Hello Elsie, It was specifically the two people above and they were from Blackburn, so I don't think it is you. Regards, Lorraine I was looking for Robert Holden (Holding) of Eccles/ I believe someone is looking into that for me Elsie Hemming > Apologies for the multiple posting, but at some time I must have answered > a > query to someone who was searching for Mary Ann HOLDEN and James Henry > ELLISON. I don't know which list this was on - I have tried searching the > archives with no success. > > I would like to get in contact with this person. The reason is that a (79 > year old) great granddaughter of the above has mistakenly contacted me > with > information on the family and I can only think that she came across a > reply > that I might have made to someone. > > Lorraine

I have just re-registered using the same detail as before - it took me straight in and I can view the articles ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi, > I did the same, but when I put in the password they gave me, it won't > recognise it! Jane has given me another link, which has got me into the > site, and I have found a result in the Birmingham Daily Post - but so far > not letting me see the actual notice/article. > I am not one to give up easily....I shall continue! > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Mellors > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > I registered about an hour ago no problem - you need to complete all boxes > and in the state box I put international > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi Pat > > Someone else has had the same problem, maybe the trial is over, try this > link http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/ > Jane :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia williams" pat.williams121@virgin.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi Jane, > I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log > In > and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because theyrealised > I > am not a Library worker? > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net > To: Manchester > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi All > I just spent a whole day on this site. > http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they > have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Even though I got in with Jane's last link, and even though it allows searches, there are no thumbnails/facsimiles for viewing. Ah well - worth a try - it would have been good! ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Mellors To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. I can no longer get into it! When it says its time limited they are not kidding!

I can no longer get into it! When it says its time limited they are not kidding! ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi, > I did the same, but when I put in the password they gave me, it won't > recognise it! Jane has given me another link, which has got me into the > site, and I have found a result in the Birmingham Daily Post - but so far > not letting me see the actual notice/article. > I am not one to give up easily....I shall continue! > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Mellors > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:15 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > I registered about an hour ago no problem - you need to complete all boxes > and in the state box I put international > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:56 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi Pat > > Someone else has had the same problem, maybe the trial is over, try this > link http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/ > Jane :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia williams" pat.williams121@virgin.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi Jane, > I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log > In > and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because theyrealised > I > am not a Library worker? > Pat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net > To: Manchester > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi All > I just spent a whole day on this site. > http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they > have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Sandra, Check out this site http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/Merseysidebankrupts.html it lists bankrupts from all around the north west. Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Geddes 1" <sandrageddes@aanet.com.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Bankrupts > Many thanks Heather, > Am really flying blind on James WOOD, all I have is a mention of him in > his > Brother in laws William PRINCE'S Will which states that he Wm PRINCE > purchased property from the afsignees under the "said James WOOD'S > Bankruptcy", these properties were situated in Stott st Hulme. Now there's > a > thought.... perhaps there may be somewhere to search for when the > properties > changed hands? Thanks for the London Gazette website, I hadn't managed to > find it previously, have been looking through the Directores site though, > eventually my brick wall must come tumbling down. > Sandra Aus >> >> Have you tried the London Gazette >> (http://www.gazettes-online.co.uk/home.aspx?geotype=London)? >> >> Despite it's apparent location, it would list all brankruptcies across >> the country. I have found details of my husband's acestors business >> liquidation and they were based in Colne, Lancashire. There are sister >> Gazettes for Belfast and Edinburgh. >> >> > Hope this helps, if not, come back to the list and maybe someone else >> can offer another avenue to explore. >> Heather >> >> >> >> Sandra Geddes 1 wrote: >>> Does anybody know if there are papers dealing with Bankruptcy ? I am >>> looking for mention of a James WOOD Bankrupt between 1840's - 1879 >>> probably in the Manchester area >>> Thank you >>> Sandra Aus >>> >> >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1549 - Release Date: >> 7/12/2008 >> 4:31 PM >> >> >> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, I did the same, but when I put in the password they gave me, it won't recognise it! Jane has given me another link, which has got me into the site, and I have found a result in the Birmingham Daily Post - but so far not letting me see the actual notice/article. I am not one to give up easily....I shall continue! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Mellors To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. I registered about an hour ago no problem - you need to complete all boxes and in the state box I put international ----- Original Message ----- From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. Hi Pat Someone else has had the same problem, maybe the trial is over, try this link http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/ Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. Hi Jane, I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log In and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because theyrealised I am not a Library worker? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net To: Manchester Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. Hi All I just spent a whole day on this site. http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so

I registered about an hour ago no problem - you need to complete all boxes and in the state box I put international ----- Original Message ----- From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:56 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > Hi Pat > > Someone else has had the same problem, maybe the trial is over, try this > link http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/ > > Jane :o) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:38 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > >> >> Hi Jane, >> I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log >> In >> and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because they >> realised >> I am not a Library worker? >> Pat >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net >> To: Manchester >> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM >> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. >> >> Hi All >> >> I just spent a whole day on this site. >> http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they >> have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so >> I >> have no idea how long it'll be available for. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pat Someone else has had the same problem, maybe the trial is over, try this link http://find.galegroup.com/bncn/ Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "patricia williams" <pat.williams121@virgin.net> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 7:38 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi Jane, > I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log > In > and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because they > realised > I am not a Library worker? > Pat > ----- Original Message ----- > From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net > To: Manchester > Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. > > Hi All > > I just spent a whole day on this site. > http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they > have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so > I > have no idea how long it'll be available for. > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jane, I registered with the site (below) and they sent me an e-mail with a Log In and a Password. It won't let me log in though - maybe because they realised I am not a Library worker? Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: arcmikmum@talktalk.net To: Manchester Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:31 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fab site - now a little help is needed! Please. Hi All I just spent a whole day on this site. http://access.gale.com/gdctrial/login.html you need to register, but they have British newspapers from 1600 - 1900 online. This is only a trial, so I have no idea how long it'll be available for.

Mike is so patient looking through his magnifying glass! Well done - again! Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Mike Morris To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:38 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Church Street,Hyde Road - was this possibly in Ardwick? I followed Hyde road from its beginnings at the east end of Ardwick Green through several maps till I arrived in Gorton. There was a Church View running from the south a short distance into Hyde road and at the other end of Church View was a Church street. I have sent you the map section its dated 1894. Mike Morris

Aww thanks Jan, that is really good of you :O) Best wishes Vanda >----Original Message---- >From: janice.lehmann@ntlworld.com >Date: 15/07/2008 16:18 >To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> >Subj: Re: [ENG-MAN] Clayton > > >Hi Vanda, >I will get over there this weekend. Lots of Ashton New Road, and the Old >Road for that matter have had masses of redevelopment over the years. Ashton >New Road is very long, North Road sits about half way between Manchester and >Ashton, North Road lies just to the back of the main road. I'll see what I >can find for you. >Jan > > >> Hi Jan, >> >> Thank you for that, that is really kind of you. The address given in >> 1871 is 7 North Road. >> Am I right in thinking they pulled down the houses on Ashton New Road? >> I remember my parents talking of some redevelopment work and the house >> I used to visit as a child, 689 Ashton New Road, was being demolished. >> >> Best wishes & thanks again Vanda >> > >> > > > > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >Other people can learn from them! > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > __________________________________________________________ Free games for all the family - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/play __________________________________________________________

Hi Rob, I lived in Ardwick many moons ago and attended St Matthews Church on Hyde Rd. I do not recall a Church St around there. That isn't to say there wasn't one in the 1860's! I have a section of map that someone kindly sent me, I'll send it off list. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: ROB SHEPHERD To: eng-manchester-l Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 5:35 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Church Street, Hyde Road - was this possibly in Ardwick? On the 1865 marriage certificate for an ancestor his place of abode is given as Church Street, Hyde Road. Was this in Ardwick? I know that there was a St. Matthews Church built near Hyde Road in Ardwick around this time, but was there a Church Street here, or was it somewhere else??? Thanks Rob

Hi Helen, I can't answer your question directly, but if you follow the link below, it will take you to Manchester Council's School Records Guide. You have to download the school list and there are some Roman Catholic Schools. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/site/scripts/download_info.php?downloadID=176&fileID=5250 Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: HELEN To: LIST MANCHESTER Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] CATHOLIC SCHOOLS Hello List, Were there many Catholic Schools in Manchester in 1848-58 ? Are there any records available ? TIA Helen

