I'd like a copy please Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hayes" <mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts Hi List This is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are getting "funny" about it. First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and not myself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you naughty peoples! Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or expression so someone can write something which, to one person will read how it was wriiten or be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on the article/topic. Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts not the contributors. Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced the same thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one may have been or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the photograph and what appered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, how do they know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that time fro an accurate description of what they looked like so my next door neighbour who has a beard could look like Jesus! At least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or what it may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and I will send you a copy and judge for yourselves. --- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way some devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday objects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name of Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face of Jesus in a slice of pizza. I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature, but photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow involved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he posts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to reply with scientific explanations. Also as a psychologist he is good at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there (see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's a former magician so its always fun. When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite aware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an explanation. Judy Olsen ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 07:43:00
I, too, would like a copy please. Doreen. Aust. ----- Original Message ----- From: <arcmikmum@talktalk.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > I'd like a copy please > > Jane :o) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Hayes" <mikeljan1@yahoo.co.uk> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > > > Hi List > This is the only answer I will give to this topic as some of you are > getting > "funny" about it. > > First of all a slap on the wrist for those who contacted the rootsweb and > not myself via my email with regards to this post and my photograph, you > naughty peoples! > > Secondly and unfortunately on here, the written word has no tone or > expression so someone can write something which, to one person will read > how > it was wriiten or be misinterpreted as a sarcastic comment or an attack on > the article/topic. > > Third should it not be left to the administtator to call a halt to posts > not > the contributors. > > Fourth, the topic was relevant to the article posted as I had expericenced > the same thing when tracing gravestones and finding only grass where one > may > have been or not. It just so happened that at the time I took the > photograph > and what appered on there was not there when I took it or so I thought. > > Lastly, unlike those who claim to have seen images of Christ and Allah, > how > do they know it is them, there are not pictures/paintings of them at that > time fro an accurate description of what they looked like so my next door > neighbour who has a beard could look like Jesus! > At least I have an actual photograph verified or NOT as genuine and who or > what it may be of not a description 70 years after the event!# > > Mike Hayes rather rattled by people who should no better > > PS like I said at the beginning last word on the subject > > PPS those of you who genuinely would like to see the picture email me and > I > will send you a copy and judge for yourselves. > > > > > --- On Sat, 14/11/09, judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> wrote: > > From: judy olsen <copywriter@tesco.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Ghosts > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Saturday, 14 November, 2009, 23:16 > > People see what they want to see in 'ghost' pictures in the same way > some devout religious people notice sacred images in everyday > objects. But funnily enough you never get Christians seeing the name > of Allah in the seeds of an aubergine or a Muslim spotting the face > of Jesus in a slice of pizza. > > I don't see how a spiritualist can 'confirm' anything of this nature, > but photographers can usually explain the tricks of light and shadow > involved. I suggested sending the image to Richard Wiseman because he > posts such things to his blog for comments and people are able to > reply with scientific explanations. Also as a psychologist he is > good at explaining how we see or fail to see what is really there > (see his stuff on You Tube). I've been to a few of his talks and he's > a former magician so its always fun. > > When I was at school I 'saw a ghost' in the dormitory. So I'm quite > aware how convincing these things can be. But there is always an > explanation. > > > Judy Olsen > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.425 / Virus Database: 270.14.65/2502 - Release Date: 11/14/09 > 07:43:00 > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message