I got it :) Jenny ________________________________ From: lees jean <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 15:32:19 Subject: [ENG-MAN] A Test Sorry for the test but i am wondering if any of my messages are getting through to the list Jean in (Birmingham) ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

well this one did Jean Dee BREAST CANCER KILLS MEN & WOMEN CAN GET IT BE BREAST AWARE--GET CHECKED > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:32:19 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] A Test > > Sorry for the test but i am wondering if any of my messages are getting > through to the list > > > Jean in (Birmingham) > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I got it:-) Frank The Trouble With Political Jokes Is They Often get elected On 22/02/11 15:32, lees jean wrote: > Sorry for the test but i am wondering if any of my messages are getting > through to the list > > > Jean in (Birmingham) > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry for the test but i am wondering if any of my messages are getting through to the list Jean in (Birmingham)

Hi Marian: Post 1837 marriages should have the name and occupation of the fathers of the bride & groom - if they provided this information. Access to microfilm of the registers has become a little more difficult with the closing of Manchester Central Library's research room. Someone else may know what the current alternatives are. However, the LDS church has microfilmed these registers and you should be able to order the films from your local LDS Genealogy Library. You may want to check and see if your nearest LDS libraries actually already have the films. Other patrons may have ordered them permanently. Best wishes, Irene

Hi Jean The best way to find out if your messages are reaching the list is to look at the list's archives at http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/index/ENG-MANCHESTER/2011-02 If you've posted a message to the list and it's not in the list's archives, check to make sure that the message was sent in plain text (not MIME or HTML). If the message was sent in MIME or HTML, try sending it again in plain text. If you continue to have problems posting to the list, try sending an on topic message to the list and CC my private address. That way at least I'll get a copy and may be able to suss out the problem. Kind regards, Lynne list admin. lees jean wrote: >Sorry for the test but i am wondering if any of my messages are getting >through to the list > > >Jean in (Birmingham) >

I have found the following on the 1911 census-the only one that came up for Manchester Thomas Heeds-age 49 Publican (manager) Louisa age 46 wife Children Emma age 24----Thomas age 20----Edith age 20------Louisa age 14---Florie age 12----John age 10----Frank age 5---Violet age 6 months Hope this helps Brenda (Tasmania)

Hi Mary Lou, I was thinking along similar lines but perhaps a heavy engine used to operate a press in the forging of metal, he was at one time a Blacksmith. At one time I worked in an old factory machine shop in Ancoats, Manchester. This company used a 'Donkey' engine in its basement to drive a line shaft attached to the ceiling, it set all the machines in motion on the factory floor. It took over four minutes to set this beast in motion. In that time period there were a number of steam driven vehicles on the road. The steam roller was one, but also a local cotton mill had a steam driven truck/lorry making deliveries. It was a regular site on Ancoats lane. All in all, it makes me feel sure the person I am researching was not a Train driver. All my best and my thanks for your response. Mike Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, February 22, 2011 12:31:52 AM > > Hi Mike.....it is quite possible that he worked in the local mill: > > Stationary Engine Driver Operated steam factory engine, used for all > processes, usually linked by a system of shafts, pulleys and belts <snip> >

Hi Mike.....it is quite possible that he worked in the local mill: Stationary Engine Driver Operated steam factory engine, used for all processes, usually linked by a system of shafts, pulleys and belts I've seen this occupation many times for mill workers. mary lou In a message dated 2/20/2011 4:22:34 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Elizabeth, you have helped me prove I am working in the right area of Salford/Pendleton with the correct HULME family. The last record for a William Hulme is the child I a researching in the 1851 census age 1 year old living at No 6 Percival street in Collyhurst Manchester with his parents James and Elizabeth. I wonder what Engine he drove ? I don't have the impression it would be a train because I think this occupation would be listed as a Train driver. Thank you for looking these up for me, I don't know about the other names but perhaps they are relatives (brothers) of my Hulme family. I need to find out why it is the St Thomas records are not opening for me. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:30:05 PM > > These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but just >in case.... > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Pendleton/stthomas/index.html > > Baptism: 13 May 1845 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Henry Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: R Parsons Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 110, >Entry 871 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 26 Mar 1848 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Joseph Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: Lorenzo Smith Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 137, >Entry 1092 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 9 Dec 1849 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Thomas William Hulme - Son of James Hulme & Elizabeth > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Engine Driver > Baptised by: Ambse. Lane Incumbent > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 155, >Entry 1230 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 <snip> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all I am hoping to contacting some my family members who where on this Manchester list They are Stuart Basson and Ivy Murphy they are not answering my mails can anyone help me please Perhaps they are still watching these messages on there comps Thanking you all Eric Stewart

