I was looking for more information about a Joseph and Maud Herbert(from England) who were on a ships list for 1954. No age or anything else was listed. Her number was V. 724592 Mary > From: pat.williams121@virgin.net > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2008 00:47:06 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Old Passports > > Depends on how old that person is and what you want to know. Any more > details? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mary R. Moogk > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:21 AM > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Old Passports > > Does anyone know if I have an old British passport number and the persons > name, from the 1950's, whether I could find out details regarding the > person? > Thank you, Mary > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________

I am not sure but I would think that information would be protected and not be accessible by any means. At least I would hope no one would be able to gain access except for person having the passport & number. If you were able to gain access of information that would breach privacy rulings I would think. Perhaps someone else knows the answer. I would be very curious to know the answer also. Diana 2008/9/1 Mary R. Moogk <marymoogk@hotmail.com> > > Does anyone know if I have an old British passport number and the persons > name, from the 1950's, whether I could find out details regarding the > person? > Thank you, Mary > > _________________________________________________________________ > Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate > crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! > http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Depends on how old that person is and what you want to know. Any more details? ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary R. Moogk To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 12:21 AM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Old Passports Does anyone know if I have an old British passport number and the persons name, from the 1950's, whether I could find out details regarding the person? Thank you, Mary

Ruth, you are a gem!! Thankyou, I shall go there now! I had googled, but didn't come up with this. Pat W ----- Original Message ----- From: RuthGenda@aol.com To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 8:54 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Annals of Manchester Hi Pat _http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsofmanchest00axon_ (http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsofmanchest00axon) This is the website. You can read the book on line because Microsoft has digitised it. Best Ruth

The only Station street I could locate was south east of London road station in Chorlton on Medlock the next suburb to Hulme. I have sent you this map section. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROB SHEPHERD" <robshepherd1974@googlemail.com> To: "eng-manchester-l" <ENG-MANCHESTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 10:49 AM Can Mike or any other lister help with the location of Station Street, Hulme c. 1815? I suspect it was somewhere near the Hulme barracks but I'm not certain. <snip>

Hello, British passports are unaccessible for 100 years after the issue date. Tried several years ago and was told this is the policy. I don't believe it has changed. Joan On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Diana Nowell wrote: > I am not sure but I would think that information would be protected > and not > be accessible by any means. > At least I would hope no one would be able to gain access except for > person > having the passport & number. > > If you were able to gain access of information that would breach > privacy > rulings I would think. > > Perhaps someone else knows the answer. I would be very curious to > know the > answer also. > > Diana > > 2008/9/1 Mary R. Moogk <marymoogk@hotmail.com> > >> >> Does anyone know if I have an old British passport number and the >> persons >> name, from the 1950's, whether I could find out details regarding the >> person? >> Thank you, Mary >> >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate >> crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! >> http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212 >> >> >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. >> Other people can learn from them! >> >> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Does anyone know if I have an old British passport number and the persons name, from the 1950's, whether I could find out details regarding the person? Thank you, Mary _________________________________________________________________ Find hidden words, unscramble celebrity names, or try the ultimate crossword puzzle with Live Search Games. Play now! http://g.msn.ca/ca55/212

Hi Alison and All, Sorry I cannot answer Alison's query as I have never heard of the Manchester Annals before. Can anyone tell me what and where they are? Also, Alison, how did you manage to get your info? Just hoping for another learning curve. Thanks, Pat W

Hi Pat _http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsofmanchest00axon_ (http://www.archive.org/stream/annalsofmanchest00axon) This is the website. You can read the book on line because Microsoft has digitised it. Best Ruth

Thanks Mike, I will continue to chip away at this family eventually it will all make sense (I hope) Sandra Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morris" <morrisind@rogers.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2008 3:10 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] WOOD 1851 Census > Hi Sandra, > I located Lloyd street in 1844 to 1849. I will send you the map section. > You > can see its a nice home for that time period. Greenheys is on the east > side > of Manchester, I would say its almost part of Chorlton on Medlock. > >

