Hi I'm hoping someone maybe able to help me please. I'm looking for a John BRIERCLIFFE or BRITCLIFFE on the 1841 Census. I'm not sure of John's details re birth or age or death but someone has told me that a JOHN BRI-----ITT is entered on the 1841 Census exactly as that. His wife Hannah Briercliffe (spelt Bricliffe on 1841 Census) is living with one of their daughters Elizabeth in the Deansgate/Salford area in Cumberland St. John is not at this residence though. John Briercliffe and Hannah Belfield were married in Rochdale in 1825 no ages given though for either of them. I did find one John Briercliffe born in 1802 to James and Hannah Speakman in Manchester (This James was a farmer). I haven't been able to find an exact birth for John Briercliffe though as I don't have anything else to verify it with. I'm still trying to find his death after 1833 the family were living in the Salford and Manchester areas at this time. John and Hannah's daughter Charlotte died in 1834 in Manchester ( Registered at the Collegiate church Manchester) details of this particular John would be very much appreciated. Kind regards Dianna

I'm trying to find out where Andrew Flanagan lived in Manchester and when he immigrated there from Ireland. He married Sarah Mathews in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England 04 Jan 1832. Father: Patrick Flanagan Marie Family Group Sheet for Andrew Flanagan Sr. Husband: Andrew Flanagan Sr. Birth: 1802 Townland of Srahaunnagort (Thornfield), county Galway, barony Killian, civil parish Athleague, PLU Mountbellew, province of Connaught, Ireland Death: 28 Feb 1870 in Long Island City, Queens, New York, USA Burial: Feb 1870 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Marriage: 04 Jan 1832 in West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England to Sarah Mathews Father: Patrick Flanagan Mother: Cecily Galvin Wife: Sarah A. Mathews Birth: 23 Mar 1805 in Warwickshire, England Death: 27 Sep 1877 in Long Island City, Queens, New York, USA Burial: Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Father: John Mathews Mother: Mary Children: Name: Hannah Flanagan Birth: 1832 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Death: 1834 in Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Name: James Flanagan Born 19 Jan 1835 in Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA Death: 23 May 1891 in Long Island City, Queens, New York, USA Marriage: 14 Feb 1863 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Spouse: Bridget Delahanty Name: John Flanagan Born 23 Dec 1837 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Death: 24 Mar 1871 Name: Andrew Joseph Flanagan Jr. Born 15 Jun 1839 in Long Island City, Queens, New York, USA Death: 21 Dec 1921 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Marriage: 12 Oct 1865 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA to Adelaide Exertier Name: Katherine Flanagan Born 17 Sep 1840 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Death: 21 Jun 1888 in Omaha, Douglas, Nebraska, USA Marriage: Abt. 1858 in Brookline, MA? Spouse: Edmund John Butler Name: Bridget Amelia Flanagan Born 27 Dec 1842 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Death: 19 Feb 1915 in Freeport, Nassau, New York, USA Marriage: Abt. 02 Oct 1865 in Astoria, Queens, New York, USA Spouse: George Morgan Jones Sr.

