Hello from OZ. I am new to the List and would appreciate HELP if possible (please) Have interests in Liverpool of the following. RYALL JOHN (Joiner) father of Frederick RYALL NEWBIGGING THOMAS (Merchant)>> father of Ann NEWBIGGING>> who married Frederick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Frederick RYALL married Ann NEWBIGGING at St Silas C of E Liverpool on 15th Nov 1852 . address given.. Erskine St. . 2 chidren born to them . John Thomas 1853 & David 1856 The family left Liverpool for Australia Sept 1857>>> on the ship SARAH DIXON ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Having difficulty finding the Ancestors of Frederick RYALL . . altho' his father JOHN RYALL ( born 1811/16 >> Bath Somerset ??.<<unconfirmed>). was living in Liverpool and a witness to the marriage. Data has it that John married twice. I believe Frederick was his eldest child and in the 1841 census was in a workhouse at MERE Wilts? with 2 brothers Edward & Charles. John re-married >>> Margaret.???? - no record of the marriage ( assume the mother of the childen died > thus the workhouse /orphanage 1841) the family were in Liverpool 1851 census... Sorry for the Ramble.. . IF information on JOHN RYALL can be gleaned or a pointer to where i might find a clue.. Margaret & John could have died in Liverpool..??? Thank-you in anticipation Betty (OZ) -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 132 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message