Hello Betty: I have an interest in this subject. Did these ships transport children in 1903? My Grandfather never explained how he got to Canada. In 1903 both his parents died in Liverpool. There were a few kids in the family. My Grandfather was 13 and his sister 14 yrs old. They came to Canada. I was told that his sister came to get married but she was only 14. He came with her. She did marry a Canadian but I don't know how they would have meet before when she was living in England and him in Ontario, Canada. Another member of the family thought they came to work on farms. Is there any way to get the names of the kids that came over on these ships? Looking forward to your reply. Bonnie Vancouver, BC Canada > From: bbffrrpp@comcast.net > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:42:45 -0400 > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Reform Ships and Child Migrants > > Hello, > > The "Akbar Reform Ship" has been mentioned on this List and the Lancsgen > List, and I have an interest in it because of Edward CORKILL being on it in > ~1872. He was the older brother of the 5 CORKILL children who went to > live in the Liverpool Sheltering Homes when it opened in 1873. Those > children were "shipped to Nova Scotia" in 1874. But, Edward somehow got > to the other end of Canada - Vancouver, British Columbia. > > I just read over the weekend on the Lancashire Message Board that there was > also the Clarence Reform Ship, this one for Catholic boys. And, the > historian said that the boys would then go onto the "sailing ships." My > question is whether the officials placed the boys on both ships - onto > sailing ships, or whether the boys had to make the arrangements themselves. > > It has been mentioned that these ships are discussed on the book, > "Yesterday's Naughty Children ..." So, I'm going to try to borrow the > book from my local library. This is the 2nd book I will be requesting. > For 2 years I've been wanting to borrow an excellent book on the "home > children" in Canada, written by Marjorie Kohli: "Golden Bridge: Young > Immigrants to Canada ...." (2003). I found out that they are both > available at university libraries in New England. > > Just a reminder that the latest web site about the "home children, Canada" > (aka BHC) is: > > http://www.britishhomechildren.org/ > > But, you will find many more sites about all the children "shipped to > Canada" by officials in the U.K. by a Google search for either: "British > Home Children" or "Home Children, Canada." And, so many people in > Canada and the USA are "spreading the word" that more books are being > written about them each year. And, now there are "plays" on stage about > them. We, on the BHC List, are trying hard to get the "home children" > officially discussed in Canada's schools. > > Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) > > > (on Lists for 8 years; now an Administrator for 8 Lists) > > > FYI: The youngest of the CORKILL children who were shipped to Canada were > 2 boys, Ages 5 and 3. They and their 3 sisters all went to different > homes in Nova Scotia. The sisters all married young. The boys did not > fare so well. John married later in life, married an older woman, never > had children, and then died before she did. Robert lived into his 60's > and never married. > > (There is now a CORKILL List.) > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Stay in the loop and chat with friends, right from your inbox! http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671354

Hi Bonnie, This is one data base you can use. If you're pretty sure of the names and spellings, you can do the search. But, many of the children either had their names wirtten down incorrectly, or the younger ones didn't know their surnames, or some of them changed their names - to go along with their new country. (Lots of stories in the archives of the BHC List.) http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/databases/home-children/index-e.html And, at that site you can use the wildcard feature. Or, search by first-name only, or search by location or ship, etc., only. Another thing you can do is to search the archives of the British Home Children List to see if your family's surname has already been discussed. My great-grandfather was 14 when he left Liverpool and went to Halifax in 1874. My great-grandmother was supposed to come over that year, at 14, with her younger siblings, but had misbehaved. So, she had to join them later. I have found out that Stanley and Mary had become friends at the Liverpool Sheltering Homes. So, they have to find each other after they got to Nova Scotia. So, your grandfather and his sister were probably "home children" in Canada. If you have trouble finding them in that data base, let me know. There are other data bases, but they are mostly researcher-contributed. Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonnie pelletier" <pelletierbonnie@hotmail.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Reform Ships and Child Migrants I have an interest in this subject. Did these ships transport children in 1903? My Grandfather never explained how he got to Canada. In 1903 both his parents died in Liverpool. There were a few kids in the family. My Grandfather was 13 and his sister 14 yrs old. They came to Canada. I was told that his sister came to get married but she was only 14. He came with her. She did marry a Canadian but I don't know how they would have meet before when she was living in England and him in Ontario, Canada. Bonnie Vancouver, BC Canada

