I found more bodies than grave markers also. Seemingly no relation. Later I found out they were. Seems they liked to pack them in back in the day. On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Martin Briscoe via < eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> wrote: > It can be interesting investigating extra burials in a grave, sometimes you > find a distant connection particularly with babies, infants or even young > people because the family probably had not yet got a grave to use so some > relative allowed them to use their one. > > Graves seem to be often leased for a fixed term, I came across one in my > family where the last burial was back in the 19th century then someone else > was buried there much later though I think they were still related so > perhaps the family still owned the grave. > > I found these conditions on one website though it seems to suggest in the > past graves were sold in perpetuity in some areas. > > > > When you buy a grave in the cemetery, you do not buy the land. The land > remains the property of South Tyneside Council. Instead, you buy the > exclusive right to bury in that piece of land, effectively making it a > private family grave. Up until the mid 1970s we sold these burial rights in > perpetuity. However, we now only sell them for a fixed 50 year term. At the > end of this term, it is the family's responsibility to renew their rights > if > they so wish. Should the rights not be renewed the cemetery staff can > lawfully remove any memorial after giving a set period of notice for you to > remove the memorial yourself. If there is sufficient depth left in the > grave, we also have the right to bury someone else there. > > > > I would think that they are similar elsewhere. > > Martin Briscoe > Fort William > martin@mbriscoe.me.uk > > > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth via > Sent: 14 September 2014 08:15 > To: Dianne Hughes; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Strangers in a grave? > > If the family had not purchased the grave it remained under the control of > the cemetery authority. So, they could fill up one grave before digging > another. In one of the cemetery records of my family it gives the depth at > which the coffin was buried - in one case 12 feet leaving plenty of room > for more ..... > > Ruth > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I found my gr. grandmother, my grandmother and a niece all different surnames all in one grave. Difficult finding connection to the niece. On 2014-09-14, at 2:26 PM, Helen Lutke via wrote: > I found more bodies than grave markers also. Seemingly no relation. Later I > found out they were. Seems they liked to pack them in back in the day. > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2014 at 5:33 AM, Martin Briscoe via < > eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> wrote: > >> It can be interesting investigating extra burials in a grave, sometimes you >> find a distant connection particularly with babies, infants or even young >> people because the family probably had not yet got a grave to use so some >> relative allowed them to use their one. >> >> Graves seem to be often leased for a fixed term, I came across one in my >> family where the last burial was back in the 19th century then someone else >> was buried there much later though I think they were still related so >> perhaps the family still owned the grave. >> >> I found these conditions on one website though it seems to suggest in the >> past graves were sold in perpetuity in some areas. >> >> >> >> When you buy a grave in the cemetery, you do not buy the land. The land >> remains the property of South Tyneside Council. Instead, you buy the >> exclusive right to bury in that piece of land, effectively making it a >> private family grave. Up until the mid 1970s we sold these burial rights in >> perpetuity. However, we now only sell them for a fixed 50 year term. At the >> end of this term, it is the family's responsibility to renew their rights >> if >> they so wish. Should the rights not be renewed the cemetery staff can >> lawfully remove any memorial after giving a set period of notice for you to >> remove the memorial yourself. If there is sufficient depth left in the >> grave, we also have the right to bury someone else there. >> >> >> >> I would think that they are similar elsewhere. >> >> Martin Briscoe >> Fort William >> martin@mbriscoe.me.uk >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com >> [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ruth via >> Sent: 14 September 2014 08:15 >> To: Dianne Hughes; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Strangers in a grave? >> >> If the family had not purchased the grave it remained under the control of >> the cemetery authority. So, they could fill up one grave before digging >> another. In one of the cemetery records of my family it gives the depth at >> which the coffin was buried - in one case 12 feet leaving plenty of room >> for more ..... >> >> Ruth >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >