.com with the information you provided - Name: Henry Barker Age: 43 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1798 Gender: Male Where born: Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Whalley Hundred: Blackburn (Higher Division) County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: East Gate Occupation: Lime Burner Registration district: Burnley Sub registration district: Burnley Household Members: Name Age Elizabeth Barker 40 Henry Barker 43 Mary Thornton 9 Thomas Thornton 11 I hope this is your Henry? Kind Regards, Diane SYSNEY NSW -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stuart Barker Sent: Monday, 7 July 2008 9:38 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] HENRY BARKER Dear Listers, Would some kind person with access to Ancestry please look up an entry for me? 1841 England Census Name: Henry Barker DOB: 1798 - Lancashire England Residence: Lancashire England I would appreciate it greatly. Regards Ann ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I think it was me who started this trail. I am searching for more/any information on one of my 2xggrandfathers, John BRIDGFORD and his wife Hannah (BAMFORD) married 19 June 1783. In Pigots 1821-22 Directory his entry reads: Bridgford John, nursery and seedsman, 104 Market-st.; house Cheetwood Mike very kindly sent me maps of Cheetwood including one which showed Cheetwood House. This I ruled out as being too grand. I have now searched the directory for 'Cheetwood' and have found that no street names are given for that particular area, as they are for other areas of Manchester. Which is a pity. Pat did a great search of the 1841 Census for gggparents John and Hannah but no luck. So I am presuming that they died sometime btween 1820 (when info for the 1821 Directory would have been collected) and 1837 when civil registration began. If anyone has other suggestions for sources of evidence for this time period in Manchester that I could explore I'd be grateful. I noticed web addresses for burial records here the other day. Where would someone living in Cheetwood be buried at that time? Has anyone experience of rates/tax records that might help? Voters registrations/poll books? Obits (too early, I think)? Just to fill out John's story - he started his commercial life as a hairdresser, 6 Old Shambles, in 1794 Scholes Directory and in Scholes 1797 he was a hair-dresser, seedsman and florist, 2 Smithy-door! None of these addresses mean anything to me but it would seem that he diversified and prospered! Thanks for your help. Ruth

I'm researching AUSTIN in the ARDWICK area...Do you have any into on the Ardwick Area? Shirley in Texas "alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com" <alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com> wrote: Mike Thank you for your kind offer. If you could send the map showing Baslow Street to me at: alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com I'd be eternally grateful! Thanks! Val Taylor Mike Morris wrote: > Baslow street is on the north east border of Ardwick. My map dated 1894 > places it in Beswick. I will send you this map section. > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > >> Going off the details on the 1901 census entry I found, this family were >> living at 113 Baslow Street, Ardwick St. Silas Ecclesiastical District. >> Robert is a Grocer's Assistant. >> >> Does anyone know where this would be in Ardwick? >> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.5/1537 - Release Date: 7/6/2008 5:26 AM > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I read your note with interest, because of the Ardwick area of Manchester...I don't have any Bent's but have AUSTIN, and I'll have to look up the wife's name.. But do you have any info on the area itself? Thanks, Shirley in Texas Barb O'Neil <bndoneil@iprimus.com.au> wrote: Hi there from "Down Under" I wonder if I'm the only person in the world researching this particular family - it seems like it some times.......! My apologies for this being a rather long message, but it seems pointless to post a "generic" query when maybe some of the details shown could just create a spark of interest or recognition....... I have Laurence BENT and his 2nd wife Mary nee WOOD married 16 Jun 1823 in Manchester Cathedral. Their children - Emma born c. 1827 Edwin b. c 1832 Emily b. ???? Eleanor b. c 1836 I have a christening record for the 4 children in Manchester Cathedral 5 March 1837. I have since found a 5th child Lettis aged 2 on the 1841 census. I also noted that on that census return the children are shown as Emma, Edwin, Amelia, Elinor and Lettis. (someone once said that the names Amelia and Emily are interchangeable but not sure if this is so). My particular line is that of Eleanor who married James GALLAGHER 10 Oct 1859 Manchester Cathedral. They had 8 children between 1860 and 1873 - Emma, Amelia, Edward, Harry, Eleanor, Annie, Elizabeth and Maude. They lived in Smith Street, Ardwick - James' occupation was "Collector for Burial Society". This family came to Australia - Eleanor and the children dep. London "Gauntlet" 18/9/75 - arr. Brisbane, Queensland, Australia 7/2/1876 My ongoing problem is that whilst I have a record of Eleanor and her 8 children arriving, after many years of searching I am still unable to locate anything to tell me the movements of her husband James. (Family story has it that he came to Australia first, saved up to pay their fares and then sent for them.) Deductions from the age of the youngest child and the date of birth of the 9th child in Australia point to a time span of between 1873 and 1877. If only I could find him........! Of Eleanor's siblings there is information to show that: Emma married John Allen THOMPSON 08 Feb 1847 in Manchester. Edwin married Alice TEER 01 Jan 1853 in the Cathedral & Parish Church, Manchester No details are known of Emily (or Amelia) There is a Death regn. for Lettice BENT June qtr. 1842, Manchester which may relate to the 5th child. Can anyone tell me if there is some way to find if there is anyone researching the family lines that follow on from the children who stayed in England eg Emma, Edwin and Emily (or Amelia).......? The child born to Eleanor and James in Australia in 1877 was named John Thompson GALLAGHER (after the husband of Eleanor's sister Emma, so it would appear there was some communication way back then.) I guess what I'm wondering is - do the descendants of those who stayed in the UK spend time researching what happened to their relatives who left the country....? Are there likely to be any UK records of people who went to Australia between 1873 and 1877....? If there is anyone out there who has any connection to this family or can offer any suggestions for me to follow up, I would be delighted to hear from you. Fingers crossed. Barb O'Neil Queensland Australia ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All Sorry not been on for a while, I missed the Philips park thread can i help with a look up for who???? Kath > > From: Roy and Betty Mullett <rbmullett@shaw.ca> > Date: 2008/07/05 Sat PM 06:57:17 BST > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Cemetery > > If you go to this website there is a map link. > > http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/documents_info.php?documentID=1086&pageNumber=7 > > Betty > Canada > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "MAGPIE" <magpie@la.shockware.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:21 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Cemetery > > > > Would anyone know where Phillips Park Cemetery is? > > > > Ellen > > Alberta, Canada > > magpie@la.shockware.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of > > arcmikmum@talktalk.net > > Sent: July 4, 2008 12:31 PM > > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] McKEE, BARON 1882 - 1905 > > > > > > Hi Ellen > > > > http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/faq.asp#4 this tells you all > > about the costs, in my opinion they are too high for too little > > information, > > if you are wanting the death certificates, the burial records will only > > help > > you by telling you the grave number and who else is in the grave so you > > can > > be more sure of ordering the right certificate. > > > > The best thing to do is cross reference, for example: > > > > Burial records site: > > Robert McKee 1893 Phillips Park Cemetery > > Robert McKee 1894 Phillips Park Cemetery > > > > Deaths on Freebmd: > > Robert McKee aged 40 Dec qtr 1893 Manchester vol 8d page 162 > > Robert McKee aged 1 Jun qtr 1894 Manchester vol 8d page 142 > > > > You can order certificates here > > http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/ with just the information > > from freebmd. > > > > The 1893 Robert McKee death may well be yours, as the age of death gives > > he > > a birth year of 1853. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > Jane :o) > > > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > > Other people can learn from them! > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------- Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam

Lynne, I've ben dying to know where you are based - and I am so in awe of the workings behind the scene!! Please divulge! Sorry, I've been on the vino! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Lynne To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] alternate email address (was McKEE,BARON 1882 - 1905) <snip> Best wishes, Lynne

Hi Jane Oops! and they were so nice to me. Maybe it's a council thing then to direct all queries to the web site. The guy I spoke with couldn't have been more helpful. I felt like he'd gone over and beyond the call of duty. I'm sorry you had a bad experience. arcmikmum@talktalk.net wrote: > Hi Val > > Last time I rang them, about 3 months ago, I was told to go online! > > Jane :o) > > > >

Hi Val Last time I rang them, about 3 months ago, I was told to go online! Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: <alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:20 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Cemetery > Can I add that if you ring the Blackley Cemetery office, I've found them > to always be really helpful. They even sent me a map of Gorton Cemetery > and told me over the phone where my great grandparents were buried. Even > told me which grave to look for next to it as mine didn't have a > headstone! > > The number I have for the office is the same one Pat gave in the > earlier mail (0161 740 5359). There is also a fax number which might be > more useful for those overseas - 0161 795 3512. Didn't charge me > anything either which is always a bonus! > > Hope this helps someone. > > Val > > arcmikmum@talktalk.net wrote: >> Can I just add that the records on this site are by no means complete, I >> know of family buried in all of the cemeteries whose records are not >> online. >> >> Jane :o) >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> >> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Cemetery >> >> >>> Some people have a lot of luck with site, but I have never found >>> anything. >>> >>> http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/ >>> >>> The records are kept at >>> Blackley Cemetery & Crematorium >>> Victoria Ave >>> Manchester, M9 6QL >>> >>> 0161 740 5359? >>> >>> They don't have an individual web site - it is part of Manchester >>> Council. >>> >>> >>> > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can I add that if you ring the Blackley Cemetery office, I've found them to always be really helpful. They even sent me a map of Gorton Cemetery and told me over the phone where my great grandparents were buried. Even told me which grave to look for next to it as mine didn't have a headstone! The number I have for the office is the same one Pat gave in the earlier mail (0161 740 5359). There is also a fax number which might be more useful for those overseas - 0161 795 3512. Didn't charge me anything either which is always a bonus! Hope this helps someone. Val arcmikmum@talktalk.net wrote: > Can I just add that the records on this site are by no means complete, I > know of family buried in all of the cemeteries whose records are not online. > > Jane :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2008 10:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Phillips Park Cemetery > > >> Some people have a lot of luck with site, but I have never found anything. >> >> http://www.burialrecords.manchester.gov.uk/ >> >> The records are kept at >> Blackley Cemetery & Crematorium >> Victoria Ave >> Manchester, M9 6QL >> >> 0161 740 5359? >> >> They don't have an individual web site - it is part of Manchester Council. >> >> >>