>From Lancashire BMD - 2 June 2011 - Added 6,006 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Market Street (1837-1844) - Added 1,823 Births for North Sefton RD comprising: Formby (1847-1851); North Meols (1847-1851) - Amended 30,989 Births for Wigan & Leigh RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Lowton (1856-1878); Hindley (1874-1878); Standish (1884-1901); Wigan (1879-1885) - Added 7,997 Deaths for Oldham RD comprising: Oldham Above Town (1861-1871) - Added 10,476 Marriages for Bolton RD comprising: Bolton, Friends Meeting House (1987-1988); Bolton, Tonge Moor Congregational Church, Starkie Road (1988-1992); Egerton, Congregational Chapel / Utd Reformed Church (1987-1992); Bolton, St Paul, Astley Bridge (1987-1992); Bolton, Hebron Hall, Mayor Street / Gospel Hall, Commission Street (1991-1991); Little Lever, Wesleyan Methodist Church, Herbert Street / Wesleyan Chapel, Mytham Road (1987-1992); Farnworth, Congregational Church, Albert Road (1987-1992); Kearsley, Wesleyan Chapel, Manchester Road (1987-1992); Bolton, Bank Street Chapel (1988-1992); Bolton, Zion Baptist Church, St John Street (1990-1990); Blackrod, St Katherine (1987-1992); Farnworth, Congregational Church, Market Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Congregational Church, Chorley Old Road / Avondale Street (1987-1990); Bolton, Daubhill Wesleyan Chapel, St Helens Road, Rumworth (1987-1992); Bolton, Wesleyan Church, Chorley Old Road, Smithills (1987-1992); Bolton, Delph Hill Wesleyan Chapel, Smithills (1987-1992); Bolton, Trinity Methodist Chapel, Tonge / Wesleyan Chapel, Bury Road, Tonge (1987-1992); Bolton, Emmanuel Parish Church (1987-1992); Horwich, Lee Chapel, Lee Lane (1987-1990); Harwood, Primitive Methodist Chapel, Tottington Road (1987-1991); Bolton, Congregational Church, Blackburn Road (1987-1987); Harwood, Wesleyan Chapel, Longsight (1987-1992); Blackrod, Wesleyan Methodist Chapel, New Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Deane Congregational Church (1987-1991); Horwich, Independent Methodist Chapel, Lee Lane (1988-1992); Bolton, St Bede (1987-1992); Bolton, Mornington Presbyterian Church, Somerset Road / Somerset Road URC (1987-1992); Bolton, St Georges Road Congregational Church (1987-1992); Westhoughton, Bethel Chapel, Park Road (1987-1992); Bolton, St Matthew (1987-1992); Bolton, Wesleyan Chapel, Seymour Road, Astley Bridge (1987-1992); Little Lever, Independent Chapel, Market Street (1987-1991); Horwich, New Chapel (1987-1992); Bolton, Utd Reformed Church, Bank Top, Sharples (1987-1992); Bolton, Independent Methodist Chapel, Dixon Street (1988-1992); Bolton, St Paul, Deansgate (1987-1990); Turton, Wesleyan Chapel, Birtenshaw (1987-1992); Bolton, Halliwell Road Free Church (1988-1992); Kearsley, New Jerusalem Church, Bolton Road (1987-1992); Bolton, Victoria Hall, Knowsley Street (1987-1992); Horwich, Brunswick Chapel, Victoria Road (1987-1991); Bolton, St Peter (1987-1992); Egerton, Walmsley Unitarian Chapel (1987-1992); Bolton, Methodist Church, Bury Road, Breightmet (1987-1992); Bolton, Holiness Tabernacle, Southend Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Halliwell Methodist Chapel, Harvey Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Castle Hill Methodist Church/St Andrews Methodist Church, Tonge Moor Road (1987-1991); Bolton, St Philip (1987-1992); Bolton, Bethel Church, Albert Place, Clarence Street (1991-1991); Bolton, Methodist School Chapel, St Helens Road (1987-1992); Bolton, St Columba's Church, Ripley Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Rose Hill Congregational Church, Bradford Road (1987-1992); Westhoughton, Westhoughton Methodist Church, Wigan Road (1987-1992); Bolton, Methodist Church, Melbourne Road, Deane (1987-1992); Bolton, Methodist Chapel, Plodder Lane (1987-1990); Bolton, SS Simon & Jude (1987-1992); Farnworth, Our Lady of Lourdes Catholic Church, Plodder Lane (1987-1992); Bolton, Congregational Church, Red Lane (1987-1991); Horwich, Methodist Chapel (1990-1990); Bolton, Methodist Chapel, Chew Moor, Lostock (1987-1992); Bolton, St Thomas of Canterbury (1987-1992); Bolton, Lee Clough Mission, Old Road, Astley Bridge (1987-1992); Bolton Le Moors, Holy Trinity (1987-1990); Bolton, St Ethelbert, Hawthorne Street (1987-1992); Bolton, St William of York, Lever Edge Lane (1987-1992); Bolton, Kingdom Hall, Jethro Street (1987-1992); Westhoughton, Sacred Heart Church, Lord Street (1987-1992); Bolton, St Osmond's Catholic Church (1987-1992); Farnworth, Baptist Chapel (1987-1992); Bolton, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, Gaskell Street (1987-1989); Bolton, St Mary, Chorley New Road (1987-1992); Bolton, Kingdom Hall, Moss Bank Way (1987-1990); Bradshaw, St Maxentius (1987-1992); Bromely Cross, St John the Evangelist, The Crescent (1987-1992); Bolton, St Mary, Palace Street (1987-1987); Bolton, St Patrick, Great Moor Street (1987-1992); Bolton, Bolton Pentecostal Church, Crawford Street (1989-1992); Bolton, Independent Methodist Chapel, Chalfont Street (1987-1990); Bolton, St Brendan's R C Church (1987-1992); Bolton, St Gregory the Great (1987-1992); Bolton, Utd Reformed Church, Bury Road (1988-1988); Westhoughton, Independent Methodist Church, Dicconson Lane (1987-1992); Bolton, Holy Infant & St Anthony, Baxendale Street (1987-1992); Bolton, St George the Martyr (1987-1991); Daubhill, Rose Hill Kingdom Hall, Noble St. (1987-1992); Bolton, Claremont, St Georges Road (1987-1992); Little Lever, Kingdom Hall, Mytham Road (1988-1991); Bolton, SS Peter & Paul R C Church (1987-1992); Bolton, St Edmund's Church (1989-1992); Bolton, St Mary the Virgin, Deane Parish Church (1987-1992); Bolton, St Thomas, Dixon Green (1987-1991); Farnworth, All