Hello Listers, My grandad THOMAS BLACKLER born in Liverpool was a 1st Class Stoker aboard HMS Queen Mary when she was blown up by the Germans. I can only imagine the horror of all those down below when she was hit. My Grandad THOMAS ARMSTRONG born in Liverpool, was in the 1st & 2nd WW's. Today I got all his medals together and took a printout of what ever medal was about. He was in the Merchant Navy so was all over the atlantic with their cargos. I am trying to make a folder for him and what he did. I do not have much information on him, but he was on the BENIN PALM in the 1950's. Gr.Uncle JOHN WILLIAM ARMSTRONG jointed the Australian Imperial Force and enlisted December 11th, 1915 in Newcastle. I have just printed 34pages of his war movements, unfortunately there does not seem to be a photo of him, bt his complexion was fair with blue eyes and fair complexion (now I know where I get my colouring from), he was also 5ft 9" tall not a tall man, all exciting information. Another relative JOSEPH WILLIAM ARMSTRONG was in the 1st WW and died in 1917 from a back wound in France. He is buried over there. My dad THOMAS ARMSTRONG was in the HOME GUARD, but I can't find much on him. It is amazing when you start researching how many relatives were in the military. TODAY I REMEMBERED Rosemary (Canada) > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:34:57 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget > > George Henry Pavey, my uncle, was born in 1903 in Liverpool. He was in the RN Reserve so was called back to service at the onset of WW2. > > He served on HMS Northern Rover, a Grimsby fshing trawler that had been requisitioned in August 1939. The ship was sunk with all hands in the Orkneys by German U-Boat U-59, 'Harald Jurst', on 30 October 1939 at 23.35 hrs > Northern Rover was the first former Grimsby based trawler in Admiralty > service to be sunk by U-Boat action and she was herself a German built vessel > under the Reparation Programme. > > George's uncle, Walter Seymour b 1874, died on 31 May 1941, a casualty of the May Blitz on Liverpool, having come through WW1 relatively unscathed. > > Lest we forget > Joan > > > ________________________________ > From: Lynne <[email protected]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2012, 14:37 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget > > Dear All, > > Today is Remembrance Sunday and tomorrow is Remembrance Day (Poppy Day or Armistice Day; Veterans' Day in the US). Please take a moment to remember your family members and others who have perished in the line of duty. > > Wouldn't it be lovely if those of you with ancestors who served in the wars would acknowledge their contributions on the list with some memories or stories about them, or just a mention of when and where they served? > > For this special occasion only, you may include ancestors from outside of the area covered by this list. So that others can find your posts, be sure to include your ancestor's surname in all caps in the subject line. > > I look forward to seeing your posts. > > Kind regards, > Lynne > list admin. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I remember the PALM LINE ships. They traded to West Africa out of Liverpool. I think PALM LINE was part of a big trading company but I'm not sure but there's probably something on it if you GOOGLE. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: rosemary folco Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2012 4:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget Hello Listers, My grandad THOMAS BLACKLER born in Liverpool was a 1st Class Stoker aboard HMS Queen Mary when she was blown up by the Germans. I can only imagine the horror of all those down below when she was hit. My Grandad THOMAS ARMSTRONG born in Liverpool, was in the 1st & 2nd WW's. Today I got all his medals together and took a printout of what ever medal was about. He was in the Merchant Navy so was all over the atlantic with their cargos. I am trying to make a folder for him and what he did. I do not have much information on him, but he was on the BENIN PALM in the 1950's. Gr.Uncle JOHN WILLIAM ARMSTRONG jointed the Australian Imperial Force and enlisted December 11th, 1915 in Newcastle. I have just printed 34pages of his war movements, unfortunately there does not seem to be a photo of him, bt his complexion was fair with blue eyes and fair complexion (now I know where I get my colouring from), he was also 5ft 9" tall not a tall man, all exciting information. Another relative JOSEPH WILLIAM ARMSTRONG was in the 1st WW and died in 1917 from a back wound in France. He is buried over there. My dad THOMAS ARMSTRONG was in the HOME GUARD, but I can't find much on him. It is amazing when you start researching how many relatives were in the military. TODAY I REMEMBERED Rosemary (Canada) > Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 22:34:57 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget > > George Henry Pavey, my uncle, was born in 1903 in Liverpool. He was in > the RN Reserve so was called back to service at the onset of WW2. > > He served on HMS Northern Rover, a Grimsby fshing trawler that had been > requisitioned in August 1939. The ship was sunk with all hands in the > Orkneys by German U-Boat U-59, 'Harald Jurst', on 30 October 1939 at > 23.35 hrs > Northern Rover was the first former Grimsby based trawler in Admiralty > service to be sunk by U-Boat action and she was herself a German built > vessel > under the Reparation Programme. > > George's uncle, Walter Seymour b 1874, died on 31 May 1941, a casualty of > the May Blitz on Liverpool, having come through WW1 relatively unscathed. > > Lest we forget > Joan > > > ________________________________ > From: Lynne <[email protected]> > To: > Sent: Sunday, 11 November 2012, 14:37 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget > > Dear All, > > Today is Remembrance Sunday and tomorrow is Remembrance Day (Poppy Day or > Armistice Day; Veterans' Day in the US). Please take a moment to remember > your family members and others who have perished in the line of duty. > > Wouldn't it be lovely if those of you with ancestors who served in the > wars would acknowledge their contributions on the list with some memories > or stories about them, or just a mention of when and where they served? > > For this special occasion only, you may include ancestors from outside of > the area covered by this list. So that others can find your posts, be > sure to include your ancestor's surname in all caps in the subject line. > > I look forward to seeing your posts. > > Kind regards, > Lynne > list admin. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Rosemary I can't remember the title of the book as it's now decades ago that I read it, however, in January 1945, the British Armed Forces estimated that they'd need 225,000 recruits for the coming year but the Ministry of Labour could only guarantee 145,000. The book also stated the 55%, repeat 55%, of the working age population, male and female, of the United Kingdom was in Army (ie Military*), Navy or Air Force in 1945. *My father, step-father, paternal grandfather were all Officers in the Royal Navy, they were definitely NOT in the "Military". In British usage, the English word Military has always meant only the Army, and does not include the Navy or Air Force, although under the general dumbing down of the language that is so prevalent today, the American usage has become more common. Also, in British usage, "Active Service" means service in an active Theatre of Operations such as today's Afghanistan and not a member of the Regular Army on peacetime garrison duty elsewhere (eg Gibraltar), whereas the American "Active Duty" means being in the regular Armed Forces and not a part-time reservist. Regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: rosemary folco To: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Lest We Forget It is amazing when you start researching how many relatives were in the military. Rosemary (Canada)