During the course of my family research I have come across the information that my great grandfather (or his brother) went into partnership with a man called Jago and set up a sugar boiling business in Liverpool. They were bought out by a man called Fairey, and the firm then ended up as Criddles. Does anyone have any information on this or do the above names ring any bells with anyone? Lynda Nicholson

Lynda" Criddles animal food plant used to be situated between Great Homer Street and Scotland Road, opposite Rose Vale, with an entrance off Dryden Street. When I was a little lad in the 1930's, along with my mates, I used to run after their horse-drawn carts and gather the locust seeds (at least that's what we called them) which were like dates and very sweet and chewy. They came in sacks but there were always convenient holes in the sacks and the seeds fell out onto the cart. My mother would have killed me if she had known. Jim Ralph in Oak Hill, Virginia

In message <133.2d2880a.28f4cdce@aol.com>, LyndaNich@aol.com writes >During the course of my family research I have come across the information >that my great grandfather (or his brother) went into partnership with a man >called Jago and set up a sugar boiling business in Liverpool. They were >bought out by a man called Fairey, and the firm then ended up as Criddles. > >Does anyone have any information on this or do the above names ring any bells >with anyone? > According to Tate & Lyle's official history, "Sugar & All That", Antony Hugill, Gentry Books, 1978, three Fairrie brothers, Adam, James and Thomas, arrived in Liverpool from Scotland, where their brother John carried on the sugar refining business his father James (1754 - 1815) had begun at Greenock, Scotland, in 1797. They built their refinery in Vauxhall Road, it, and they became part of Tate and Lyle in 1929. Two descendants, Tony and James, were still with T&L in the 1970's. 'The Fairrie family is believed to be descended from a Spaniard named Fereira, a survivor from the (Spanish) Armada... in 1588..." Neither Jago nor Criddle are mentioned in the index... and you don't give your own ancestor's name.... But it looks as if they were all swallowed a gobful at a time, by Tate and Lyles... as was the Sankey Sugar Co. (see our site below). -- David Long Sankey Canal Restoration Society http://www.scars.org.uk/ Updated June 2001 - another issue of our magazine CANAL CUTTINGS - illustrated

David, I have a book called "The end of a Liverpool Landmark" The last years of Love Lane Refinery By J. A. Watson This was kindly sent to me by Eileen Guyver after I had written to Tate & Lyle for information about my grandfather and great grandfather ( both called Frederick Haake (Hoakes or Hookes) ) who worked for Fairries. It mentions that after the closure of Love Lane refinery there was only one oprerational unit connected with sugar, the Merton Grove Company in Bootle. The buildings were erected as a brewery in 1894 by a firm trading under the name of Wheatley and Bates Ltd until 1920, then occupied by W. E. Criddle & Sons who built up a thriving trade in syrup and treacle. In 1932 Criddles became associated with Macfie & Sons and George Jager and Co. The joint company operated under the name of The Merton Grove Co. Eileen also mentions that there is a small Museum and archive at the Thames Refinery. This is where the letter came from. Hope this is of interest Cathie Butler ( nee Haake ) Skelmersdale, Lancs. ----- Original Message ----- From: David Long <David@scars.org.uk> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] sugar boilers > In message <133.2d2880a.28f4cdce@aol.com>, LyndaNich@aol.com writes > >During the course of my family research I have come across the information > >that my great grandfather (or his brother) went into partnership with a man > >called Jago and set up a sugar boiling business in Liverpool. They were > >bought out by a man called Fairey, and the firm then ended up as Criddles. > > > >Does anyone have any information on this or do the above names ring any bells > >with anyone? > > > According to Tate & Lyle's official history, "Sugar & All That", Antony > Hugill, Gentry Books, 1978, three Fairrie brothers, Adam, James and > Thomas, arrived in Liverpool from Scotland, where their brother John > carried on the sugar refining business his father James (1754 - 1815) > had begun at Greenock, Scotland, in 1797. > They built their refinery in Vauxhall Road, it, and they became part of > Tate and Lyle in 1929. Two descendants, Tony and James, were still with > T&L in the 1970's. > 'The Fairrie family is believed to be descended from a Spaniard named > Fereira, a survivor from the (Spanish) Armada... in 1588..." > > Neither Jago nor Criddle are mentioned in the index... and you don't > give your own ancestor's name.... But it looks as if they were all > swallowed a gobful at a time, by Tate and Lyles... as was the Sankey > Sugar Co. (see our site below). > -- > David Long > Sankey Canal Restoration Society > http://www.scars.org.uk/ > Updated June 2001 - another issue of our magazine CANAL CUTTINGS - illustrated > > ______________________________

Lynda, From my childhood in Lancs we used to use Criddles Black Treacle especially on porridge during the war when sugar was scarce. Try this site from Google 'William E Criddle - 245 Vauxhall Road. 15 Freeman, Lloyd ... the refinery. From the first stage treacle was drained, and from later processing ..'. www.mawer.clara.net/liverpool.html Donald STOCK Auckland NZ --- Original Message ----- From: <LyndaNich@aol.com> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 11:01 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] sugar boilers > During the course of my family research I have come across the information > that my great grandfather (or his brother) went into partnership with a man > called Jago and set up a sugar boiling business in Liverpool. They were > bought out by a man called Fairey, and the firm then ended up as Criddles. > > Does anyone have any information on this or do the above names ring any bells > with anyone? > > Lynda Nicholson > > > ==== ENG-LIVERPOOL Mailing List ==== > Interested in Modern Newspaper Indexes? > Try http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections > >