One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg

The Find my past census notes for 1891 says it includes seamen on docked vessels, so implication was it was in port. HTH Anne On 17 Oct 2012, at 15:15, hobby.horse wrote: > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? > > Thanks, Meg

Hi Meg, Occasionally, I have found information on the vessel on the census enumerator's sheet. Maybe it would be the same in this case? It would also depend on what sort of ship it was, but sometimes googling the ship's name may also bring up information on sailing schedules and suchlike. Fingers crossed :o) Regards, Sally ---------------------------------------- > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:15:42 +0100 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? > > Thanks, Meg

Hi, The vessel was in port on census night, otherwise it would not have appeared on the census. I expect that there is a slight chance that it had sailed and the census taker was not aware it had, but that would have been irregular Regards Dr [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: hobby.horse <[email protected]> To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, 17 Oct 2012 16:17 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I suspect that it will not help in this case as probably a small vessel but the newspapers list arrival and departure of large vessels. Martin Briscoe Fort William [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of hobby.horse Sent: 17 October 2012 15:16 To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please?

I found my great grandfather in the same census. He had been a seaman but at this time he was a watchman aboard a ship berthed in the Liverpool docks. I would somehow think the census would only be taken on ships in port at the time. It would be pretty hard to have the census forms out to the many ships of the British merchant marine back then, the ships that travelled all over the world on long, slow voyages. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: hobby.horse Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:15 AM To: LIVERPOOL Mailing List Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on census night please? Thanks, Meg ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks to all who replied to this. I went back to the census return on findmypast. Clicking on 'previous page' brought up details of the ship including its official number and tonnage. It also stated it was in dry dock. My own fault for not looking properly in the first place. Hope my mistake will now help others. Meg ----- Original Message ----- From: "hobby.horse" <[email protected]> To: "LIVERPOOL Mailing List" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:15 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Vessels in 1891census > One of my ancestors appears in 1891 on a vessel in Middlesborough. Is > there any way of knowing whether the vessel was in port or at sea on > census night please? > > Thanks, Meg > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >