Thanks Sally, this is very useful! Marian ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2011 1:34 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Lancs OPC update - 10 Mar 2011 > > Hello Listers, > > Here are the latest set of records to be uploaded onto the OPC website > that I found on today's visit: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html > > > 9 March 2011 > > Marriages 1843 to 1865 from Christ Church in the Parish of Adlington > The first part of the Register of Marriages for 1843 to 1876 > > Marriages 1754 to 1812 from the Parish of Chipping -- *The OPC is aware > that the link for these records appears to be missing, and will be dealing > with this issue soon > > Burials 1681 to 1724 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene in the Parish of > Clitheroe > > Marriages 1841 to 1842 and 1870 to 1873 from the Church of St Mary the > Virgin, Eccles > > Marriages 1834 to 1837 from St David, Haigh > Replaces the previous which were just an index with the complete contents > from the Parish Registers > > Baptisms 1813 to 1841 from Holy Trinity Church, Horwich > > Banns 1832 to 1849 from the Church of St Andrew in the Parish of Leyland > > Baptisms 1813 to 1816, Marriages 1813 to 1816 and 1827 and Burials 1794 to > 1826 from the Parish of Penwortham > > Marriages 1932 to 1939 from the Church of St Augustine, Pendlebury > The completion of the Register of Marriages for 1926 to 1939 > > Marriages 1891 to 1894 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Salford > > Marriages 1722 to 1754 from the Parish of Samlesbury > > Baptisms 1876 to 1886 from St Peter, Swinton > > Marriages 1903 to 1909 from the Stowell Memorial Church, Weaste > > > Regards, > Sally > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ______________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by Netintelligence > http://www.netintelligence.com/email > > ______________________________________________ This email has been scanned by Netintelligence http://www.netintelligence.com/email

Hello Listers, Here are the latest set of records to be uploaded onto the OPC website that I found on today's visit: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 9 March 2011 Marriages 1843 to 1865 from Christ Church in the Parish of Adlington The first part of the Register of Marriages for 1843 to 1876 Marriages 1754 to 1812 from the Parish of Chipping -- *The OPC is aware that the link for these records appears to be missing, and will be dealing with this issue soon Burials 1681 to 1724 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene in the Parish of Clitheroe Marriages 1841 to 1842 and 1870 to 1873 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin, Eccles Marriages 1834 to 1837 from St David, Haigh Replaces the previous which were just an index with the complete contents from the Parish Registers Baptisms 1813 to 1841 from Holy Trinity Church, Horwich Banns 1832 to 1849 from the Church of St Andrew in the Parish of Leyland Baptisms 1813 to 1816, Marriages 1813 to 1816 and 1827 and Burials 1794 to 1826 from the Parish of Penwortham Marriages 1932 to 1939 from the Church of St Augustine, Pendlebury The completion of the Register of Marriages for 1926 to 1939 Marriages 1891 to 1894 from the Church of St Bartholomew, Salford Marriages 1722 to 1754 from the Parish of Samlesbury Baptisms 1876 to 1886 from St Peter, Swinton Marriages 1903 to 1909 from the Stowell Memorial Church, Weaste Regards, Sally

Hi Stephen I tried a search on this site, but couldn't come up with anything, unfortunately. I tried the surname, put 01/01/1860 as the date then 40 years to take the search up to 1900 [1]http://www.manchester.gov.uk/forms/form/584/search_burial_records Kind regards, Pam. References 1. http://www.manchester.gov.uk/forms/form/584/search_burial_records

Sally thanks very much for the replies and clues - I appreciate it and yes we did have the arrival listing cheers Stephen

My father has been researching the HOLINGER side of our family for many years. John HOLINGER b 1826 Switzerland - d 1 April 1883 in Chorlton John's first wife Jane TOWNSEND (b abt 1824-d 1857 in Chorlton) John's mother Anna HOLINGER (b abt 1801 Switzerland - d 1879 Chorlton) While we have many details about John HOLINGER's family by his 2 marriages both in Manchester, Australia and Switzerland, we have never been able to establish where John HOLINGER, Jane TOWNSEND (HOLINGER) or Anna HOLINGER are buried. The 1881 Census has John HOLINGER living at Willow Bank Withington Re, Dis. Chorlton Sub reg district Didsbury, while the FreeBMD lists death in 1883 as being registered in Chorlton any clues as to where we next can look? thank you Stephen

