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    1. [ENG-MAN] Fw: [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. elizabeth kraus
    3. Just wondering where one can access a copy of this book....online??? Elizabeth Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jennifer Harris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 12:06 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned) > for anyone looking into Puritans, another source worth considering is the > book > _Pilgrims: new World Settlers and the Call of Home_ > > It looks at Puritans who returned to England--a substantial number--and > utilizes sources previously ignored. It also reflects on those who stayed. > (My copy is at the office or I would have checked for the names.) > > Jennifer > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/16/2011 11:21:51
    1. [ENG-MAN] Fw: Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. elizabeth kraus
    3. Just to add a little more to the migration situation. Many who emigrated to Australia followed the 'chain migration' principle as Lyn referred to whereby one or two family members (often the younger and single members or young couples with/without small children)who would emigrate and then write back to the family ...usually in glowing terms of the opportunities to be had and then the rest of the family and often extended family would then migrate. This happened in at least 2 cases amongst my ancestors arriving in South Australia during the 1850s. There are many cases especially in South Australia during the 1840s where families had emigrated due to religious issues. So I feel this would very much be the same for those emigrating to the US and Canada both during the Puritan era and later into the 1900s and beyond. Regards Elizabeth Victoria, Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament > My question is why wouldn't they? In later immigration it is seen where > people from the same village/area immigrated together or to the same > place. > Often, but I don't think always, one or two went first and sent for the > others. It isn't the only reason, but one of many including religious > affinity. > > I would not rule out that they were from the same area, if not village. > I'd > keep an open mind until proved either way. > > Regards > > Lyn > In Oz. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> Stephanie Ray >> Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2011 6:32 AM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament >> >> Sally, you just answered the question that I had... why would >> all those people who were BAPTIZED together later EMIGRATE together?! >> >> So they were not baptized together... they just traveled together. >> >> Now I just have to find that sailing list and the register in >> Yorks with the one name. >> >> Thank you so much. >> >> Stephanie >> > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/16/2011 11:17:05
    1. [ENG-MAN] Lancashire BMD updates 15 January 2011
    2. Lynne
    3. The latest from Lancashire BMD - 15 January 2011 Added 15,890 Marriages for Manchester RD comprising: Chorlton-on-Medlock Register Office or Registar Attended (1913-1930); Manchester Register Office or Registrar Attended (1901-1902); Prestwich Registrar Attended (1905-1910) ~ ~ ~ ~ Yorkshire and Cheshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

    01/16/2011 04:51:00
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] Fw: Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. sally roberts
    3. Elizabeth and Lyn are obviously right, a golden rule is not to assume. As far as I understood what it was that Stephanie was after as an answer, however, was, where is the parish register that holds all of these names mentioned? Ie, Boaz Sharpe, Malachi Mallock, Pharoah Flinton (her ancestor), Epaphroditus Haughton etc. They had been quoted in two separate sources, once in an article in 1888 and in something else in 1910. My answer was the original article appeared to indicate that the author had read a Sailing Register. The second article looks to have been almost a straight lift of the same information, with the remark "in one Register". It doesn't state anywhere it was a Parish Register, so I was pointing out it was best not to try to group everyone as being in the same place when they were born, just that they sailed over to America at some point between the reigning years of Kings James and Charles. A quick google of some of these names mention birthplaces in London and the North East of England. Sadly, her Pharoah Flinton, wherever he is mentioned, simply states his birthplace as England. I believe that Stephanie has other information which may point to Yorkshire being his county of birth. Hopefully she will make that breakthrough at some time in the future. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2011 18:17:05 +1100 > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fw: Puritan names from the Old Testament > > Just to add a little more to the migration situation. > Many who emigrated to Australia followed the 'chain migration' principle as > Lyn referred to whereby one or two family members (often the younger and > single members or young couples with/without small children)who would > emigrate and then write back to the family ...usually in glowing terms of > the opportunities to be had and then the rest of the family and often > extended family would then migrate. This happened in at least 2 cases > amongst my ancestors arriving in South Australia during the 1850s. > > There are many cases especially in South Australia during the 1840s where > families had emigrated due to religious issues. > > So I feel this would very much be the same for those emigrating to the US > and Canada both during the Puritan era and later into the 1900s and beyond. > Regards > Elizabeth > Victoria, Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lyn" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 7:47 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament > > > > My question is why wouldn't they? In later immigration it is seen where > > people from the same village/area immigrated together or to the same > > place. > > Often, but I don't think always, one or two went first and sent for the > > others. It isn't the only reason, but one of many including religious > > affinity. > > > > I would not rule out that they were from the same area, if not village. > > I'd > > keep an open mind until proved either way. > > > > Regards > > > > Lyn > > In Oz. > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > >> Stephanie Ray > >> Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2011 6:32 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament > >> > >> Sally, you just answered the question that I had... why would > >> all those people who were BAPTIZED together later EMIGRATE together?! > >> > >> So they were not baptized together... they just traveled together. > >> > >> Now I just have to find that sailing list and the register in > >> Yorks with the one name. > >> > >> Thank you so much. > >> > >> Stephanie > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/16/2011 04:50:14
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] JAMES HASLAM
    2. Stephanie Ray
    3. One useful tool for finding living people (and their relatives) in the US is peoplefinders.com On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 4:41 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > My ancestor was JOSEPH HASLAM who emigrated with his wife HANNAH CORRIGAN to >  the US from Manchester in 1858. He was a shoemaker. He was christened in 1821 and was married in the Collegiate Church in 1842. Joseph's parents were JAMES HASLAM, a mechanic, born abt 1781 and ELLEN IRVIN. Records indicate there were 10 children including Joseph. > > I'm interested in contacting any of these descendants: > > > > JAMES HASLAM > > FRANCIS  " > > WILLIAM > > SAMUEL > > ABRAHAM > > MARGARET > > GEORGE > > JAMES > > JACKSON > > > > Virginia in California > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/16/2011 03:09:45
    1. [ENG-MAN] if looking into Puritans (and those whor eturned)
    2. Jennifer Harris
    3. I'd try interlibrary loan. It's a 2008 publication date, Yale University Press. The author is Susan Hardman Moore. Google books has a preview, but it is clearly not complete. http://books.google.ca/books?id=LkAsLiLKWS8C&printsec=frontcover&dq=%22susan+hardman+moore%22&source=bl&ots=dZNr7z-vlv&sig=fWFfkfCS7ctIS6A5Fmsi7UkuwpY&hl=en&ei=yfYyTbzdCYet8AaUnPTRCA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false Jennifer ________________________________________ From: [email protected] [[email protected]] On Behalf Of elizabeth kraus [[email protected]] Sent: January-16-11 3:21 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-MAN] Fw: [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned) Just wondering where one can access a copy of this book....online??? Elizabeth Victoria, Australia

    01/16/2011 02:44:45
    1. [ENG-MAN] Google/Google books (was Puritan names from the old Testament)
    2. Stephanie Ray
    3. Sally, you are absolutely correct in that a Google search should be done for all relevant names, and I was remiss in not having done so before! I actually did do a search of books.google.com, and that is how I found the reference to Bardsley, which was a real eye-opener. Searches in both places is highly recommended for all researchers! Best regards, Stephanie On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, sally roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Stephanie > > I would contact some of the people who I found on Google that also have Pharoah in their tree, as at least one of them would have (hopefully) isolated the Sailing Schedule. > > The only clue I could see was the reference to the timing of the sailings having been in the reigns of James and Charles, going to New England. > > Finding out where sailing schedules from, say, England to New England, between the years of 24 July 1567 – 27 March 1625 (King James 1) and 27 March 1625 – 30 January 1649 (King Charles 1) is at least somewhere to start and end the search. > > The only other thing I noticed was that a couple of the names I entered in Google seemed to have a connection to Carribean Islands..... > > http://www.allcensus.com/original_lists_166.htm > 12 December. Epaphroditus Houghton appointed Provost Marshall General of the Islands of St. Christopher's > (Saint Kitts) - So don't limit yourself to just schedules from England :o) > > > http://www.archive.org/stream/associationoathr00gand/associationoathr00gand_djvu.txt > Association Oath Rolls : British Plantations. 1696. > Captn of Smiths Fort > Boaz Sharpe > > Of course, they could be a coincidence in the last case, but probably not in the first. > > Shame none of them are Pharoah though :o) > > Regards, > Sally

