Hi I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had either been vandalised, not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the 1940's. However, on taking  a photograph with my digital  of the area I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as a mother and daughter. When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild and helmet with plumage. Mike Hayes --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 Hi I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and leaves. Very disappointing!! Carolyn At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years ago after >a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish kin had >no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that the >Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many of them >including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely could not >afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse and would >have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no indications >existed in this area also. >One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience and >helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery > >Dave D. > > > Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we set off > > to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, and we > > were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, despite > > high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, vertical or > > flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early > > unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a single > > solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That particular > > section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > >~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > >Admin Message - List guidelines: >http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > >The list admin can be contacted at >Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Mike ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? Dave On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: Hi I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had either been vandalised, not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as a mother and daughter. When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild and helmet with plumage. Mike Hayes --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 Hi I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and leaves. Very disappointing!! Carolyn At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: > Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years > ago after > a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish > kin had > no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that > the > Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many > of them > including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely > could not > afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse > and would > have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no > indications > existed in this area also. > One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great > lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience > and > helpfulness is rarely seen these days. > A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery > > Dave D. > >> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >> set off >> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >> and we >> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >> despite >> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >> vertical or >> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >> single >> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >> particular >> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Light, mists and cameras themselves can play funny tricks. I'm sure Richard Wiseman would like to see this. http:// richardwiseman.wordpress.com/ (Remember the Tantallon Ghost?) Judy On 14 Nov 2009, at 11:28, David Carr wrote: > Mike > > ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? > > Dave > On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: > > Hi > I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had > either been vandalised, > not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the > 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area > I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that > showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On > giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as > a mother and daughter. > When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it > revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild > and helmet with plumage. > > Mike Hayes > > --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: > > From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 > > Hi > I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same > thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 > grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the > cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only > grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone > could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor > quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and > leaves. Very disappointing!! > Carolyn > > At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >> ago after >> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >> kin had >> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >> the >> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >> of them >> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >> could not >> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >> and would >> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >> indications >> existed in this area also. >> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to >> great >> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >> and >> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >> >> Dave D. >> >>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>> set off >>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>> and we >>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>> despite >>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>> vertical or >>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>> single >>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>> particular >>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

I 2 would like to see the photo PLEASE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Carr" <carrspace@mac.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > Mike > > ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? > > Dave > On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: > > Hi > I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had > either been vandalised, > not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the > 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area > I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that > showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On > giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as > a mother and daughter. > When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it > revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild > and helmet with plumage. > > Mike Hayes > > --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: > > From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 > > Hi > I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same > thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 > grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the > cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only > grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone > could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor > quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and > leaves. Very disappointing!! > Carolyn > > At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >> ago after >> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >> kin had >> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >> the >> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >> of them >> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >> could not >> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >> and would >> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >> indications >> existed in this area also. >> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >> and >> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >> >> Dave D. >> >>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>> set off >>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>> and we >>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>> despite >>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>> vertical or >>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>> single >>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>> particular >>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- > request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

There are many instances of strange things happening in graveyards. I gave a short presentation to our local genealogy group about two strange things that happened to me........ Spooky Dave D. Canada > I 2 would like to see the photo PLEASE. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Carr" <carrspace@mac.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 8:28 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. > > >> Mike >> >> ok you've got our interest ..... can we see it? >> >> Dave >> On 14 Nov 2009, at 10:51, Mike Hayes wrote: >> >> Hi >> I did this at Flaybrick Cemetery here in Wirral. Many stones had >> either been vandalised, >> not been put up (too poor) or hit during the bombing raid in the >> 1940's. However, on taking a photograph with my digital of the area >> I got more than I bargained for in the shape of a swirling mist that >> showed, on closer look several faces which appeared ghost -like. On >> giving this photo to a spiritualist fried of my mums confirmed it as >> a mother and daughter. >> When showing it to a friend he turned the photo upside down and it >> revealed what looked like a soldier (Roman?) with spear/sword sheild >> and helmet with plumage. >> >> Mike Hayes >> >> --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> From: Carolyn Parker <ca.parker@comcast.net> >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Toxteth Park cemetery .. >> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 20:21 >> >> Hi >> I'd like to chime in on this discussion to let you know that the same >> thing happened to me in New York City while searching for an 1873 >> grave! I arrived with my digital camera and great hope. At the >> cemetery's office I was directed to the location but there was only >> grass there. Upon questioning the staff I was told that not everyone >> could afford a stone or other marker or it could have been of poor >> quality and it decomposed; or buried by wind swept rain,dirt and >> leaves. Very disappointing!! >> Carolyn >> >> At 09:35 AM 11/13/2009, you wrote: >>> Mike, I had a similar experience in returning to Merseyside years >>> ago after >>> a then 38 year absence. I was disappointed to find that my Standish >>> kin had >>> no stonework etc to mark their resting places. Then I realized that >>> the >>> Toxteth Park had a large population of working class folks and many >>> of them >>> including my kin lived in the dreaded "Courts" and most likely >>> could not >>> afford any indication to their grave. Others died in the workhouse >>> and would >>> have been buried in a section reserved for that purpose so no >>> indications >>> existed in this area also. >>> One thing I must say is that an employee at the cemetery went to great >>> lengths to help me locate the burial plots, such courtesy, patience >>> and >>> helpfulness is rarely seen these days. >>> A belated hats off the the staff at Toxteth Park cemetery >>> >>> Dave D. >>> >>>> Last April, armed with the location of some 23 of my forebears, we >>>> set off >>>> to discover their resting places. Access to the cemetery was easy, >>>> and we >>>> were able to park conveniently within the grounds. Sadly, however, >>>> despite >>>> high expectations, we were unable to discover any stonework, >>>> vertical or >>>> flat, relating to any of my ancestors. In one instance, on an early >>>> unconsecrated section, where I had two ancestors buried, just a >>>> single >>>> solitary headstone showed through the well mown grass. That >>>> particular >>>> section now seemed in current use for rememberance. >>> >>> >>> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >>> >>> Admin Message - List guidelines: >>> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >>> >>> The list admin can be contacted at >>> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL- >> request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Come on Dave - let's be havin' it! Marj There are many instances of strange things happening in graveyards. I gave a short presentation to our local genealogy group about two strange things that happened to me........ Spooky Dave D. Canada