Hello again, Just as an aside to your burial question, I don't know if you have this information on John Holinger, so I'm posting it just in case : England, Alien Arrivals, 1810-1811, 1826-1869 Name: John Holinger Port of Arrival: London, England Arrival Date: 26 Apr 1847 Port of Departure: Le Havre, France Ship: Columbine Country of Origin/Native of: Switzerland Occupation: Merchant Probate Index Name: John Holinger Probate Date: 22 Aug 1883 Death Date: 1 Apr 1883 Death Place: Manchester, England Registry: Manchester Residences mentioned: City of Manchester and Oak Road, Withington £1,981 10s left to Mary Holinger, Widow and Relict of Oak Road Both of these records are from Ancestry.com and you'd have to be a subscriber to the service to view them. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:01:47 +1100 > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] HOLINGER burials > > My father has been researching the HOLINGER side of our family for many years. > > John HOLINGER b 1826 Switzerland - d 1 April 1883 in Chorlton > John's first wife Jane TOWNSEND (b abt 1824-d 1857 in Chorlton) > John's mother Anna HOLINGER (b abt 1801 Switzerland - d 1879 Chorlton) > > While we have many details about John HOLINGER's family by his 2 > marriages both in Manchester, Australia and Switzerland, we have > never been able to establish where John HOLINGER, Jane TOWNSEND > (HOLINGER) or Anna HOLINGER are buried. > > The 1881 Census has John HOLINGER living at Willow Bank Withington > Re, Dis. Chorlton Sub reg district Didsbury, while the FreeBMD lists > death in 1883 as being registered in Chorlton > > > any clues as to where we next can look? > > thank you > Stephen > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Stephen There is an extensive list of churches in the Didsbury area from the excellent Genuki website: http://www.genuki.org.uk/cgi-bin/churches?CCC=LAN,GR=SJ846903 One way to narrow down the possibilites is to order the death certificate and see if a residence is quoted so you could start with the nearest churches and work outwards. It may also help if you know what religion he followed - was he Catholic, Welseyan, Methodist, Baptist etc etc.? Do you know which church was used for marriages/baptisms and were they consistent with their use of it? I checked with the OPC website and currently they have registers transcribed for St James marriages, but it's worth checking the updates I send round as and when the databases are updated. I'm not affiliated to the OPC project in any way, just a big admirer of the hard work they do, so I don't have any information as to what future transcriptions are down for release, sadly. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:01:47 +1100 > To: [email protected] > From: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] HOLINGER burials > > My father has been researching the HOLINGER side of our family for many years. > > John HOLINGER b 1826 Switzerland - d 1 April 1883 in Chorlton > John's first wife Jane TOWNSEND (b abt 1824-d 1857 in Chorlton) > John's mother Anna HOLINGER (b abt 1801 Switzerland - d 1879 Chorlton) > > While we have many details about John HOLINGER's family by his 2 > marriages both in Manchester, Australia and Switzerland, we have > never been able to establish where John HOLINGER, Jane TOWNSEND > (HOLINGER) or Anna HOLINGER are buried. > > The 1881 Census has John HOLINGER living at Willow Bank Withington > Re, Dis. Chorlton Sub reg district Didsbury, while the FreeBMD lists > death in 1883 as being registered in Chorlton > > > any clues as to where we next can look? > > thank you > Stephen > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Morning all, Here are the latest updates from the OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 7 March 2011 Marriages 1754 to 1812 from the Parish of Caton Burials 1838 to 1867 from the Parish of Chatburn Marriages 1875 to 1892 from the Church of St Alban, Cheetham, Manchester Sunday School Admissions 1873 to 1903 from Salem Methodist New Connexion, Cheetham, Manchester Baptisms 1889 to 1957 and Marriages 1874 to 1885 from Victoria Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, Cheetham, Manchester Baptisms 1776 to 1800 and Burials 1678 to 1711 from St Michael in the Parish of Kirkham Burials 1872 to 1930 from Padiham Public Cemetery Burials 1870 and 1872 from St John in the Town of Preston Completing the Register of Burials for 1869 to 1872 Baptisms 1813 to 1816 from All Saints in the Town of Wigan Happy Hunting! Regards, Sally