    01/16/2011 02:10:26
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. Lyn
    3. My question is why wouldn't they? In later immigration it is seen where people from the same village/area immigrated together or to the same place. Often, but I don't think always, one or two went first and sent for the others. It isn't the only reason, but one of many including religious affinity. I would not rule out that they were from the same area, if not village. I'd keep an open mind until proved either way. Regards Lyn In Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Stephanie Ray > Sent: Sunday, 16 January 2011 6:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament > > Sally, you just answered the question that I had... why would > all those people who were BAPTIZED together later EMIGRATE together?! > > So they were not baptized together... they just traveled together. > > Now I just have to find that sailing list and the register in > Yorks with the one name. > > Thank you so much. > > Stephanie >

    01/15/2011 11:47:58
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. Hi Daryl and many thanks for the interesting site on Jamestown!! I will spend some time looking through it. Appreciate your help......mary lou In a message dated 1/15/2011 9:44:48 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I was able to find this search page. Hope it helps. http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/muster24.html Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned) > Muster of Jamestown Virginia 1625 > > Hi......how does one access this muster?? > > mary lou > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/15/2011 06:31:46
    1. [ENG-MAN] JAMES HASLAM
    2. My ancestor was JOSEPH HASLAM who emigrated with his wife HANNAH CORRIGAN to  the US from Manchester in 1858. He was a shoemaker. He was christened in 1821 and was married in the Collegiate Church in 1842. Joseph's parents were JAMES HASLAM, a mechanic, born abt 1781 and ELLEN IRVIN. Records indicate there were 10 children including Joseph. I'm interested in contacting any of these descendants: JAMES HASLAM FRANCIS  " WILLIAM   SAMUEL ABRAHAM MARGARET GEORGE JAMES JACKSON Virginia in California

    01/15/2011 05:41:42
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. Muster of Jamestown Virginia 1625 Hi......how does one access this muster?? mary lou

    01/15/2011 03:21:34
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hi Stephanie I would contact some of the people who I found on Google that also have Pharoah in their tree, as at least one of them would have (hopefully) isolated the Sailing Schedule. The only clue I could see was the reference to the timing of the sailings having been in the reigns of James and Charles, going to New England. Finding out where sailing schedules from, say, England to New England, between the years of 24 July 1567 – 27 March 1625 (King James 1) and 27 March 1625 – 30 January 1649 (King Charles 1) is at least somewhere to start and end the search. The only other thing I noticed was that a couple of the names I entered in Google seemed to have a connection to Carribean Islands..... http://www.allcensus.com/original_lists_166.htm 12 December. Epaphroditus Houghton appointed Provost Marshall General of the Islands of St. Christopher's (Saint Kitts) - So don't limit yourself to just schedules from England :o) http://www.archive.org/stream/associationoathr00gand/associationoathr00gand_djvu.txt Association Oath Rolls : British Plantations. 1696. Captn of Smiths Fort Boaz Sharpe Of course, they could be a coincidence in the last case, but probably not in the first. Shame none of them are Pharoah though :o) Regards, Sally > > So they were not baptized together... they just traveled together. > > Now I just have to find that sailing list and the register in Yorks > with the one name. >

