Hello Diane:   The address you mention appears to be in Collyhurst and though there's a Dickens family there, it doesn't seem to be yours.   I'd venture that this family below is the one you've given details for. Best wishes, Irene   DICKENS, Mary Wife Widow F 47 1864  Salford    DICKENS, Catherine Daughter Single M 25 1886 Tailor's Machinist Manchester   DICKENS, William Son Single M 15 1896 Iron Turner Iron Works Manchester    WHELAN, John Boarder Married M 50 1861 Cooper Woodwork Manchester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------   RG number: RG14 Piece: 23641  Reference: RG14PN23641 RG78PN1376 RD463 SD3 ED19 SN8    Registration District: Barton upon Irwell Sub District: Stretford Enumeration District:19 Parish: Stretford    Address: 915 Chester Road Stretford County: Lancashire From: Diane Ball <[email protected]> >To: Manchester List <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, July 6, 2011 1:37 AM >Subject: [ENG-MAN] 1911 Census & Dickens-glass blower > >My Edward Dickens/Dickons/Dickins family of the 1881, 1891 Census and >1901 Census don't compare very well.  There is an address at 21 Burton >St, Manchester, St George, Dist 10 listed in the 1911 Census Index that >I would appreciate someone checking. >1881 Census Manchester St George:  Dickons, Edward, 28, glass blower, >born-Manchester; Mary Dickons, 20,born-Salford >1891 Census Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 27 92 Poll St >Dickens, Ed, 38, glass maker, born-Manchester; Dickens, Mary RIDING, 28, >born-Salford; Fewley, James, border, 3, born-Manchester >1901 Census Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 23, 92 St Vincent St >Dickins, Edward, 48, glass maker, born-Manchester; Dickins, Mary 38, >Salford; Dickins, Edith, 17, tayloress, born-Manchester; >Dickins, Catherine, 15, glass blower, born-Manchester; Dickins, William, >5, born-Manchester > >Couldn't find the children Edith, Catherine or William with an Edward in >previous Census. > > >  >  > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > >PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > >~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

My Edward Dickens/Dickons/Dickins family of the 1881, 1891 Census and 1901 Census don't compare very well. There is an address at 21 Burton St, Manchester, St George, Dist 10 listed in the 1911 Census Index that I would appreciate someone checking. 1881 Census Manchester St George: Dickons, Edward, 28, glass blower, born-Manchester; Mary Dickons, 20,born-Salford 1891 Census Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 27 92 Poll St Dickens, Ed, 38, glass maker, born-Manchester; Dickens, Mary RIDING, 28, born-Salford; Fewley, James, border, 3, born-Manchester 1901 Census Manchester, Ancoats, Dist 23, 92 St Vincent St Dickins, Edward, 48, glass maker, born-Manchester; Dickins, Mary 38, Salford; Dickins, Edith, 17, tayloress, born-Manchester; Dickins, Catherine, 15, glass blower, born-Manchester; Dickins, William, 5, born-Manchester Couldn't find the children Edith, Catherine or William with an Edward in previous Census.

Hello Listers, I should like to thank everyone who responded to my email about Thomas Slater, both on- and off-line. Some of you said to send for a copy of his Marriage certificate. Another relative had already done this, and it arrived today. Thomas's father's occupation is given as : Gentleman. In most records Thomas's birthplace is given as Manchester, but in the 1851 census it is given as: Lisbon, Portugal. Can anyone suggest why his parents might have been in Lisbon in 1826, please? The father's occupation in 1851 was, again, Gentleman. Thank you, Margaret Buchanan

Margaret - On Google Books there is a group letter from some British merchants in Lisbon dated 1831 and one of the signees is Thomas Slater. There is also a Joseph Slater Platt. It is in 'British and foreign state papers.' A previous note says they were cotton and woollen merchants. Liane

Thanks for this site Joe. My grandmother lived at the corner of Beech and Neale Roads, so I was very interested in this area. I don't really remember it well as I was only about 7 when I was there so it has refreshed my memories. Kind regards Pauline K in Oz > Hi folks > In case anyone is interested in viewing these old photos: > just use this url, apparently they a posted by the library. > > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/manchesterarchiveplus/5894615354/ > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi folks In case anyone is interested in viewing these old photos: just use this url, apparently they a posted by the library. http://www.flickr.com/photos/manchesterarchiveplus/5894615354/ Hope this is a good thing for someone, Joe Hurst

Hi Margaret His marriage certificate should have his father's name and occupation on it. Also there may be information from the Alumni databases for Cambridge. Regards Lyn In Oz. > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > MARGARET BUCHANAN > Sent: Saturday, 2 July 2011 10:08 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [ENG-MAN] Thomas SLATER > > Hello Listers, > > This is my first posting to this list, and I hope that > someone can help. > > I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Slater who was born > on 10 November 1826.