Mike said <Thank you Dee, I still cannot open the church site , but have received the eight Hulme records from our kind list members. However, I don't know what it is that is preventing me from opening this for myself. I have never had this problem before. Nothing comes up on my screen to say its blocked etc.But it looks like I cannot open any parish records no matter which church I click on. But I can open the various pages, till I get to the page with the info on it, its the last one that's giving me the problem for the church burials or weddings etc> Hi Mike That's an odd one. Glad you have the records but do shout if I can help further. Dee

Thank you Eric, that was interesting. My chap James HULME was listed as Blacksmith during the 1841 census, an engine driver in an 1849 Baptismal record and 1851 Manchester census. unfortunately he had died before the 1861 census. There were numerous steam engines in use in them days and I wonder if his occupation was in a factory or even a mine. I have a feeling that the early trains had Train drivers not Engine drivers. Kind regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: Eric Stewart <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 7:42:15 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lancashire Parish Records > > Hello Mike > Very Interesting. > Train Drivers 1844. > > Originally, however, the term stems from the Railway Regulation Act 1844. > Working people were increasingly travelling long distances to find > employment in the growing industrial centres. Such third class facilities as > there were consisted usually of open wagons, often without seats, nicknamed > "stanhopes". The Act was an attempt to make train travel available - and > safe - for those who could ill afford it. The Act set minimum standards for > passenger accommodation, and was influenced by the railway accident at > Sonning Cutting on Christmas Eve 1842 when nine stonemasons were thrown from > open wagons and killed. > Best Wishes > Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Morris > Sent: 20 February 2011 23:20 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lancashire Parish Records > > Hi Elizabeth, > you have helped me prove I am working in the right area of Salford/Pendleton > > with the correct HULME family. The last record for a William Hulme is the > child > I a researching in the 1851 census age 1 year old living at No 6 Percival > street > in Collyhurst Manchester with his parents James and Elizabeth. > > I wonder what Engine he drove ? I don't have the impression it would be a > train > because I think this occupation would be listed as a Train driver. > > Thank you for looking these up for me, I don't know about the other names > but > perhaps they are relatives (brothers) of my Hulme family. I need to find out > why > it is the St Thomas records are not opening for me. > > All my best > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > > To: [email protected] > > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:30:05 PM > > > > These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but > just > >in case.... > > > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Pendleton/stthomas/index.html > > > > Baptism: 13 May 1845 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > > Henry Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > > Abode: Pendleton > > Occupation: Dyer > > Baptised by: R Parsons Curate > > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page > 110, > >Entry 871 > > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > > > Baptism: 26 Mar 1848 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > > Joseph Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > > Abode: Pendleton > > Occupation: Dyer > > Baptised by: Lorenzo Smith Curate > > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page > 137, > >Entry 1092 > > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > > > Baptism: 9 Dec 1849 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > > Thomas William Hulme - Son of James Hulme & Elizabeth > > Abode: Pendleton > > Occupation: Engine Driver > > Baptised by: Ambse. Lane Incumbent > > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page > 155, > >Entry 1230 > > Source: LDS Film 1545552 <snip> > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike said <Does anyone know if its possible to open the Parish site and access BMD for St Thomas church in Ford Lane, Pendleton ? I have tried a number of times and nothing opens. Researching the name HULME in the late 1700's from the Pendleton area.> Hi Mike I had no problem accessing St Thomas, I checked for the name HULME and the first record is a baptism in 1845. There are 8 HULME records in total, let me know if you are still unable to access. Dee

Thank you Dee, I still cannot open the church site , but have received the eight Hulme records from our kind list members. However, I don't know what it is that is preventing me from opening this for myself. I have never had this problem before. Nothing comes up on my screen to say its blocked etc.But it looks like I cannot open any parish records no matter which church I click on. But I can open the various pages, till I get to the page with the info on it, its the last one that's giving me the problem for the church burials or weddings etc Regards Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- From: Dee Nightingale <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 5:21:14 AM I had no problem accessing St Thomas, I checked for the name HULME and the first record is a baptism in 1845. There are 8 HULME records in total, let me know if you are still unable to access. <snip>