On the 1865 marriage certificate for an ancestor his place of abode is given as Church Street, Hyde Road. Was this in Ardwick? I know that there was a St. Matthews Church built near Hyde Road in Ardwick around this time, but was there a Church Street here, or was it somewhere else??? Thanks Rob

Would you have access to maps showing any of the following addresses please, interested in the years pre 1873 Greengate Salford & 10 dwelling houses behind same in WOODS Buildings Backbridge Street Deans Gate Manchester Gregson street Back (Bad/Lad?) Lane & Woods Buildings near Deans Gate Manchester Stotts St Hulme Manor Street Castlefield Deansgate Sandra Aus

Is there aome kind soul who would be able to look at the Rate books at Manchester Record Office Please, I am looking for any information on Property in Stott St Hulme, particularly 3 Messuages, dwelling houses & Heriditaments, either in the names of William WOOD James WOOD & then transferred to William PRINCE I suspect in the 1850 - late 1860' s sorry I can't be a bit more specific but the following film numbers may help. Sandra Aus Hulme a.. RATE BOOK MICROFILM ROLLS 381-385 b.. RATE BOOK MICROFILM ROLLS 13-37 See South Manchester Rate Books for post 1895 rate books. Please note that from 1854 Hulme was divided into two wards - St. George's Ward and Medlock Ward. St. George's Ward always appears first on the microfilm. For 1854-1895 use the 1886 electoral register street index to discover which ward the address is in. For streets which no longer exist by then consult the Hulme 1854 rate book index in the Microfilm Unit.

Hi Ann, Many thanks for your kind offer. I have mailed a photo to your personal e-mail address. Could you please confirm receiept when you receive photo. Kindest regards Jackie. -------Original Message------- From: Stuart Barker Date: 15/07/2008 03:12:31 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Army garrison caps. Dear Jackie If all else fails and no-one can identify the cap you could email me a description and I will telephone a friend who is an expert on such matters and then get back to you. Regards Annie in Australia -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jackie Sent: Monday, 14 July 2008 11:25 PM To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-MAN] Army garrison caps. Are any researchers able to identify an Army garrison cap for me? I'm trying to obtain my fathers WW11 Army records but as I've never been able to obtain his birth cert and as I've no idea of the regiment he was with or his service number, the Army Records Office cannot find him. They have been extremely helpful and have looked through their database with no luck...but it's believed Dad lied about his age to enlist. I have a portrait photo of my father in Army Uniform but unfortunately there's not any badges on his uniform. His cap appears very unusual and might identify his unit. As he was living in Manchester, I'm hoping it may have been a regiment attached to Manchester. Regards Jackie jackie005@btclick.com ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.4.10/1552 - Release Date: 7/14/2008 6:28 PM ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Vanda, I will get over there this weekend. Lots of Ashton New Road, and the Old Road for that matter have had masses of redevelopment over the years. Ashton New Road is very long, North Road sits about half way between Manchester and Ashton, North Road lies just to the back of the main road. I'll see what I can find for you. Jan > Hi Jan, > > Thank you for that, that is really kind of you. The address given in > 1871 is 7 North Road. > Am I right in thinking they pulled down the houses on Ashton New Road? > I remember my parents talking of some redevelopment work and the house > I used to visit as a child, 689 Ashton New Road, was being demolished. > > Best wishes & thanks again Vanda > >

These maps are small sections of an area requested. In the latter is shows but a small section of Greengate , but large enough to see the buildings that had been requested. I will send you the section so you can get an idea of what it is I have sent out. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Louise Gebert" <ourtree@shaw.ca> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:23 PM > Could I please have a copy of the Greengate map too. <snip>

Right!!! thats it, I am finished. I located Woods Buildings in 1844 off Greengate in Salford. So that lot should give you something to play with :)) Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra Geddes 1" <sandrageddes@aanet.com.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 3:15 AM > Would you have access to maps showing any of the following addresses > please, interested in the years pre 1873 > Greengate Salford & 10 dwelling houses behind same in WOODS Buildings > Backbridge Street Deans Gate Manchester > Gregson street Back (Bad/Lad?) Lane & Woods Buildings near Deans Gate > Manchester > Stotts St Hulme > Manor Street Castlefield Deansgate <snip>