Hi Pamela This William Eshelby may be a strong contender. I see that he was 70 years old which is a suprise I see he was living at Albington Street - was this anywhere near Aytoun Street, Hart Street and Bloom Street - perhaps Mike may be kind enough to help again? THANKS VERY MUCH TO ALL LISTERS WHO HAVE HELPED WITH THIS QUERY - MUCH APPRECIATED! Rob

Thanks Pauline, the nmap shows Independant College and I have sent this off... It was between College road and Clarendon road in Whalley Range. It was still there around 1970. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Pendlebury" <ppendlebury@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:16 AM > l have sent both the 1891 census shot and the description of Dist > 13,Withington,to Eileen. > The description has Grosvenor road,Clarendon Road, Burford > Road,College road,Lancashire Independant College, Wood > Road,Brookfields,Marriotts,Carlton road..<snip>

Any chance this was Abingdon street ? Which is near Bloom street. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROB SHEPHERD" <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> To: "eng-manchester-l" <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 11:28 AM > > I see he was living at Albington Street - was this anywhere near Aytoun > Street, Hart Street and Bloom Street - <snip>

Hello Rob There is a William ESHELBY in Manchester in 1841. Aged 70 not born in County . In the family are Charlotte aged 50 Jane aged 15 & Margaret & William aged 10. Could they be your family? Pamela

It still may be that he had died . I have quite a few marriage certificates on which it does not say deceased and I have later found out that he was . I believe it was up to the individuals marrying as to whether they put deceased against their fathers name. Hope this helps, regards Kath --- On Sat, 9/8/08, ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> wrote: > From: ROB SHEPHERD <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Census Mystery - any help appreciated > To: "eng-manchester-l" <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Saturday, 9 August, 2008, 1:40 PM > I wonder if any fellow listers can help with a puzzle? > > I am interested in the Ashelby family of Manchester. > > I know the father of the family was William Ashelby, and I > have the marriage > certificates of several children > > 1840 Eliza Ashelby (address given as 68 Bloom Street) > 1849 Ann Ashelby (address given as Oldham Road) > 1849 Jane Ashelby (address given as 30 Hart Street) > 1853 Margaret Ashelby (address given as 30 Hart Street) > > I'm assuming that at least some of these addresses > would also have applied > to William Ashelby. He wasn't listed as deceased on any > of the certificates, > yet I can't find him on any of the censuses under > Ashelby. I've also looked > as Ashley and Ashby and even Axelby. Does anyone have any > suggestions as to > other spelling variants or can help to locate the family? > There was also a > daughter Mary and possibly a son David. > > Thanks to Mavis for looking on the 1851 water damaged > census index. > > Any help from the census or other sources would be much > appreciated. > > Thanks very much. > > Rob > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the > list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message __________________________________________________________ Not happy with your email address?. Get the one you really want - millions of new email addresses available now at Yahoo! http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/ymail/new.html

Could it be Eshelby? Joe In Queens, NY

I wonder if any fellow listers can help with a puzzle? I am interested in the Ashelby family of Manchester. I know the father of the family was William Ashelby, and I have the marriage certificates of several children 1840 Eliza Ashelby (address given as 68 Bloom Street) 1849 Ann Ashelby (address given as Oldham Road) 1849 Jane Ashelby (address given as 30 Hart Street) 1853 Margaret Ashelby (address given as 30 Hart Street) I'm assuming that at least some of these addresses would also have applied to William Ashelby. He wasn't listed as deceased on any of the certificates, yet I can't find him on any of the censuses under Ashelby. I've also looked as Ashley and Ashby and even Axelby. Does anyone have any suggestions as to other spelling variants or can help to locate the family? There was also a daughter Mary and possibly a son David. Thanks to Mavis for looking on the 1851 water damaged census index. Any help from the census or other sources would be much appreciated. Thanks very much. Rob

Hello all: I am wondering if anyone remembers anything about baseball teams playing in the Manchester area in the 1930's and 1940's? Family legend has it that my Canadian-born grandfather Charlie White played baseball professionally or semi-professionally during those years and I'd like to try to find out what team(s) he may have played for. I have some old photos but unfortunately there are no logos visible and no notations as to what team they are. My most recent discovery is that he worked at the Ford plant during the war and I'm wondering if there might have been a baseball team associated with the plant. He lived in Salford on Wellington St E. until at least 1951, have no record of him after that. Any sports buffs with long memories out there? TIA, Gail

