Your 20 and up you 25. May have mentioned on this group before about looking up a cousin's side of the tree, One Alice SMITH of Liverpool, England. Have a birth cert. 1856 and a death cert. 1939. Cousin worked backwards in the normal way, from the death cert. place of birth Liverpool, England, father John SMITH mother Elizabeth SMITH (no maiden name given). 44 years wasted in looking up SMITHs. Took out sub. with Ancestry.co.uk 18 months back. Doing Census details for my HIBBARD line from his arrival in New Zealand in 1874. 1871 Census my G-Grandfather was living in Westbury, Wiltshire. Household listing contained a Sarah Ann SMITH a servant, b 1857 Coomb Haye, Somerset. 1861 Census has Sarah Ann and her sister Alice living with their Grandparents in Bratton, Westbury, Wilts. Subsequent baptism film records for Bratton, Westbury, Wilts. have the two girls baptised on 28 Oct 1858, mother Elizabeth no father's name, although a father's first name John was crossed out. A small difference with the 2nd name of Sarah being Jane on the baptism record, so may have to purchase birth certificate just to make sure. Les. #17255