Hello Margaret I have found A Thomas Slater on the 1841 census living in Hulme Manchester. His father is not at home, his mother Mary age 40 is, Jane 15,Thomas 15, Samuel 14, Elizabeth 10 all living in Myrtle Street, Hulme, Manchester. So it looks like this Thomas is a twin. Best wishes Eric -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of MARGARET BUCHANAN Sent: 02 July 2011 01:08 To: [email protected] Subject: [ENG-MAN] Thomas SLATER Hello Listers, This is my first posting to this list, and I hope that someone can help. I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Slater who was born on 10 November 1826. On various records that have been found, his place of birth is always given as Manchester, Lancashire. I know nothing of his parents, but Thomas attended Emmanuel College, Cambridge,during which time he married Adelaide Tomblin of Rutland (1852). He was ordained as a Priest in Manchester in 1858, and became Curate of Ramsbottom. He later served as Curate in various churches in Staffordshire, and became Vicar of Coseley in 1863.He died at Coseley in 1883. I should be pleased to hear from anyone who has any knowledge of this family. Kind regards, Margaret Buchanan Aberdeen. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello all, Today's visit to the OPC website found the following records have been added to the website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 1 July 2011 Marriages 1872 to 1874 from the Church of St Michael-in-the-Hamlet, in the district of Aigburth, Liverpool Marriages 1866 to 1873 from the Church of St Paul, Blackburn Baptisms 1851 to 1870 from the Church of St Peter, in the District of Blackley, Manchester Baptisms 1887 to 1900 from Christ Church in the Parish of Blackpool Burials 1786 to 1790 from the Parish Church of St Peter, Bolton Baptisms 1778 to 1798 from the Church of St Peter in the Parish of Burnley Banns 1835 to 1842 from the church of St George in the Parish of Chorley Banns 1847 to 1900 from the Church of St Mary Magdalene in the Parish of Clitheroe Baptisms 1895 to 1925 from St Helens Rd Methodist, in the District of Daubhill, Bolton Baptisms 1887 to 1892 from Deane Methodist, in the District of Deane, Bolton Baptisms 1603 to 1694 and 1847 to 1900 and Marriages 1603 to 1694 from the Parish of Eccleston Baptism, Marriage and Burial Registers 1826 to 1909 for St John the Evangelist, Farnworth with Kearsley, have been revised and updated. Marriages 1909 to 1915 from All Saints, in the Parish of Farnworth with Kearsley Baptisms 1890 to 1898 from the Parish of Fleetwood Baptisms 1730 to 1738 and Burials 1730 to 1737 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Goosnargh Marriages 1854 to 1949 from the Church of St James, Whitechapel, in the Parish of Goosnargh Baptisms 1929 to 1941 from St Thomas the Apostle, Halliwell, Bolton Baptisms 1912 to 1931 from the Church of St Matthew, Little Lever Burials 1843 to 1849 from the Church of St John Haymarket, Liverpool Marriages 1793 from the Collegiate Church, in the City of Manchester Banns 1894 to 1900 from the Parish of Marton Marriages 1858 to 1860 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich Marriages 1883 to 1888 from Christ Church, Salford Baptisms 1923 to 1929 from the Church of St Thomas, Seaforth, Liverpool Banns 1854 to 1900 from the Parish of Singleton Marriages 1858 to 1865 from St Thomas, Eccleston, in the Parish of St Helens Banns 1774 to 1785 from the Church of St Michael, St Michael-on-Wyre Marriages 1861 to 1875 from St David, Haigh Happy hunting! Regards, Sally

Hello Listers, This is my first posting to this list, and I hope that someone can help. I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Slater who was born on 10 November 1826. On various records that have been found, his place of birth is always given as Manchester, Lancashire. I know nothing of his parents, but Thomas attended Emmanuel College, Cambridge,during which time he married Adelaide Tomblin of Rutland (1852). He was ordained as a Priest in Manchester in 1858, and became Curate of Ramsbottom. He later served as Curate in various churches in Staffordshire, and became Vicar of Coseley in 1863.He died at Coseley in 1883. I should be pleased to hear from anyone who has any knowledge of this family. Kind regards, Margaret Buchanan Aberdeen.

