As there may be new listers I am detailing my HELSBY/ARNOLD line again. My mother was Mary HELSBY, one of the children of George HELSBY and Ellen HARRISON. George and Ellen married on September 11th 1912. George was 24 and a Tram Conductor, living at 24 Sutton Street, father Thomas HELSBY, Labourer. Ellen was aged 21 also living at 24 Sutton Street, father John HARRISON deceased Farm Labourer. The marriage was witnessed by Ellen's mother, Elizabeth Ann HARRISON, her brother Thomas HARRISON and a cousin, Mary HAMPSON. George (born 27th Aug 1888 at Mill Yard, Knotty Ash, was the son of Thomas HELSBY and Elizabeth ARNOLD. Thomas was born at Prescot on the 1st March 1858 and he married Elizabeth on 5th July 1885 at Knotty Ash. His details were aged 27, Labourer of Pilch Lane, Roby, father Robert HELSBY, Gardener. Elizabeth was aged 26, a Laundress of the The Mill, Knotty Ash, father Richard ARNOLD, Farm Labourer. Witnesses were James FOSTER and Elizabeth HELSBY. Elizabeth was the daughter of Richard ARNOLD born 1814 who married Margaret COWLEY on the 6th October 1845 at Huyton by Roby. Margaret was born 1817 at Windle. Thomas was the son of Robert HELSBY who was born in 1830 at Prescot and who married Alice HUNTER b 1832 Prescot on the 23rd April 1854. Robert stated his father to be Isaac HELSBY and Alice stated her father to be Thomas HUNTER. In 1881 Elizabeth ARNOLD was living at home 26 Mill Yard, Prescot Road, West Derby Margaret ARNOLD widow aged 64 b Windle Laundress Richard son unmarried aged 26 b Knowsley Farm Labourer Elizabeth daughter unmarried aged 22 b Huyton Laundress Henry son unmarried aged 21 b Prescot no occupation Margaret granddaughter aged 9 b Broadgreen Scholar Thomas was also still living with his parents 1881 Pilch Lane, Huyton with Roby Robert HELSBY married aged 51 b Prescot Gardener Domestic Alice wife aged 48 b Prescot Laundress Thomas son unmarried aged 23 b Prescot Farm Labourer Elizabeth daughter unmarried aged 21 b Prescot Laundress George son unmarried aged 18 b Prescot Porter on Railway John son aged 16 b Prescot Gardener Domestic Margaret daughter aged 12 b Prescot Scholar James son aged 10 b Prescot Scholar Robert son aged 5 b Prescot Scholar Charles son aged 3 b Prescot In 1891 Thomas and Elizabeth are living at: 24 Mill Yard, Prescot Road Thomas HELSBY married aged 33 Labourer b Roby Elizabeth wife aged 30 b Roby Robert son aged 5 Scholar b West Derby Alice daughter aged 4 b West Derby George ( my grandfather) son aged 2 b West Derby There were also two of the ARNOLD brothers living at Mill Yard, at number 13 was Henry ARNOLD and his wife Julia, and at number 26 was Richard ARNOLD unmarried. Any connections? Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website www.raogk.org