Hello Mike Very Interesting. Train Drivers 1844. Originally, however, the term stems from the Railway Regulation Act 1844. Working people were increasingly travelling long distances to find employment in the growing industrial centres. Such third class facilities as there were consisted usually of open wagons, often without seats, nicknamed "stanhopes". The Act was an attempt to make train travel available - and safe - for those who could ill afford it. The Act set minimum standards for passenger accommodation, and was influenced by the railway accident at Sonning Cutting on Christmas Eve 1842 when nine stonemasons were thrown from open wagons and killed. Best Wishes Eric -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mike Morris Sent: 20 February 2011 23:20 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Lancashire Parish Records Hi Elizabeth, you have helped me prove I am working in the right area of Salford/Pendleton with the correct HULME family. The last record for a William Hulme is the child I a researching in the 1851 census age 1 year old living at No 6 Percival street in Collyhurst Manchester with his parents James and Elizabeth. I wonder what Engine he drove ? I don't have the impression it would be a train because I think this occupation would be listed as a Train driver. Thank you for looking these up for me, I don't know about the other names but perhaps they are relatives (brothers) of my Hulme family. I need to find out why it is the St Thomas records are not opening for me. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:30:05 PM > > These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but just >in case.... > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Pendleton/stthomas/index.html > > Baptism: 13 May 1845 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Henry Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: R Parsons Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 110, >Entry 871 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 26 Mar 1848 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Joseph Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: Lorenzo Smith Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 137, >Entry 1092 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 9 Dec 1849 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Thomas William Hulme - Son of James Hulme & Elizabeth > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Engine Driver > Baptised by: Ambse. Lane Incumbent > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 155, >Entry 1230 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 <snip> ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, It worked okay for me, are you using an old link by any chance? These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but just in case.... http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Pendleton/stthomas/index.html Baptism: 13 May 1845 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England Henry Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary Abode: Pendleton Occupation: Dyer Baptised by: R Parsons Curate Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 110, Entry 871 Source: LDS Film 1545552 Baptism: 26 Mar 1848 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England Joseph Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary Abode: Pendleton Occupation: Dyer Baptised by: Lorenzo Smith Curate Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 137, Entry 1092 Source: LDS Film 1545552 Baptism: 9 Dec 1849 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England Thomas William Hulme - Son of James Hulme & Elizabeth Abode: Pendleton Occupation: Engine Driver Baptised by: Ambse. Lane Incumbent Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 155, Entry 1230 Source: LDS Film 1545552 Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2011 12:15:09 -0800 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lancashire Parish Records > > Does anyone know if its possible to open the Parish site and access BMD for St > Thomas church in Ford Lane, Pendleton ? I have tried a number of times and > nothing opens. > > Researching the name HULME in the late 1700's from the Pendleton area. > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Sally, Thank you. This site also gave me some HULME burial records at St Thomas church. Thank you. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:30:05 PM > > It worked okay for me, are you using an old link by any chance? > > These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but just >in case.... <snip>

Hi Elizabeth, you have helped me prove I am working in the right area of Salford/Pendleton with the correct HULME family. The last record for a William Hulme is the child I a researching in the 1851 census age 1 year old living at No 6 Percival street in Collyhurst Manchester with his parents James and Elizabeth. I wonder what Engine he drove ? I don't have the impression it would be a train because I think this occupation would be listed as a Train driver. Thank you for looking these up for me, I don't know about the other names but perhaps they are relatives (brothers) of my Hulme family. I need to find out why it is the St Thomas records are not opening for me. All my best Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: sally roberts <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 4:30:05 PM > > These are the only ones for HULME and they aren't in your time line, but just >in case.... > > http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Salford/Pendleton/stthomas/index.html > > Baptism: 13 May 1845 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Henry Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: R Parsons Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 110, >Entry 871 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 26 Mar 1848 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Joseph Hulme - Son of George Hulme & Mary > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Dyer > Baptised by: Lorenzo Smith Curate > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 137, >Entry 1092 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 > > Baptism: 9 Dec 1849 St Thomas, Pendleton, Lancashire, England > Thomas William Hulme - Son of James Hulme & Elizabeth > Abode: Pendleton > Occupation: Engine Driver > Baptised by: Ambse. Lane Incumbent > Register: Baptisms 1844 - 1850 from the Bishop's Transcripts, Page 155, >Entry 1230 > Source: LDS Film 1545552 <snip>

Hi On the 1911 census living 8 Jersey Street Great Ancorts M/C Thomas Heeds b 1864 M/c Publican Louisa Heeds b 1865 Salford Children all born M/c Emma b 1887 Thomas b 1891 Edith b 1894 Louisa b 1897 Florrie b 1899 John b 1901 Frank b1906 Violet b 1911 Nephew Frank Groom b 1900 M/c Hope this helps Regards Pat >----Original Message---- >From: [email protected] >Date: 20/02/2011 13:43 >To: <[email protected]> >Subj: [ENG-MAN] HEEDS > >I am fairly sure that I am related to my close neighbours with the name >HEEDS. > >The vital link is John HEEDS b about 1901 in Manchester. I have his >ancestry. There is only one John HEEDS in 1911 and I am patiently awaiting >release of the 1911 to see the details of his parents and siblings to >confirm the link. > >Is anyone willing to do the 1911 look-up please ahead of the full release of >the census. > >Thank you, > >Eric MILLWARD. > > > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-MANCHESTER- [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am fairly sure that I am related to my close neighbours with the name HEEDS. The vital link is John HEEDS b about 1901 in Manchester. I have his ancestry. There is only one John HEEDS in 1911 and I am patiently awaiting release of the 1911 to see the details of his parents and siblings to confirm the link. Is anyone willing to do the 1911 look-up please ahead of the full release of the census. Thank you, Eric MILLWARD.