Hello all, I am new to posting on this list.  I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881.  Does this church still exist?  Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church.  I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate.  Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay

Kay, Also online is Marriages at Holy Cross, 1855 - 1897Joan----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Allen" <kfa818@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:04 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Holy Cross Church, Great Crosshall Street, closed in 2001 The registers are at Our Lady's, Eldon Street Address for writing: Our Lady of Reconciliation Presbytery 39 Eldon Place Liverpool L3 6HE Telephone 0151-207-0177 Fax:0151-298-2112 e-mail: stanthony282@btinternet.com or graemedunne@hotmail.com The Parish Priest ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Allen To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:04 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Kay In 1881 the GRO record should be an exact copy of the entry in the marriage register. That said, the GRO certificate is the result of several people copying the original register - when quarterly returns were sent in to the local registrar and when their details were sent to the GRO - so errors could have crept in. Their early registers covering the period you are interested in have been deposited at the Liverpool Record Office See http://tinyurl.com/cbxnua They don't yet appear to have reached Lancashire BMD records. See http://tinyurl.com/nz293z Happy hunting Anne On 14 Jul 2009, at 16:04, Kay Allen wrote: > Hello all, > > I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO > certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother > which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July > 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the > marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church > record listed more info than the GRO certificate. > > Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they > originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 > before coming to USA. > Thank you. > Kay >

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/holy/hol y01.htm one of quite a few from google ....hope it helps. If you need a hand just email off list. Ttfn Lesley Ü Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Hello all, I am new to posting on this list.  I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881.  Does this church still exist?  Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church.  I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate.  Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I'm not sure what information would be held by the church as according to LancashireBMD the marriage between Bridget M MANLEY and John J CREEGAN (sic) was a Register Office or Registrar Attended marriage. The reasom for this is as follows. Until 1898 only Church of England, Jewish and Quaker places of worship were entitled to maintain their own marriage registers. All other non-conformist and Roman Catholic marriages had to be conducted in the presence of a registrar, and are therefore listed as 'Civil Marriages', together with all those conducted at the local register office. After 1898 non-conformist and Roman Catholic churches were allowed to keep their own registers and celebrate their own marriages, Andy Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay

Kay The Liverpool records Office have the Holy Cross records - I recently contacted them by email for details of my GG Grandfather's wedding there in 1858 - they sent me back a transcript of the entry (in Latin, I'm afraid) which gave me a couple of new leads in my research - it included the full names of the bride and groom's parents and where they were from (in my case Cork and Dublin) which isn't included on the marriage certificate, even the name of the priest. They replied within a few days, and it was free - although they do offer a paid for research service if you want more information. Tony Marr Bucks UK -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kay Allen Sent: 14 July 2009 16:05 To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record Hello all, I am new to posting on this list.  I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881.  Does this church still exist?  Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church.  I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate.  Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message