Saints (1989-1992); Farnworth & Kearsley Parish Church, St John The Evangelist (1987-1992); Farnworth, St Peter (1987-1992); Bolton, St Michael, Great Lever (1987-1992); Bolton, St Luke, Halliwell (1987-1992); Bolton, St Margaret, Halliwell (1987-1992); Bolton, St Paul, Halliwell (1987-1992); Bolton, St Peter, Halliwell (1987-1992); Bolton, St Thomas, Halliwell (1987-1992); Bolton, Smithills Hall Chapel (1987-1992); Harwood, Christ Church (1987-1992); Bolton, Christ Church, Heaton (1987-1992); Horwich, Holy Trinity Church (1987-1992); Horwich, St Catherine (1987-1992); Horwich, St Elizabeth (1987-1992); Kearsley, St Stephen (1987-1992); Bolton, St Stephen, Lever Bridge (1987-1992); Little Lever, St Mathew (1987-1992); Bolton, St Thomas & St John, Lostock (1987-1992); Farnworth, St James, New Bury (1987-1992); Over Hulton, St Andrew (1988-1991); Prestolee, The Holy Trinity Church (1987-1992); Ringley, St Saviours (1987-1992); Bolton, St James, Breightmet (1987-1992); Bolton, St Chad, Tonge Fold (1987-1992); Bolton, St Augustine, Tonge Moor (1987-1992); Bolton, St Aidan, Hall i'th Wood (1987-1992); Breightmet, St John the Evangelist [Top o'th' Moss], Breightmet Dve/Brodick Dve (1987-1990); Walmsley, Christ Church (1987-1992); Westhoughton, St Bartholomew (1987-1992); Westhoughton, St James (1987-1992); Westhoughton, St John, Wingates (1987-1992); Bolton Register Office or Registrar Attended (1987-1992 ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Bless your busy little typing fingers! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Sally puts me to shame (again!) -- I'm waaaaaaay behind on sending these updates to you. From Lancashire BMD - 20 April 2011 - Added 13,427 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Preesall (1937-1969); St. Michael (1837-1937); Warton (1901-1919); Wray (1918-1937) - Added 63,009 Births for Liverpool RD comprising: Walton Park (1934-1957) - Added 503 Births for Oldham RD comprising: Oldham Third (1954-1955) - Added 9,553 Deaths for Burnley RD comprising: Nelson (1936-1954) - Added 28,822 Deaths for Hyndburn RD comprising: Newchurch (1837-1895) - Added 953 Marriages for North Sefton RD comprising: St Marie's on the Sands (2009-2010); Methodist Church Leyland Road (2009-2010); St Philip & St Paul with Wesley SB Scarisbrick New Road (2009-2009); Grace Baptist Church Princes Street (2009-2009); Baptist Church Scarisbrick New Road (2009-2009); St. Teresa RC Church Everton Road (2009-2010); Methodist Church, Liverpool Road (2009-2010); Holy Family RC Church, Brompton Road (2009-2010); Elim Pentecostal Church Manchester Road (2001-2009); Shoreline Church 9 Mornington Road (2009-2010); Methodist and United Reformed Church Lord Street West (2009-2010); Our Lady of Lourdes, Waterloo Road (2010-2010); Christadelphian Hall GF, 51 Part Street (2009-2009); Church of Jesus Christ Latter Day Saints (2009-2010); Kingdom Hall, 30 Duke Street (2009-2010); St. John Stone's RC Church, Sandbrook Way (2009-2010); St Jerome's RC Church, Wicks Lane, Formby (2009-2010); Our Lady of Compassion Formby (2009-2010); St Patrick's RC Church, Marshside Road (2009-2010); Family Life Centre Ash Street (2009-2009); Catholic Chapel Ince Blundell (2009-2009); Church of the Sacred Heart, Liverpool Road (2010-2010); The Church of St. Francis of Assisi (2010-2010); St Anne's RC Chapel (2010-2010); Kingdom Hall of Jehovahs Witnesses, Formby (2009-2009); St Josephs Saxon Road (2009-2010); St George's Church Lord Street (2009-2009); Methodist Church Marshside Road (2009-2010); Ainsdale St. John (2009-2010); Southport All Saints (2010-2010); Southport Christ Church (2009-2010); Southport Emmanuel (2009-2010); Southport Holy Trinity (2009-2010); Southport St Philip & St Paul (2009-2009); Southport St Simon & St Jude with All Souls (2010-2010); Southport St Francis (2010-2010); Birkdale St. James (2009-2010); Birkdale St John (2009-2010); Birkdale St Peter (2009-2010); Crossens St John (2009-2010); Formby Holy Trinity (2009-2010); Formby St Luke (2009-2010); Formby St Peter (2009-2010); North Meols St Cuthbert (2009-2010); Register Office or Registrar Attended (2009-2010) 23 April 2011 - Added 25,257 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Eastern Bolton (1877-1886); Edgworth (1868-1880); Farnworth (1856-1861); Great Bolton (1886-1887); Horwich (1837-1938); Little Bolton (1856-1857); Lever (1853-1857); Little Hulton (1890-1896); Sharples (1871-1877); Western Bolton (1843-1844) - Added 9,211 Births for Hyndburn RD comprising: Edenfield (1837-1895) - Added 49,742 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Garstang (1864-1937); Lancaster (1912-1926); Heaton (1919-1919); Morecambe (1919-1937) - Added 26,536 Births for Manchester RD comprising: Saint George (1889-1902) - Added 3,711 Births for Trafford RD comprising: Stretford (1926-1934) (Copied from CheshireBMD) - Added 14,215 Deaths for Lancaster RD comprising: Morecambe (1945-1959); Preesall (1937-1954); Wray (1837-1937); Caton (1969-1974) - Added 5,815 Marriages for Rochdale RD comprising: Rochdale Register Office or Registrar Attended (1926-1940) 25 April 2011 - Added 23,045 Births for Lancaster RD comprising: Lancaster (1926-1951) Stay tuned for the latest June update. It's a whopper! ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Hi, Noticed a John BRI???, aged 25 (probably rounded off) at Salford Union, RG number H0107, piece 586, book/folio 7/36, page 17. Sadly the whole page is very difficult to read but it might be him. The surname is certainly longer than the "BRI???" and there looks like there is an "i" near the end of it. Sorry I can help more but it might be worth trying to see the original page or a good copy somewhere. Best wishes, Charles

Hello Listers, Today's visit to the Lancashire Online Parish Clerks website found the following databases have been added: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 1 June 2011 Marriages 1868 to 1870 from the Church of St Michael-in-the-Hamlet, in the district of Aigburth, Liverpool Baptisms 1873 to 1896 from the Church of St Mary, in the district of Hale, Liverpool Marriages 1861 to 1914 from the Church of the Holy Innocents, Kensington, Liverpool Marriages 1802 and 1803 from the Church of St Nicholas, Liverpool Marriages 1835 to 1837 from the Church of St John Haymarket, Liverpool Baptisms 1737 to 1754 and 1832 to 1833 and Burials 1737 to 1748 from the Church of St Peter, Liverpool Baptisms 1935 to 1937 and Marriages 1913 to 1939 from the Church of St Thomas, Seaforth, Liverpool A continuation of the Register of Baptisms for 1930 to 1937 Baptisms 1884 to 1893 from the Church of St John the Baptist, Toxteth, Liverpool Regards from a warm and sunny Buckinghamshire, Sally

I think the Ancestry image for this page is clearer than the one on FMP. I think the surname certainly begins with BRIT and I could be persuaded that it says BRITLIFFE. I'm less sure about the age but think that the occupation might be Warehouseman. I believe that he was not born in county - an N in the "whether born in county" field.   Best wishes, Irene   From: Charles Gunther <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2011 10:52 AM >Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] 1841 Census > >Hi, >Noticed a John BRI???, aged 25 (probably rounded off) at Salford Union, RG >number H0107, piece 586, book/folio 7/36, page 17. Sadly the whole page is very >difficult to read but it might be him. The surname is certainly longer than the >"BRI???" and there looks like there is an "i" near the end of it. > >Sorry I can help more but it might be worth trying to see the original page or a >good copy somewhere. > >Best wishes, >Charles >  >  > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hi Anne, Thanks, I think I just needed confirmation from someone else. And you have got the right chap. I just wish the family hadn't been called HILL! Thanks again, Christine -----Original Message----- From: anne walsh Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2011 7:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] Joseph HILL - occupation Hi Christine---it looks like farmer to me,and if I've found the right chap in earlier census it fits as he is a cattle dealer 1861-71 and a butcher 1881. HTH,Anne