Hi Bonnie, Here is a list form Archives Canada concerning Home Children as they called them. They even have a list of children and the ships them came on. http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/genealogy/022-908.009-e.html I hope this help, Joan Ottawa ----- Original Message ----- From: "bonnie pelletier" <pelletierbonnie@hotmail.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 23:00 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Reform Ships and Child Migrants > > Hello Betty: > > > > I have an interest in this subject. Did these ships transport children in > 1903? My Grandfather never explained how he got to Canada. In 1903 both > his parents died in Liverpool. There were a few kids in the family. My > Grandfather was 13 and his sister 14 yrs old. They came to Canada. I was > told that his sister came to get married but she was only 14. He came > with her. She did marry a Canadian but I don't know how they would have > meet before when she was living in England and him in Ontario, Canada. > > > > Another member of the family thought they came to work on farms. Is there > any way to get the names of the kids that came over on these ships? > > > > Looking forward to your reply. > > > > Bonnie > > Vancouver, BC > > Canada > >> From: bbffrrpp@comcast.net >> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2009 05:42:45 -0400 >> Subject: [ENG-LIV] Reform Ships and Child Migrants >> >> Hello, >> >> The "Akbar Reform Ship" has been mentioned on this List and the Lancsgen >> List, and I have an interest in it because of Edward CORKILL being on it >> in >> ~1872. He was the older brother of the 5 CORKILL children who went to >> live in the Liverpool Sheltering Homes when it opened in 1873. Those >> children were "shipped to Nova Scotia" in 1874. But, Edward somehow got >> to the other end of Canada - Vancouver, British Columbia. >> >> I just read over the weekend on the Lancashire Message Board that there >> was >> also the Clarence Reform Ship, this one for Catholic boys. And, the >> historian said that the boys would then go onto the "sailing ships." My >> question is whether the officials placed the boys on both ships - onto >> sailing ships, or whether the boys had to make the arrangements >> themselves. >> >> It has been mentioned that these ships are discussed on the book, >> "Yesterday's Naughty Children ..." So, I'm going to try to borrow the >> book from my local library. This is the 2nd book I will be requesting. >> For 2 years I've been wanting to borrow an excellent book on the "home >> children" in Canada, written by Marjorie Kohli: "Golden Bridge: Young >> Immigrants to Canada ...." (2003). I found out that they are both >> available at university libraries in New England. >> >> Just a reminder that the latest web site about the "home children, >> Canada" >> (aka BHC) is: >> >> http://www.britishhomechildren.org/ >> >> But, you will find many more sites about all the children "shipped to >> Canada" by officials in the U.K. by a Google search for either: "British >> Home Children" or "Home Children, Canada." And, so many people in >> Canada and the USA are "spreading the word" that more books are being >> written about them each year. And, now there are "plays" on stage about >> them. We, on the BHC List, are trying hard to get the "home children" >> officially discussed in Canada's schools. >> >> Betty (near Lowell, MA, USA) >> >> >> (on Lists for 8 years; now an Administrator for 8 Lists) >> >> >> FYI: The youngest of the CORKILL children who were shipped to Canada were >> 2 boys, Ages 5 and 3. They and their 3 sisters all went to different >> homes in Nova Scotia. The sisters all married young. The boys did not >> fare so well. John married later in life, married an older woman, never >> had children, and then died before she did. Robert lived into his 60's >> and never married. >> >> (There is now a CORKILL List.) >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay in the loop and chat with friends, right from your inbox! > http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9671354 > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >