Hi List This is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are getting "funny" about it. First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and not myself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you naughty peoples! Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or expression so someone can write something which, to one person will read how it was wriiten or be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on the article/topic. Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts not the contributors. Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced the same thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one may have been or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the photograph and what appered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, how do they know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that time fro an accurate description of what they looked like so my next door neighbour who has a beard could look like Jesus! At least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or what it may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and I will send you a copy and judge for yourselves. --- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way  some devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday  objects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name  of Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face  of Jesus in a slice of pizza. I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature,  but photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow  involved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he  posts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to  reply with scientific explanations.  Also as a psychologist he is  good at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there  (see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's  a former magician so its always fun. When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite  aware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an  explanation. Judy Olsen ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

After reading all the comments on this subject, I too, would like a copy of the photograph. Thanks. Bryan............... Colorado Springs, Colorado. US. Bryan Briscoe-Smith Email: citizenuk@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Mike Hayes <mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 9:01 am Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts Hi List his is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are getting funny" about it. First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and not yself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you naughty eoples! Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or expression o someone can write something which, to one person will read how it was wriiten r be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on the article/topic. Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts not the ontributors. Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced the ame thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one may have een or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the photograph and what ppered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, how do hey know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that time fro n accurate description of what they looked like so my next door neighbour who as a beard could look like Jesus! t least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or what t may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and I will end you a copy and judge for yourselves. -- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> ubject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts o: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com ate: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way ome devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday bjects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name f Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face f Jesus in a slice of pizza. I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature, ut photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow nvolved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he osts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to eply with scientific explanations. Also as a psychologist he is ood at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's former magician so its always fun. When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite ware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an xplanation. udy Olsen ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: ttp://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at ng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: ttp://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at ng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I would like a copy of the photo too Please Maria from Colyton NSW -------------------------------------------------- From: <citizenuk@aol.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:44 AM To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > > After reading all the comments on this subject, I too, would like a copy > of the photograph. > > Thanks. > > Bryan............... Colorado Springs, Colorado. US. > > > Bryan Briscoe-Smith > Email: citizenuk@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Hayes <mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk> > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, Nov 15, 2009 9:01 am > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > > > > Hi List > his is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are > getting > funny" about it. > First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and > not > yself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you > naughty > eoples! > Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or > expression > o someone can write something which, to one person will read how it was > wriiten > r be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on the > article/topic. > Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts > not the > ontributors. > Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced > the > ame thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one may > have > een or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the photograph and > what > ppered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. > Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, > how do > hey know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that time > fro > n accurate description of what they looked like so my next door neighbour > who > as a beard could look like Jesus! > t least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or > what > t may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# > Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better > PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject > PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and > I will > end you a copy and judge for yourselves. > > > -- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> > ubject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > o: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > ate: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 > People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way > ome devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday > bjects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name > f Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face > f Jesus in a slice of pizza. > I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature, > ut photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow > nvolved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he > osts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to > eply with scientific explanations. Also as a psychologist he is > ood at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there > see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's > former magician so its always fun. > When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite > ware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an > xplanation. > > udy Olsen > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Admin Message - List guidelines: > ttp://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > The list admin can be contacted at > ng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Admin Message - List guidelines: > ttp://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > The list admin can be contacted at > ng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------ > o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > he message > > >

I have no feelings about the original subject either way, in fact I found it rather interesting. On the other hand I have to say that these lists only work if they are kept spam free and interesting, so that people actually read the posts and then try and give helpful answers.  With that in mind I have to say that it might be better if people who wanted copies of the photograph made their requests directly to Mike and didn't clutter up the list. I think that might make some other people happy! or happier!! Tomas. ________________________________ From: Maria <barrshaw1@live.com.au> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 16 November, 2009 3:38:04 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts I would like a copy of the  photo too Please Maria from Colyton NSW -------------------------------------------------- From: <citizenuk@aol.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 7:44 AM To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > > After reading all the comments on this subject, I too, would like a copy > of the photograph. > > Thanks. > > Bryan............... Colorado Springs, Colorado. US. > > > Bryan Briscoe-Smith > Email: citizenuk@aol.com

Mike I am contacting you off list in regards to your ghost photo. Please can you send me one. I have one also of the HMAS SYDNEY that went down in 1941 which my cousin took when she went to Geraldton which is in Western Australia & shows the monument with the HMAS Sydney under it, these photo's where taken 1 morning & the other in the afternoon so strange things do happen. Thanks again. Glenys ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hayes" <mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 1:01 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts Hi List This is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are getting "funny" about it. First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and not myself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you naughty peoples! Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or expression so someone can write something which, to one person will read how it was wriiten or be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on the article/topic. Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts not the contributors. Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced the same thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one may have been or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the photograph and what appered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, how do they know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that time fro an accurate description of what they looked like so my next door neighbour who has a beard could look like Jesus! At least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or what it may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and I will send you a copy and judge for yourselves. --- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way some devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday objects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name of Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face of Jesus in a slice of pizza. I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature, but photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow involved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he posts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to reply with scientific explanations. Also as a psychologist he is good at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there (see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's a former magician so its always fun. When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite aware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an explanation. Judy Olsen ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message