Hi Christine---it looks like farmer to me,and if I've found the right chap in earlier census it fits as he is a cattle dealer 1861-71 and a butcher 1881. HTH,Anne On 1 June 2011 17:16, Christine Benson <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi All, > > Can SKS have a look at the occupation of Joseph HILL b 1829 living with > sister Mary A. MOORHOUSE at 20 Parsonage Road, Withington on the 1891 > census > RG12/3162 page 8 and tell me what they think his occupation is. I thought > it > said "Farmer" but the more I enlarge it the less certain I am as there seem > to be more letters at the front and the initial letter does not look like > "F". > > Also has anyone any connections to Edwin MOORHOUSE b 1829 Undeby, Yorkshire > but lived Manchester area, (husband of Mary Ann HILL, above), who I have > just discovered. > > Any help greatly appreciated. > > Christine > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi All, Can SKS have a look at the occupation of Joseph HILL b 1829 living with sister Mary A. MOORHOUSE at 20 Parsonage Road, Withington on the 1891 census RG12/3162 page 8 and tell me what they think his occupation is. I thought it said "Farmer" but the more I enlarge it the less certain I am as there seem to be more letters at the front and the initial letter does not look like "F". Also has anyone any connections to Edwin MOORHOUSE b 1829 Undeby, Yorkshire but lived Manchester area, (husband of Mary Ann HILL, above), who I have just discovered. Any help greatly appreciated. Christine