    01/15/2011 01:58:51
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. D. Howland
    3. I was able to find this search page. Hope it helps. http://www.virtualjamestown.org/Muster/muster24.html Daryl ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned) > Muster of Jamestown Virginia 1625 > > Hi......how does one access this muster?? > > mary lou > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    01/15/2011 01:44:02
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. Stephanie Ray
    3. Bob, unfortunately the few names that do come up are multiple, duplicate entries of records that are "submitted" by members of the LDS church, as opposed to actual parish records "extracted" by the church, which not considered to be as reliable, and in the case of my ancestor Pharaoh Flinton, seem to just be guesses as to the year of birth and a location of "England"! Best regards, Stephanie On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Bob Thornley <[email protected]> wrote: > >   I haven't been following this thread in detail, but I tried several of the >   names you mentioned in the IGI and found them all, in most cases running >   into dozens of instances. >   Try entering the names here: >   [1]http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/searc >   h_IGI.asp&clear_form=true >   Regards, >   Bob >   On 14/01/2011 23:04, Stephanie Ray wrote: > Remarkably, none of the names mentioned as being in the register are in the IGI > . > > References > >   1. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/15/2011 07:53:46
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. Stephanie Ray
    3. Sally, you just answered the question that I had... why would all those people who were BAPTIZED together later EMIGRATE together?! So they were not baptized together... they just traveled together. Now I just have to find that sailing list and the register in Yorks with the one name. Thank you so much. Stephanie On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 4:42 PM, sally roberts <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Stephanie, > > I may be a bit confused here, but, from the way I've read your quotations and from reading the article itself in the Internet Archive, I would think that the "one" register that is referred to is the sailing schedule as opposed to one parish register. > > As far as I can see, it doesn't state that its source is a parish register. For one area to produce such a diverse selection of puritanical christian names for people who then go on to travel to America strikes me as being a little unlikely. > > I'm imagining that the person who wrote for "Overland Monthly and Out West Magazine" in 1910 simply lifted the names from Mr Bardley's "Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature" written in 1888. > > Pharoah Flinton appears a number of times within Ancestry.com, as I'm sure you are already aware. But if you weren't aware of this fact, then it may be worth getting in touch with those researchers to compare notes. Other than that, he can be googled quite successfully, as with a moniker like that, he stands out somewhat :o) > > I wish you every luck with this. Uncommon names can be just as hard to tie down as common ones. > > Regards, > Sally > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- >> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:54:53 -0800 >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament >> >> Hello, all: >> >> I'm an Californian researching the English origins of my immigrant >> ancestors, two brother-in-laws who emmigrated to Jamestown, Virginia >> circa 1612/13. >> >> There are some tantalizing clues in the literature regarding the name >> of one of them, Pharaoh Flinton (a surgeon, according to the records >> of the Virginia Company of London), as follows: >> >> In "Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature" Charles W.E. Bardsley states: >> "This affection for the Old Testament has never died out among the >> Nonconformists. The large batch of names I have already quoted from >> modern directors is almost wholly from the earlier Testament... >> Wherever Dissent is strong, there will be found a large proportion of >> these names. Amongst the passengers who went out to New England in >> James and Charles's reigns will be found such names as Boaz Sharpe, >> Esau del a Ware, Pharaoh Flinton, ... Obediah Hawes, ... Malachi >> Mallock ... . Occasionally an ... Epaphroditus Haughton, ... or >> Annanias Mann is met with; but these are few ... . >> > >> Here we find in one register a "Boaz" Sharpe, "Pharaoh" Flinton, >> "Obadiah" Hawes, "Malachi" Mallock, "Epaphroditus" Haughton, >> "Annanias" Mann. Surely "Barabbas" was not a happy thought, still >> there was a "Barabbas" Bower in 1713." >> >> My question to the lists is whether or not anyone has heard of any of >> these particular names, and knows which parish register is being >> referred to? >> >> Thanks and regards, >> > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/15/2011 05:31:46
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. Stephanie Ray
    3. Thanks for the tip, Jennifer. I will check the book out. There was a lot of fluidity back and forth. I sometimes have a hard time convincing people that my other immigrant ancestor, Joseph COBB, baptized a child at St Bartholomew the Great in London in 1630 despite having appeared in the Muster of Jamestown Virginia 1625. On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 5:06 AM, Jennifer Harris <[email protected]> wrote: > for anyone looking into Puritans, another source worth considering is the book > _Pilgrims: new World Settlers and the Call of Home_ > > It looks at Puritans who returned to England--a substantial number--and utilizes sources previously ignored. It also reflects on those who stayed. > (My copy is at the office or I would have checked for the names.) > > Jennifer > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/15/2011 04:22:00
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] if looking into Puritans (and those who returned)
    2. Jennifer Harris
    3. for anyone looking into Puritans, another source worth considering is the book _Pilgrims: new World Settlers and the Call of Home_ It looks at Puritans who returned to England--a substantial number--and utilizes sources previously ignored. It also reflects on those who stayed. (My copy is at the office or I would have checked for the names.) Jennifer

    01/15/2011 02:06:04
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] [WRY] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. Bob Thornley
    3. I haven't been following this thread in detail, but I tried several of the names you mentioned in the IGI and found them all, in most cases running into dozens of instances. Try entering the names here: [1]http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/searc h_IGI.asp&clear_form=true Regards, Bob On 14/01/2011 23:04, Stephanie Ray wrote: Remarkably, none of the names mentioned as being in the register are in the IGI . References 1. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/search/frameset_search.asp?PAGE=igi/search_IGI.asp&clear_form=true

    01/15/2011 01:32:09
    1. Re: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hi Stephanie, I may be a bit confused here, but, from the way I've read your quotations and from reading the article itself in the Internet Archive, I would think that the "one" register that is referred to is the sailing schedule as opposed to one parish register. As far as I can see, it doesn't state that its source is a parish register. For one area to produce such a diverse selection of puritanical christian names for people who then go on to travel to America strikes me as being a little unlikely. I'm imagining that the person who wrote for "Overland Monthly and Out West Magazine" in 1910 simply lifted the names from Mr Bardley's "Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature" written in 1888. Pharoah Flinton appears a number of times within Ancestry.com, as I'm sure you are already aware. But if you weren't aware of this fact, then it may be worth getting in touch with those researchers to compare notes. Other than that, he can be googled quite successfully, as with a moniker like that, he stands out somewhat :o) I wish you every luck with this. Uncommon names can be just as hard to tie down as common ones. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 11:54:53 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Puritan names from the Old Testament > > Hello, all: > > I'm an Californian researching the English origins of my immigrant > ancestors, two brother-in-laws who emmigrated to Jamestown, Virginia > circa 1612/13. > > There are some tantalizing clues in the literature regarding the name > of one of them, Pharaoh Flinton (a surgeon, according to the records > of the Virginia Company of London), as follows: > > In "Curiosities of Puritan Nomenclature" Charles W.E. Bardsley states: > "This affection for the Old Testament has never died out among the > Nonconformists. The large batch of names I have already quoted from > modern directors is almost wholly from the earlier Testament... > Wherever Dissent is strong, there will be found a large proportion of > these names. Amongst the passengers who went out to New England in > James and Charles's reigns will be found such names as Boaz Sharpe, > Esau del a Ware, Pharaoh Flinton, ... Obediah Hawes, ... Malachi > Mallock ... . Occasionally an ... Epaphroditus Haughton, ... or > Annanias Mann is met with; but these are few ... . > > Here we find in one register a "Boaz" Sharpe, "Pharaoh" Flinton, > "Obadiah" Hawes, "Malachi" Mallock, "Epaphroditus" Haughton, > "Annanias" Mann. Surely "Barabbas" was not a happy thought, still > there was a "Barabbas" Bower in 1713." > > My question to the lists is whether or not anyone has heard of any of > these particular names, and knows which parish register is being > referred to? > > Thanks and regards, >

    01/14/2011 05:42:29
    1. [ENG-MAN] Fw: Lancs OPC update - 13 Jan 2011 plus a messageforQueensland members
    2. elizabeth kraus
    3. Thanking Sally for her kind thoughts. I too are not directly affected but viewing the disaster as it has unfolded and feeling for them all there. Elizabeth, Geelong Victoria ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leita" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lancs OPC update - 13 Jan 2011 plus a messageforQueensland members > Thank you for your thoughts, although I live in what is possibly the > driest > City in Aus it is terrible to see what is happening to the Eastern states > > Leita Port Augusta Sth Aus (ex Ashton-u-Lyne) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of sally roberts > Sent: Thursday, 13 January 2011 8:45 PM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lancs OPC update - 13 Jan 2011 plus a message > forQueensland members > > > > > Hello all, > > Before we get to the OPC information, and with the kind permission of the > List Admin, I just wanted to pass a message on to our Australian members, > some of whom may be having to deal with the awful consequences of the > appalling weather conditions. > > In England we are getting extensive coverage on the news of the flooding > tragedies and I, like many of our listers, would like to express my > sympathies and hope that you are not in any danger. You are in my > thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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