Hi Kathryn I'm sorry if I misled you - "my" Thomas William TAYLOR (my great grandfather) was born in Carlisle. 22 June 1884. He moved to Manchester sometime after the 1901 census was taken as I found him on that in Carlisle. He was shown as unemployed so I guess he came to Manchester for work. Family story (unconfirmed as there isn't anyone left to ask) was that his brother Robert was already here and so he joined him. Robert was born 19 August 1870 in Dearham, Cumberland. I know he married a girl from Liverpool called Martha (born about 1872). They had 3 children listed on the 1901 census: Gladys, born about 1894, Liverpool. Thomas Edward, born about 1896, Liverpool. Robert E, born about 1897, Manchester. Actually, in view of the above sparse details on Robert's family could someone advise me on how to move forward? Going off the details on the 1901 census entry I found, this family were living at 113 Baslow Street, Ardwick St. Silas Ecclesiastical District. Robert is a Grocer's Assistant. Does anyone know where this would be in Ardwick? I've searched (in the past) the bmd's for the marriage and the children's births but not found anything that fitted. I did get one certificate for a Gladys born around the same time but it wasn't this one. My dad thought Robert was in Reddish in 1942 but can't be sure. it's all so vague but it's all I have to go off for now! It doesn't look like we have a connection Kathyrn - sorry. I'm assuming that the surname of TAYLOR was as common in Manchester in that time period as it was in Cumberland (or Cumbria as it is now). I'd be grateful for any ideas. Val Courtney, Kathryn wrote: > Hi Val, > Do you know anything more about your Thomas William TAYLOR? > My TAYLOR family lived in Ancoats, which I believe are very near Beswick > and Ardwick. I have: > John Thomas TAYLOR b. 1858 (my ancestor) > His brother William TAYLOR b. 1856, and his wife Frances/Fanny had 9 > children between 1877 and 1891, when they lived on Neild St. > > Kathryn Courtney > > >

MAGPIE wrote: >{Note to Lynne - I used a different email than I signed up with when I first >sent this message, hope it didn't add confusion.) > Don't worry about it -- I'm almost always confused! Seriously, if anyone has an alternate e-mail address from which they'd like to post to the list, whilst receiving list mail only at their subscribed address, please let me know. It's very easy to tweak subscriber settings so that subscribers can post from a different address than the one subscribed. This comes in very handy for those who forget which of their addresses is subscribed to what list. Best wishes, Lynne

Sorry, I am not sure who to send this to................. the mail becomes confusing as to who is asking for what. Contact me and I will send you the map. Mike Morris Toronto Cnada ----- Original Message ----- From: <alicia.taylor1@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] new member - researching TAYLOR, McGEE, GOODIER,TORKINGTON > Hi Kathryn > > I'm sorry if I misled you - "my" Thomas William TAYLOR (my great > grandfather) was born in Carlisle. 22 June 1884. He moved to Manchester > sometime after the 1901 census was taken as I found him on that in > Carlisle. He was shown as unemployed so I guess he came to Manchester > for work. Family story (unconfirmed as there isn't anyone left to ask) > was that his brother Robert was already here and so he joined him. > Robert was born 19 August 1870 in Dearham, Cumberland. I know he married > a girl from Liverpool called Martha (born about 1872). They had 3 > children listed on the 1901 census: > Gladys, born about 1894, Liverpool. > Thomas Edward, born about 1896, Liverpool. > Robert E, born about 1897, Manchester. > > Actually, in view of the above sparse details on Robert's family could > someone advise me on how to move forward? > > Going off the details on the 1901 census entry I found, this family were > living at 113 Baslow Street, Ardwick St. Silas Ecclesiastical District. > Robert is a Grocer's Assistant. > > Does anyone know where this would be in Ardwick? <snip>

Baslow street is on the north east border of Ardwick. My map dated 1894 places it in Beswick. I will send you this map section. Mike Morris Toronto Canada > > Going off the details on the 1901 census entry I found, this family were > living at 113 Baslow Street, Ardwick St. Silas Ecclesiastical District. > Robert is a Grocer's Assistant. > > Does anyone know where this would be in Ardwick? <snip>

Thought your Lister's researching Ireland may be interested in this. Regards Jackie. -----Original Message----- From: irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-dublin-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Liam Martin Sent: Sunday, 6 July 2008 10:04 PM To: irl-dublin@rootsweb.com; DONEGALEIRE@rootsweb.com; IRL-CO-Donegal; nir-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-DUBLIN] Irish SchoolRecords Terry EAKIN has listed all the Irish National school admission registers that are available. This list can be found in his Irish Newsletters on the Society of Australian Genealogists web site at the URL http://www.sag.org.au/aisnltrs/NSRI2006.pdf It provides PRONI and NAI reference numbers and LDS Film Numbers where available, together with a list of comments on each school record. Acknowledgements to Valerie in sunny Sydney Liam "A bird in the bush is worth two in the cat"