Hi Jean, I can't shed any light on John's parentage except to suggest that DNA might be a route to go if you can find the right relations for it. Those relations, of course, might have their own family stories to add which might help. I started looking at Katie Augusta HUGHES but would like some clarification. I gather John is your father's name. I do not understand the sentence "It is alleged that John was a business man and wanted to marry Katie ..." - marry his mother? - I don't understand or have I misread it? Is the tree on Ancestry yours? If so you know that Katie was born in Wales. FreeBMD has her born 1875. Have you got her birth certificate? I have looked at Katie in Wales and have found 2 possibles; Katie the niece of Hugh HUGHES, a farmer in 1891 and Kate the daughter of John HUGHES a cabinet maker in 1881. But I don't know whether you have researched this already. HUGHES is a common Welsh name and there may be others if I were to look more thoroughly. There is another tree on Ancestry which says Kate Augusta HUGHES married a HUGHES and a lot of Catherine HUGHES with a father Hugh so I may be chasing the wrong Katie. When is it alleged that Katie was made a ward of state - is this supported by evidence and if so what, or is it a family story? Was it as a child or as an adult? That info and birth and census records would help focus the mind in the right direction. Having said that I do not know anything about "ward of state" except what I find when I Google it. She does not appear to have been an orphan in 1881 and was living with an uncle in 1891 if I have the correct census. Could it be that she wanted to marry without parental permission? Could she have suffered from post-natal depression, not well understood at the time? I am happy to look further but I don't want to repeat what you have already found and feel I may be doing that. Regards, Christine -----Original Message----- From: Jean Hughes Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2011 4:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-MAN] Mitchell - Hughes Hi, My name is Jean and my birth surname is Hughes. My father was born 11.12.1911 with Mitchell as his surname, and his address on the birth cert. is 173 Earl St., West Gorton, South Manchester. His father is listed as George Mitchell, but there is rumour he wasn't the father. I had hoped the 1911 census might have revealed something, but I have only done the free searches and found most of the known family at Chorlton, but no John (alleged name) at any address with a known family member at that address. Dad's mother, Katie Augusta Mitchell nee Hughes, alledgedly changed her name back to Hughes sometime after, because all the siblings bar one, became Hughes. That one that stayed Mitchell was because he had already left home. Other sublings I have searched to confirm Chorlton are Ivor, Florence and Gladys. It is alleged that John was a business man and wanted to marry Katie, but apparently George kept turning up and she left for the Isle of Man, and John wouldn't go. So if there is any way I can find out about John, it would be most appreciated. I don't want to do research on the Mitchell line if he is not blood related. Katie & George were married and registered at The Registrar office in Chorlton district in the counties of Manchester and Lancaster. Marriage was 10.5.1893, with their addresses being listed as his: 6 Boundary St., Hulme, father - John Mitchell (deceased), shoemaker, and hers: 22 Tuer St. Chorlton upon Medlock, father Hugh Hughes - publican. Earlier, it is alleged that Katie was made something like a ward of the state. I was wondering if there would be any records available for what that was about. If anyone can help with any information to add to the above, it would be most appreciated. kind regards Jean Hughes NSW. Australia.

Hi, My name is Jean and my birth surname is Hughes. My father was born 11.12.1911 with Mitchell as his surname, and his address on the birth cert. is 173 Earl St., West Gorton, South Manchester. His father is listed as George Mitchell, but there is rumour he wasn't the father. I had hoped the 1911 census might have revealed something, but I have only done the free searches and found most of the known family at Chorlton, but no John (alleged name) at any address with a known family member at that address. Dad's mother, Katie Augusta Mitchell nee Hughes, alledgedly changed her name back to Hughes sometime after, because all the siblings bar one, became Hughes. That one that stayed Mitchell was because he had already left home. Other sublings I have searched to confirm Chorlton are Ivor, Florence and Gladys. It is alleged that John was a business man and wanted to marry Katie, but apparently George kept turning up and she left for the Isle of Man, and John wouldn't go. So if there is any way I can find out about John, it would be most appreciated. I don't want to do research on the Mitchell line if he is not blood related. Katie & George were married and registered at The Registrar office in Chorlton district in the counties of Manchester and Lancaster. Marriage was 10.5.1893, with their addresses being listed as his: 6 Boundary St., Hulme, father - John Mitchell (deceased), shoemaker, and hers: 22 Tuer St. Chorlton upon Medlock, father Hugh Hughes - publican. Earlier, it is alleged that Katie was made something like a ward of the state. I was wondering if there would be any records available for what that was about. If anyone can help with any information to add to the above, it would be most appreciated. kind regards Jean Hughes NSW. Australia.

I am looking for any information or a contact for Alexander Richardson a Scottish born Curate and School Master who resided in Lancashire with his wife Eliza (nee Holland) my ancestor. They had a son Sutherland who married a a Margaret Fanny Holmes in 1910. Eliza was a school mistress and Sutherland was a Photographer and teacher of Music. Does anyone know of these folk? Regards Debby (in Melbourne)

Hi Debby, I think I may have Alexander on Scottish census---- Edinburgh 1841 with brothers Sutherland 9y, Robert 7y living with possible grandfather--Sutherland Munro and, 1851 Edinburgh attending college,the IGI has baptisms for the 3 boys at Edinburgh Parish Church, Sutherland 17 Feb 1832, Alex. 30 April 1834,Robert 22 June 1836 with parents names, also parents marriage,mothers baptism and grandparents marriage. HTH,Anne On 27 May 2011 11:36, Debby <[email protected]> wrote: > I am looking for any information or a contact for Alexander Richardson a > Scottish born Curate and School Master who resided in Lancashire with > his wife Eliza (nee Holland) my ancestor. They had a son Sutherland who > married a a Margaret Fanny Holmes in 1910. Eliza was a school mistress > and Sutherland was a Photographer and teacher of Music. > Does anyone know of these folk? > > Regards > Debby (in Melbourne) > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jane Milne wrote: > Hi Listers > > Just to let you know that our next meeting is Wednesday June 1st > 7.30pm when Glen Atkinson will be giving a talk called " No > Compensation". This is about "disasters in the Worsley and Salford > coal fields, when accidents were a fact of life and before any legal > compensation alleviated the hardship of injury or death" . > All welcome. > > Venue as usual at Bolton Cricket Club, junction of Green Lane and > Bishops Road. > > Any queries contact Mrs Barbara Owen secretary 01204 309515.

I have sent you 2 emails, did you receive them ? Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Dumbrell" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 11:50 AM > Thank you to all those who replied to my query. I am now emailing a few > people who have links to this name. > > regards > Judy >

Thank you to all those who replied to my query. I am now emailing a few people who have links to this name. regards Judy

Hi All, Doing some research on a family called MILLS or MILNE. Though known in the the late 19th and early 20th century as Arthur Owen VAUGHAN (Owen Rhoscomyl) and claimed he was Welsh, Arthur's real name was Robert Scourfield (Schofield) MILLS or MILNE. He is found in military records but quite late in life. He was born in the Southport area in 1863 and was the son of Robert MILLS or MILNE (killed in an accident in 1863) and Jane Ann SCOURFIELD or SCHOFIELD. Jane's mother was Ann GILL, and had been SCHOFIELD or SCOURFIELD but maiden name would seem to be JONES. Ann would seem to have been from Tremeirchion in Flintshire, North Wales. I am trying to find her on census reports before 1861 - by then she is Ann GILL, widow and 66 years old. She appears in 1871 living with the ETCHELLS. Jane MILLS (MILNE) remarried to a Luke ETCHELL and died in 1869 leaving Luke to take care of three children, Robert and Ada from her first marriage and son Philip. With the family was Ann GILL. Seemingly Ann JONES married Joseph SCHOFIELD (SCOURFIELD) in 1833 and an "Ann SCHOFIELD or JONES" married a John GILL in April 1841, both in Manchester. If anyone has any knowledge of any of the families above I would be happy to hear from them. Best wishes, Charles

Dear Listers, Many thanks to Gilly and Antony who have helped me on this. I have now seen the 1911 censuses via genesunited and find that Roy's father was nor Harry but Charles Edward Clarke and mother Emily. Gilly helped with a probable siting of Ada in 1901and I think the Manchester one is the most likely, not the Barrow one, and Antony suggested a birth also in Manchester in 1882. However, my attempts to find Ada on the 1891 census have come up with no matches under any spellings on genesunited. I would stll welcome any suggestions re Ada's said links with the Co-op Society, suffragette membership and JP or Magistrate at Salford. Best wishes, Mary

The 1911 census suggests she was born in Salford but I couldn't spot a birth there. But if I have the right person 1901 suggests Manchester. An that might be this one Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1882 Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name Reference MCCORMICK Ada Ancoats Manchester ANC/188/32 Good Luck Antony Lambert -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mary Sent: 23 May 2011 14:21 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-MAN] Ada Winterbottom nee MacCormac and Henry(Harry) Clarke Dear Listers, I am new to this list and I'm trying to help a son-in-law research his paternal background. His great grandmother was Ada Winterbottom, nee MacCormac, born c.1884. Birthplace uncertain but believed to be Scotland. She was married to William Edward Winterbottom in 1907 in Salford and had 3 daughters Ada 1909, Lilian 1910 and Doris 1911. She is said to have been the first secretary of the Cooperative Society, a suffragette and the first female magistrate of JP in Salford. His great grandfather was a Henry Clarke a painter and sign writer on the Railway.(officially not doing a Banksie).Harry's wife's name seems to have been forgotten. His son Roy 1908 was a Freemason in the Duke of Lancaster Lodge.He married Doris, the daughter of Ada and William Edward Winterbottom. Can anyone tell me how I may verify any or all of this information? Best wishes, Mary ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message