----- Original Message ----- From: "William E. Gard" Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] REFORM SCHOOL > John, do you happen to know just where in Mount Vernon the reform school > was situated. I ask because I grew up in Edge Hill. My grandfather > married my > grandmother at St. Mary's church in 1904 and the marriage certificate > shows > him living at #3 Back Mount Vernon Green and Grandma living at #1 Irvine > Street (a still exisiting pub - Mount Vernon Hotel). (I never knew my > Grandpa to take a drink stronger than sarsasparilla). I had family living > in Albany Road that abuts Mount Vernon Green; I recall the Lybro factory > but that's it. > Bill in Nanaimo Hello Bill, I don't know its exact location but you may recall Mount Vernon Green runs between Mount Vernon and Hall Lane. Gore's 1900 Directory of Liverpool recorded six occupied properties in Mount Vernon Green:- No.3 Joseph Brown, Estate Agent. No.4 Colin Campbell, Cabinet Maker. No.5 William Wilson. No.6 Liverpool Girls Reformatory. No.7 Lancashire Female Refuge. No.8 Magdalene Institute. And from Joan Rimmer's book 'Yesterday's Naughty Children - A History of the Liverpool Reformatory Association, founded in 1855'... Number 6, Mount Vernon Green, a rambling private house situated on high ground at Edge Hill with open views front and back, was bought for £1,500 from James Addam in the spring of 1857 for its new function as a girls' reformatory. Its first registered owner was in residence in 1754, and the building's condition reflected its age. To make it habitable for between 50 and 60 girls, £198 was spent on alterations...' '...Between 1857 and 1921, several thousand girls passed through the portals of Mount Vernon Green and its associate establishment, Toxteth Park Girls Reformatory...' Clearly, the properties in Mount Vernon Green were quite substantial. Regards, John Hardy.