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    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census
    2. sally roberts
    3. Hi Meg, I have also tried tracking my husband's family (from Portland, Dorset so many, many, many mariners involved there!) through the census, and found some information on this website which was helpful to me in knowing what's out there for doing this very thing.... http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKCensuses.html (Covers the 1841-1891 census schedules) 1841 Seamen on shore on census night were enumerated in the same way as the general public, in the place where they spent that night. There was no provision made for recording seamen at sea on census night. 1851 Seamen on board ships in port or docked on rivers were recorded for the first time. They were enumerated by the Master and collected by the local Officer of Customs whose duty it was to submit the records. The RGSS had similar responsibility for the enumeration of ships at sea within territorial waters. Survival rate for these records is poor. The records may be located following the normal census records for the port at which the ship was docked or the port to which it returned at the end of its voyage. 1861 Seamen on board all ships in port or docked in rivers were recorded and returns submitted to the Officer of Customs. The RGSS assumed responsibility for those at sea in territorial waters and for the first time, those 'on the high seas.' These records are filed in a separate schedule and found at the end of the regular census. The records have been indexed and alphabetical indexes are available on microfilm to both ships and seamen. These are available in many archives world wide and also through LDS libraries. 1871 - 1891 Returns filed as above, following the ordinary census records for the port at which the ship was docked on census night, or to which it returned following its voyage. Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:31:43 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on > findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship > including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry > dock. > > My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake > will now help others.

    10/18/2012 04:11:20
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census
    2. hobby.horse
    3. Many thanks Sally. My man was actually a rigger which was why I thought it unlikely he'd be at sea. I now see the ship was in dry dock. Thanks again Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "sally roberts" <[email protected]> To: "englanliverpool" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > Hi Meg, > > I have also tried tracking my husband's family (from Portland, Dorset so > many, many, many mariners involved there!) through the census, and found > some information on this website which was helpful to me in knowing what's > out there for doing this very thing.... > > http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKCensuses.html > > (Covers the 1841-1891 census schedules) > > 1841 Seamen on shore on census night were enumerated in the same way as > the general public, in the place where they spent that night. There was no > provision made for recording seamen at sea on census night. > > 1851 Seamen on board ships in port or docked on rivers were recorded for > the first time. They were enumerated by the Master and collected by the > local Officer of Customs whose duty it was to submit the records. The RGSS > had similar responsibility for the enumeration of ships at sea within > territorial waters. Survival rate for these records is poor. The records > may be located following the normal census records for the port at which > the ship was docked or the port to which it returned at the end of its > voyage. > > 1861 Seamen on board all ships in port or docked in rivers were recorded > and returns submitted to the Officer of Customs. The RGSS assumed > responsibility for those at sea in territorial waters and for the first > time, those 'on the high seas.' These records are filed in a separate > schedule and found at the end of the regular census. The records have been > indexed and alphabetical indexes are available on microfilm to both ships > and seamen. These are available in many archives world wide and also > through LDS libraries. > > 1871 - 1891 Returns filed as above, following the ordinary census records > for the port at which the ship was docked on census night, or to which it > returned following its voyage. > > Regards, > Sally > > ---------------------------------------- >> From: [email protected] >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 06:31:43 +0100 >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census >> >> Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on >> findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship >> including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry >> dock. >> >> My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake >> will now help others. > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    10/18/2012 10:28:01