Ask our kind list members for help. :)) Mike Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <dublinswift@yahoo.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:25 AM , Thanks for you input, unfortunatley i don't have access to the 1891 census. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: Check the 1891 census for the surrounding street names. and let me know what they were. <snip>

Hello Eileen, Check the 1891 census for the surrounding street names. and let me know what they were. A strong clue would be if he was catholic. St Bedes appears to be the only place in this part of Manchester that was built to teach priests etc. On the other hand another List member mentioned a Methodist college. Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <dublinswift@yahoo.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:54 AM I don't know if he actually attended Victoria University, a note in a journal he left to one of his grandchildren mentions the University but not when he attended. I am trying to find out where the attendence records might be found, I know he attended Withington Independent College in 1891 <snip>

Aytoun street was close to Bloom street on the east side of Piccadilly. I have e-mailed this map to Rob. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Pendlebury" <ppendlebury@iinet.net.au> To: <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 9:42 AM > Your William Ashelby is listed on the 1841 Pigot and Slaters > Directory for Manchester and Salford,at > 68 Bloom St, Aytoun st,G...now the directory usually lists the street > lived in followed by the next main street to it.l followed up in the > directory re Aytoun St and l think it is near Portland Street. <snip>

> > The BUCKLEY ancestor I am currently following is ALFRED BUCKLEY born 1865 > in > , The 1891 census shows he attended Withington College in Lancashire and > studied Theology when he was 25 , I have traced him all the way to North > Vancouver, Canada. > > Am interested in find out more about this college, and if it has any > connection to The Victoria College he has also laid claim to attending. > Can > anyone help with this? Withington College might also be the Methodist theological college on College Road, off Withington Road, Whalley Range. This only closed down fairly recently (possibly 1980s), became a GMB trades union training centre, and now is the British Muslim Heritage Centre. Regards Geoff Barlow

thanks   I will   eileen --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: From: Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] BUCKLEY, Alfred 1865-1947 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, August 9, 2008, 10:33 AM Ask our kind list members for help. :)) Mike Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eileen" <dublinswift@yahoo.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 10:25 AM , Thanks for you input, unfortunatley i don't have access to the 1891 census. --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: Check the 1891 census for the surrounding street names. and let me know what they were. <snip> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike,   Thanks for you input, unfortunatley i don't have access to the 1891 census.    Regards Eileen --- On Sat, 8/9/08, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: Hello Eileen, Check the 1891 census for the surrounding street names. and let me know what they were.

Hi Mike,   I don't know if he actually attended Victoria University, a note in a journal he left to one of his grandchildren mentions the University but not when he attended.  I am trying to find out where the attendence records might be found, I know he attended Withington Independent College in 1891 and he was 25 how long he had been there i don't know, and then he emigrated to Canada in 1907.   Thanks for you response Eileen --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Mike Morris <morrisind@rogers.com> wrote: Was it possible he attended Victoria University of Manchester? Did you look at the names for the surrounding streets and roads when you checked out the 1891 census? That would have helped narrow down the search. Mike Morris Toronto Canada

Hi Mavis Many thanks for your lookup much appreciated - unfortunate that the Ashelbys weren't there! Rob

Hi Rob, I found 30 Hart Street, Manchester (London Road disc) but sorry there were no names it looked like there would have been 10 people before the next number 32, must have been illegible. There was no name Ashelby in the surnames list either. Regards Mavis ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROB SHEPHERD" <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> To: "eng-manchester-l" <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] 1851 water damaged census - look up please > Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Manchester? > > I'm looking for the Ashelby family at 30, Hart Street, Manchester > > Any information much appreciated. > > Thanks. > > Rob > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi David Thanks for the look up - much appreciated Rob

Does anyone have access to the 1851 census for Manchester? I'm looking for the Ashelby family at 30, Hart Street, Manchester Any information much appreciated. Thanks. Rob

I have sent Rob map sections showing Hart street, it was south west of the London road area in 1844. A couple of streets to the east of Portland street and Piccadilly Gardens. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mavis Griffiths" <mavisgg@btinternet.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 3:34 PM > > I found 30 Hart Street, Manchester (London Road disc) <snip>