Lorna Sorry I have been away. How is it all going with Charles Edmonds? Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Sent: 29 August 2008 19:57 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 livingon CrossStreetSalford1851 Hello Madalyn.. That could very well be.. Any idea how I could see if Jane Morris died..si the area specific enough for me to narrow down cemetary records or something of that kind? I'm on pins and needles as I suspect you are on to something. Eagerly, Lorna howandmad.t21@btinternet.com wrote: > Hi Lorna, > > To follow-up on Carolyn's finds: > > Phillimore's Parish Records > Isle Brewers Marriages > > Samuel EDMUNDS & Jane MORRIS - 31 August 1796 > Samuel EDMUNDS and Honour HECTOR - 24 February, 1800 > > Might be Charles father remarrying after Jane's death. > > FreeBMD has a death reg. for > Honor EDMONDS Sept.Q/1838 > ref: Langport Volume 10, page 251 > > There is an entry on Family History Online: > Somerset NBI V.2 for the burial of Honor EDMONDS in 1838 > if someone has access to the data - sadly my credit has run out for > this month :-( > > 1841 census: Broughton Road, Greengate,Salford HO107/585/19 Page 28 > JOHNSON Jane 35 Independant born in County > EDMUNDSON/???EDMONDS Margaret 10 F.S. (Female Servant) b.in Co. > > No luck with Charles yet. > Regards, Madalyn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Carolyn" <dayc@talk21.com> > To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:29 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 living on > CrossStreetSalford1851 > > > >> Lorna >> >> Honour Hecter was baptisd 1779 in the Isle of Brewers (which is near >> Taunton >> Somerset) It has her husband as Samuel Edmunds married 24 febrary 1800 at >> the same place. >> >> Carolyn >> > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. Other people can learn from them! ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 29/08/2008 18:12 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.13/1642 - Release Date: 29/08/2008 18:12

Can Mike or any other lister help with the location of Station Street, Hulme c. 1815? I suspect it was somewhere near the Hulme barracks but I'm not certain. Many thanks, Rob

HiFollowing up from this and the Somerset links, you may like to search FreeREG - www.freereg.org.ukThis site has references to both marriages listed below as well as the burial of Honor EDMUNDS at Fivehead in Somerset. The burial took place on the 22nd July 1838 and she was 74 Years old.Hope this helps, Graham--Graham NaylorPlymouth, UKhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gora_gray>> Phillimore's Parish Records> Isle Brewers Marriages>> Samuel EDMUNDS & Jane MORRIS - 31 August 1796> Samuel EDMUNDS and Honour HECTOR - 24 February, 1800>> Might be Charles father remarrying after Jane's death.>> FreeBMD has a death reg. for> Honor EDMONDS Sept.Q/1838> ref: Langport Volume 10, page 251>> There is an entry on Family History Online:> Somerset NBI V.2 for the burial of Honor EDMONDS in 1838> if someone has access to the data - sadly my credit has run out for> this month :-( _________________________________________________________________ Win New York holidays with Kellogg’s & Live Search http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/107571440/direct/01/

Dear Alison If you Google 'Kersal Lodge' you'll find information about it as Kersal Dale has been well-researched by the below mentioned 'Friends of Kersal Dale.' The first website shows a video of the area - its history etc. In fact it's worth looking at by anyone with an interest in Manchester generally. _http://www.salford.gov.uk/leisure/parks/parksinsalford/countryparks/thecliff/ kersaldalevideo.htm_ (http://www.salford.gov.uk/leisure/parks/parksinsalford/countryparks/thecliff/kersaldalevideo.htm) _http://www.friends-of-kersal-dale.org.uk/history.html_ (http://www.friends-of-kersal-dale.org.uk/history.html) No mention of James DOWN unfortunately. JD appears in Pigot's 1828-9 Directory in Leicester (?)living/practising in Belvoir {pronounced Beever) Street in the centre of Leicester. But maybe you knew that already. In what year did JD die? Regards Ruth (in Leicester)

Hi List This notice concerning the death of a Lord Ashton, descendent of cotton mill owners in Hyde, appears in the Gloucestershire Echo today. http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/cheltenham/Lord-hunt-dies/article-294870-detail/article.html Quote "The Ashton family were cotton pioneers in the small town of Hyde, east of Manchester. In 1800, six Ashton brothers were involved in the foundations of a business which grew to be the town's biggest employer, engaged in spinning, weaving and calico printing" End Quote How many of our ancestors slaved away in the family's mills? It is fascinating to see that his qualifications for becoming a Director of Barclays Bank were- Eton, Army- History at Oxford- Bank Director. If this was the normal route to directorship of the Bank, little wonder that it has suffered such a catastrophic series of management disasters over recent years. Terry Heath Cheltenham

I have just discovered that my grt grt grandfather JAMES DOWN, a surgeon in Leicester until 1831 died outside Manchester Excerpt from the Annals of Manchester Page 185 Mr. James Down, surgeon, late of Leicester, died at Kersal Lodge, May 2. He was the inventor and patentee of a valuable method of purifying gas. ... Does anyone have any information on this place or who lived there. I am trying to discover if his wife and 2 small children were with him I am also in the process of trying to find an obituary which may be of help Any help or ideas GRATEFULLY RECEIVED I am new to this list and researching in Lancashire Alison in Canada ( I have already posted this on the Lancashire site but hope there is someone "out there" who hasn"t seen this)

