Hello, I'd just like to offer an FYI that my ancestor was John LEWIS, b~1837 Liverpool. He had an older brother, William LEWIS, and 2 younger brothers, one was Henry LEWIS, b1843. Their parents were Richard LEWIS, b1803 Shropshire, and Elizabeth TROUGHTON, b1806 Cheshire, who married in Liverpool in 1825. I've been posting about this extended family for maybe 10 yrs. This is one of my old postings which mentions them in 1851: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-liverpool/2008-02/1201872159 What I found out later is that the couple had 2 daughters, first, and then, I think, 5 sons. (I think one son died young.) I'll try to find my other old postings which offered later census records for the married sons. This posting mentions the family of Henry LEWIS: http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/eng-liverpool/2008-06/1214829941 The brothers either were clerks in a Solicitor's office or in an office on the Docks. Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) * This spring I heard from a "distant cousin" I had forgotten about. He is in England and is descended from the above William LEWIS. When first married, John and William lived beside each other in Liverpool. (on Lists and Boards for 10 yrs.; now an Admin for 9 Lists and 4 Boards)