Hi Margaret, On the site www.freebmd.org.uk the marriage of Thomas and Adelaide was registered in St George's Southwark,Surrey in the June quarter of 1854. Purchasing this cert will provide you with the names of their respective fathers. In case you have net seen the church at Coseley here is a link with photographs http://www.sedgleylocalhistory.org.uk/cos/chch.asp Have you "found" Thomas on any census returns? Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "MARGARET BUCHANAN" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 01, 2011 5:07 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] Thomas SLATER > Hello Listers, > > This is my first posting to this list, and I hope that someone can help. > > I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Slater who was born on 10 > November > 1826. On various records that have been found, his place of birth is > always > given as Manchester, Lancashire. I know nothing of his parents, but Thomas > attended Emmanuel College, Cambridge,during which time he married Adelaide > Tomblin of Rutland (1852). He was ordained as a Priest in Manchester in > 1858, and became Curate of Ramsbottom. He later served as Curate in > various > churches in Staffordshire, and became Vicar of Coseley in 1863.He died at > Coseley in 1883. > > I should be pleased to hear from anyone who has any knowledge of this > family. > > Kind regards, > Margaret Buchanan > Aberdeen. > > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Gilly, yes I have the birth certificate for Francisco, it shows the occupation of John James as a carter, the address at that time was 15 Bakewall St Ardwick. I have the census for 1901 living at 110, Thomas Street, South Manchester as a lodger, but no census for 1891. Barry -----Original Message----- From: gillykh [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, 1 July 2011 5:00 PM To: [email protected] Cc: Barry & Dianne Subject: Re: [ENG-MAN] JOHN JAMES WALTON Hi Barry Have you "found" Francisco on the 1891 or 1901 census? What was the occupation of John James on his sons marriage cert? Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry & Dianne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] JOHN JAMES WALTON > > Hi list members, I have just rejoined after changing my email address. > > My main interest at the moment is for a John James Walton, who is the > father > of Francisco Walton born 1882 Chorlton, Manachester. I have the birth > certificate for Francisco that also shows his mother as Mary Yeomans > (Yeoman). > > On the marriage certificate in 1902 it shows his father as deceased. > > I purchased a death certificate for a JOHN JAMES WALTON died 1889 at > Ardwick > Chorlton, just on the chance that he may be the one, but gives no > information on any other family members, the certificate tells me he died > near the Gorton Brook Hotel Clower St Gorton, and the certificate was > received from the coroner for a inquest held at Lancashire Oct 7th 1889. > > Regards > > Barry Wilson > > Aust > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

From our hard working friends at Lancashire BMD - 25 June 2011 - Amended 13,451 Births for Blackburn RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Blackburn Northern (1911-1915); Blackburn Southern (1907-1909); Blackburn Western (1905-1909); Darwen (1910-1916) - Added 13,834 Deaths for Burnley RD comprising: Padiham (1901-1957) - Added 4,996 Deaths for Hyndburn RD comprising: Haslingden (1861-1879) 29 June 2011 -Added 23,452 Deaths for blackpool RD comprising: Blackpool North (1936-1955) ~ ~ ~ ~ Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

Hi list members, I have just rejoined after changing my email address. My main interest at the moment is for a John James Walton, who is the father of Francisco Walton born 1882 Chorlton, Manachester. I have the birth certificate for Francisco that also shows his mother as Mary Yeomans (Yeoman). On the marriage certificate in 1902 it shows his father as deceased. I purchased a death certificate for a JOHN JAMES WALTON died 1889 at Ardwick Chorlton, just on the chance that he may be the one, but gives no information on any other family members, the certificate tells me he died near the Gorton Brook Hotel Clower St Gorton, and the certificate was received from the coroner for a inquest held at Lancashire Oct 7th 1889. Regards Barry Wilson Aust