Hi Lorna, the map I sent you shows a Springfield lane running south. This lane ran into Greengate. I will send you the map section so you can join it to the Cross street section to get a better picture. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorna" <Lorna@xmission.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 3:00 PM I have a question on the Cross streets you found. There is a note that my Charles Edmunds was asked to visit the Greengate District. As he was crippled, I doubt he could have gone too far so would that narrow down the location of his Cross Street? <snip>

Hi Lorna, To follow-up on Carolyn's finds: Phillimore's Parish Records Isle Brewers Marriages Samuel EDMUNDS & Jane MORRIS - 31 August 1796 Samuel EDMUNDS and Honour HECTOR - 24 February, 1800 Might be Charles father remarrying after Jane's death. FreeBMD has a death reg. for Honor EDMONDS Sept.Q/1838 ref: Langport Volume 10, page 251 There is an entry on Family History Online: Somerset NBI V.2 for the burial of Honor EDMONDS in 1838 if someone has access to the data - sadly my credit has run out for this month :-( 1841 census: Broughton Road, Greengate,Salford HO107/585/19 Page 28 JOHNSON Jane 35 Independant born in County EDMUNDSON/???EDMONDS Margaret 10 F.S. (Female Servant) b.in Co. No luck with Charles yet. Regards, Madalyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn" <dayc@talk21.com> To: <eng-manchester@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2008 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 living on CrossStreetSalford1851 > Lorna > > Honour Hecter was baptisd 1779 in the Isle of Brewers (which is near > Taunton > Somerset) It has her husband as Samuel Edmunds married 24 febrary 1800 at > the same place. > > Carolyn

Lorna I have found the death of Horor Edmonds in Somerset therefore the family didn’t move to Lancashire together. Deaths Sep 1838 _____ Edmonds Honor Langport X 251 Langport is the register office for Isle of Brewers. Carolyn No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 26/08/2008 19:09

Lorna I haven't found any other children so far. I wonder if Sanuel and Honor moved to Lancashire? Carolyn -----Original Message----- From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna Sent: 29 August 2008 16:08 To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 living onCross StreetSalford1851 Carolyn.. Thank you so much for this... I suppose it isn't too much of a stretch to assume my Charles Edmunds was born before his parents married. Can I impose on you to see if there are any christening records that list any of the couple's children? It is presumptuous of me to ask, I know but as you are a researcher, you understand how obsessed people become with this... Thanks for any help you can give me.. Lorna Rosenstein Carolyn wrote: > Lorna > > Honour Hecter was baptisd 1779 in the Isle of Brewers (which is near Taunton > Somerset) It has her husband as Samuel Edmunds married 24 febrary 1800 at > the same place. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: 29 August 2008 09:35 > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 living on Cross > StreetSalford1851 > > Lorna > > There were plenty of woolen mills he could have trained in Somerset. > > Carolyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-manchester-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lorna > Sent: 28 August 2008 20:09 > To: eng-manchester@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Charles Edmunds b. 1799 living on Cross Street > Salford1851 > > I am new to this list but I am wondering if anyone can help me. I am > looking for Charles Edmonds. In the 1851 Salford Census, it lists him > as born b. 1799 in Somerset. Although I can't verify, family legend has > him born on 17 Oct..father Samuel, mother Honer Heckter? There is some > mention of a birthplace called Kabbeth? somewhere in Somerset. He is an > operative dyer, general (whatever that means..I assume he worked with > the dye lots in the cotton mills) His wife is Jane born in approx 1809 > in Lancaster Town. She is listed as a cotton doubler (whatever that is) > , there is one daughter, Ellen who was born in 1830 in Lancaster, > Manchester and listed as a servant. They are listed as living at 1 > Cross Street shed #63. The ecclesiastical district is not listed > neither is the borough. > > I know that Charles legs were crippled and he used two canes to walk. > His back may have been deformed, also. If he was born crippled, perhaps > he was apprenticed out, young? Maybe he suffered an accident? Perhaps > he came from Somerset to seek his fortune? Was there an industry in > Somerset that would have prepared Charles to work in the Cotton Mills? > I assume from the type of work they did and from other accounts, they > were some of the very poor working class. > > As I can't find this family in the census before 1851, I wonder if > anyone can see if there is a Salford census for 1840? If his wife was > 10 years younger, perhaps it was a second marriage? If the wife was > from Lancaster and the daughter born there, where would I find the > marriage records? Did they have any other kids? What parish would be in > that area? St Trinity? Are there parish records for St Trinity? Would > that be where the working poor would go? > > Any help you can give me would be appreciated. Any ideas where to look > further..anything at all would be welcome. > > Thank you most sincerely, > > Lorna Rosenstein > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 26/08/2008 > 19:09 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 26/08/2008 > 19:09 > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 26/08/2008 > 19:09 > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.6.9/1636 - Release Date: 26/08/2008 > 19:09 > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. > Other people can learn from them! > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ Except for personal messages, please post replies to the list. 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