The latest from Lancashire BMD - 8 March 2011 Amended 11,808 Births for Blackburn RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Blackburn Southern (1891-1899) ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Image sent to Diane off-list. The birth records are in different volumes for each year and maybe even each quarter of each year. So there's no relationship between the page numbers in different years. Perhaps someone who has seen the actual books can tell us what they look like. Are there any local registrars lurking on the list? Regards, Irene

I found Buxton street in the east side of Hulme. I thought it rung a bell and looked closer. Its on the east side of Oxford street. Not far from where I lived during the war years. I have sent you a section of a map that shows this street. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: Mike Morris <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Mon, March 7, 2011 5:29:17 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Location of streets and place defintions > > Buxton street was just a short distance south east of London road station and > ran south into London road. > > I have sent you this section of the map. > > To pin point some of the street locations, look for your relatives in the >census > > records and make a note of some of the surrounding street names. > > Mike Morris > Toronto Canada

Buxton street was just a short distance south east of London road station and ran south into London road. I have sent you this section of the map. To pin point some of the street locations, look for your relatives in the census records and make a note of some of the surrounding street names. Mike Morris Toronto Canada ----- Original Message ---- > From: dick thickett <[email protected]> > To: Eng-Man <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, March 3, 2011 12:12:49 PM > > I have been trying to relate the various house moves of my > grgrandmother Harriet Thickett/Haigh around the area Hulme and Gorton > area > 3rd address: 26 Buxton Street. I have a death Certificate with this > address on Registration District : Manchester; Sub District : > Manchester. Unfortunately the registrar did not indicate a place for > thisstreet and I have been unable to find it. <snipped>

That you Irene for finding my Mary RIDING Dicken's in the 1911 Census at 915 Chester Road, Stretford, Lancashire. Ancestry.com only allows me an index, Mr? M Dickens at 915 Chester Road, Stretford, 2 males and 2 females. Sadly there isn't any more information listed online. Checking the Manchester birth records(which I assume were sent to the central registration office) Edith Dickens has 1883, Oct-Dec Manchester, 8d, pg 216 and Catherine Dickens has 1885, Jul-Sep Manchester, 8d pg 213. Why would the 1885 birth's page number be before 1883? William Dickens has 1895, Oct-Dec, Manchester, 8d pg 229. Diane RIDING Ball

The latest from Lancashire BMD - 18 February 2011 Added 9,496 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Saint George (1859-1864) Amended 43,661 Births for Wigan and Leigh RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Ashton (1920-1928); Aspull (1888-1951); Billinge (1904-1918); Culcheth (1905-1924); Hindley (1855-1864); Standish (1837-1859); Wigan (1866-1873) ~~ 22 February 2011 Added 6,022 Marriages for Preston RD comprising: Leyland, St Ambrose (1987-2007); Leyland, St Andrew (1983-1991); Leyland, St James (1983-2003); Ashton on Ribble, St Andrew (1980-1992); Ashton, St Michael & All Angels (1974-2003); Bamber Bridge, St Aidan (1983-2008); Barton, St Lawrence (1988-2004); Brookfield, Church of Ascension (1960-1979); Broughton, St John (1982-1998); Fulwood, Christ Church (1989-2008); Fulwood, St Cuthbert (1982-2003); Goosnargh, St Mary (1985-1999); Higher Walton, All Saints (1982-1999); Hoole, St Michael (1986-2006); Longton, St Andrew (1985-2009); Lostock Hall, St James (1987-1994); New Longton, All Saints (1977-1996); Penwortham, St Mary (1984-2008); Penwortham, St Leonard (1985-1992); Preston, All Saints (1968-2008); Preston, St Jude with St Paul (1966-1999); Preston, St Mary (1964-1993); Preston, St Mathew (1983-2001); Preston, St Oswald (now Worship Centre) (now Worship Centre), registers at Preston (1971-1992); Salmesbury, St Leonard the Less (1974-1998); Walton le Dale, St Leonard (1988-2009); Woodplumpton, St Anne (1991-2000); Longridge, St Paul (1967-1998); Ribchester, St Wilfred (1987-2006); Leyland, St John (1987-1995); Balderston, St Leonard (1976-1995); Mellor, St Mary (1979-2010); Salesbury, St Peter (1985-1989); Leyland, Methodist, Turpin Green Lane (2002-2004); Leyland, Methodist, Leyland Lane (1996-2006); Preston, Methodist, Eldon Street (1988-2005); Preston, Methodist, Walmer Bridge (1984-2000); Goosnargh, Inglewhite Chapel (1986-2009) Added 3,115 Marriages for Rochdale RD comprising: Sudden, St Aidan (1926-1974); Bamford, St Michael (1912-1974); Castleton Moor, St Martin (1926-1974); Heap Bridge, St George (1926-1974); Hopwood, St John (1912-1974) ~~ 23 February 2011 Added 19,757 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Newchurch (1872-1895) ~~ 5 March 2011 Added 2,550 Births for Bury RD comprising: Prestwich (1896-1902); Radcliffe (1878-1885) ~ ~ ~ ~ Yorkshire and Cheshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Hi Irene, Thanks, I think you are probably right. Christine -----Original Message----- From: Irene Marlborough Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Jane Emma ADSHEAD, Occupation in 1901? Hi Christine: I believe it says S. Wind. which would be a silk winder. You can see that her father was formerly a silk warper so that would fit. Best wishes, Irene ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, Jane Emma BROADIE was born 1869 in Manchester and married William Henry ADSHEAD. In 1901 she is living at 39, Fairfield Street, Manchester with her husband and her father, another William, and a couple of boarders. There is something in the occupation column for Jane Emma I cannot read. Any ideas appreciated. Christine

Hi Diane: I can't answer your question but perhaps can shed some light. In 1911, the family from 1901 is at Chester Road, Stretford. Edward has apparently died but luckily his widow Mary has filled in the marriage information in error. She states that she was married for 30 years and that there are 3 children still living and 4 that have died. She did not give the total number of children born alive. This would mean that for the 1901 family, that particular Mary is not a second wife. Also 30 years matches the marriage date of 1881 for Edward Dickens and Mary Riding. The question remains - where are Edith and Catherine in 1891? It's possible they were with grandparents or other relatives and the surname got mangled. Keep looking! Best wishes, Irene

Hi Listers, I thought I would introduce myself. My BIRMINGHAM ancestors look like they hail from the Manchester area. Furthest back I have so far is my 4th Great grandfather Peter. Not sure where or when he was born only child I have found so far is my 3rd GGfather John b abt 1823 in Manchester who married Ellen GORMAN who had 7 Children all born in Manchester. Is anyone researching this line? Thanks Nicci

Could someone check the trade manuals to see if there are two Glass Blowers, named Edward Dickins/Dickens, born abt 1850 in Manchester. He married my Mary Riding, born abt 1860 in Salford. The 1891 Census and the 1901 Census don't seem to be quite the same family. 1850 Census, Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 1h, 3 Robinson Court Dickins, William mar, 28/24, glass blower, born Manchester? Martha, wife, mar, 24, born Lancashire, Warrington Ed'wd, son, 5mo, born Manchester 1861 Census, Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 11, 36 Blossom St Dickins, William, mar, 36, glass manufacturer, born Ireland Martha, wife, mar, 34, born Warrington Edward, son, 9, born Manchester William, son, 6, born Manchester John, son, 3, born Manchester Mary E, dau, 3 mo, born Manchester next building is St Peters Church Might I find that as their church? 1871 Census, St Peter, Ancoats, Dist 11, 52 Blossom St Dickens, William, 48, glass manufacturer, born Ireland Martha, wife, 45, born Warrington William, son, 18, born Manchester John, son, 15, born Manchester Mary, dau, 10, born Manchester Edward, son, 20, glass manufacturer, Manchester 1881 Census, Manchester, St George Dist 2, 16 Manhall? St Dickens, Edward, mar, 28, glass blower, born Manchester Mary, wife, mar, 20, born Salford 1891Census, Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 27, 92 Poll? St Dickens, Ed, mar, 38, glass maker, born Manchester Mary, wife, mar, 28, born Salford Kewley, James, border, 3, born Manchester 1901 Census, Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 23, 92 St Vinecut? St Dickens, Edward, mar, 48, glass maker, born Manchester Mary, wife, mar, 38, born Salford Edith, dau, 17, born Manchester Catherine, dau, 15, born Manchester William, son, 5, born Manchester The children in the 1901 Census don't fit the 1891 Census. Are there two Edward Dickins/Dickens that manufacture glass or are glass blowers born in Manchester?

Hi Christine: I believe it says S. Wind. which would be a silk winder. You can see that her father was formerly a silk warper so that would fit. Best wishes, Irene