Hi Barry Have you "found" Francisco on the 1891 or 1901 census? What was the occupation of John James on his sons marriage cert? Gilly ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry & Dianne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2011 3:08 PM Subject: [ENG-MAN] JOHN JAMES WALTON > > Hi list members, I have just rejoined after changing my email address. > > My main interest at the moment is for a John James Walton, who is the > father > of Francisco Walton born 1882 Chorlton, Manachester. I have the birth > certificate for Francisco that also shows his mother as Mary Yeomans > (Yeoman). > > On the marriage certificate in 1902 it shows his father as deceased. > > I purchased a death certificate for a JOHN JAMES WALTON died 1889 at > Ardwick > Chorlton, just on the chance that he may be the one, but gives no > information on any other family members, the certificate tells me he died > near the Gorton Brook Hotel Clower St Gorton, and the certificate was > received from the coroner for a inquest held at Lancashire Oct 7th 1889. > > Regards > > Barry Wilson > > Aust > > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jo-Ann, 1871 census the family were in St Georges,Manchester (sorry,I can't make out the street name) as well as Mary J 7yrs, George A 5yrs, Elizabeth 2yrs, there was John R age 1 month. 1861 Sarah Ann was at 17 Howard Street,Ardwick,Manchester age 17yrs,occupation maker up of smallwares,her parents John Ivison 44yrs occ. saddler b. Birmingham, Warwickshire,Jane age 60yrs no oc. b London and sister Elizabeth 23yrs occ. milliner b Salford,Lancs. 1851 census James was at 9 Victoria Street,Hulme,a scholar,parents Richard age 26y occ. pattern designer,b Wheelton,Lancs. Mary 27yrs no occ. b Spotland (Rochdale) brothers William 5yrs b Castleton, Thomas 1yr b. Hulme. James and Sarah Ann married Sept.Q 1863, Manchester (freebmd), www.lancashirebmd.org.uk has the marriage taking place at the Church of St.John,Manchester. HTH a little, Anne On 29 June 2011 19:35, Jo-Ann Bradley <[email protected]> wrote: > Greeings, I live in California, U.S. Much of my family (including me) was > born > in or very near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, going back generations. > However, my > great grandmother on my mother's side, Charlotte Ivison Mitton, came to > Philadelphia on 6 Dec 1887 on the SS Lord Gough at age 14 yrs. Her mother, > Sarah > Ann, was with her. I'm not sure whether her father, James Mitton, > accompanied > them. If so, his surname was spelled incorrectly. ( On 19 July 1887, there > was a > passenger on a ship arriving in Philadelphia named James Milton or Mitton.) > Tragically, James died 16 Dec 1887. > -James Mitton was born 1842/43 in Casleton, Lancashire according to the > 1881 > census & was a mechanic or fitter. > -Sarah Ann (nee Ivison) was born about a year later in Manchester. I > believe her > father's name is John Ivison. > Their children in the 1881 census: > -Mary Jane b, ca. 1864 > -George Alfred b. 20 Sept 1865 Baptism 23 Sep 1866 St Thomas Church, > Ardwick > -Elizabeth C. b. ca. 18669 > -Charlotte Ivison b. 29 May 1873 Baptism 7 Aug 1873 St James Church, > Collyhurst > > I believe they had other children who died very young. Does anyone know > this > family? Jo-Ann > > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > PLEASE and THANK YOU -- Don't cost a thing and mean so much. > > > ~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~:~ > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

The next monthly meeting is on July 6th at 7.30pm Bolton Cricket Club, Green Lane /Bishops Road junction, Farnworth. BL3 2JB. This months speaker is the local historian Graham Stirrup and his talk is entitled Victorian Times. He will look at Britain's role and influence in the world in the Victorian era and explore events both at home and abroad, and their affect on the everyday lives of ordinary folk. This will give some insight into what it was like living in the reign of Queen Victoria. Everybody welcome and, as always, there will also be a Help Desk for private researchers. Any enquiries to Mrs Barbara Owen, Secretary on 01204309515

Greeings, I live in California, U.S. Much of my family (including me) was born in or very near Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, going back generations. However, my great grandmother on my mother's side, Charlotte Ivison Mitton, came to Philadelphia on 6 Dec 1887 on the SS Lord Gough at age 14 yrs. Her mother, Sarah Ann, was with her. I'm not sure whether her father, James Mitton, accompanied them. If so, his surname was spelled incorrectly. ( On 19 July 1887, there was a passenger on a ship arriving in Philadelphia named James Milton or Mitton.) Tragically, James died 16 Dec 1887. -James Mitton was born 1842/43 in Casleton, Lancashire according to the 1881 census & was a mechanic or fitter. -Sarah Ann (nee Ivison) was born about a year later in Manchester. I believe her father's name is John Ivison. Their children in the 1881 census: -Mary Jane b, ca. 1864 -George Alfred b. 20 Sept 1865 Baptism 23 Sep 1866 St Thomas Church, Ardwick -Elizabeth C. b. ca. 18669 -Charlotte Ivison b. 29 May 1873 Baptism 7 Aug 1873 St James Church, Collyhurst I believe they had other children who died very young. Does anyone know this family? Jo-Ann

Since posting on the list a little while ago I've received much support and information from Anne about the Clarkes and Liane about the MacCormacs. Now another bit of advice is needed and hopefully someone will tell me how best to proceed. To verify some of the information it would be useful to have Ada's birth certificate. Census records suggest a birth in 1884 in either Manchester or Salford but the Freeb/m/d show a birth in Dec Qt 1882 in Manchester and another in 1886 in Salford.I think the earlier one is most likely. Obviously to cut down on expense it would be helpful to know if one was ordering the right one. What is best? To apply to Manchester specifying the father must be Joseph or can this be done through the GRO ? Once the mother can be established it should confirm that the info. so far is correct or otherwise. Thank you all for your help and patience. Best wishes, Mary

Cyndi's List brings a reminder of an oldie but goodie: >URL : http://www.mancuniensis.info/index.htm >TITLE : Introduction to Historical and Genealogical Information for the Manchester Region >DESCRIPTION : Historical and Genealogical Information for the Region Anciently Known as the Salford Hundred now known as Greater Manchester. > Elaine and Roger Hart's site includes a Barton Wesleyan Chapel burial register for the period 1804 - 1902 which "will be gradually accessible and fully searchable using the site search engine." Know of any other free sites useful in Manchester, Salford, or Lancashire research? Post them, please! Kind regards, Lynne