>From the Lancashire Telegraph: RESIDENTS in Burnley will have the chance to trace back their family history at a special event taking place in April. The family history exploration day is being held at Gawthorpe Hall in Padiham as part of a project that is collecting people’s memories of the hall. The Portraits of the Past project has been running by Mid Pennine Arts since summer last year. It was set up from funding from the Heritage Lottery Fund’s Your Heritage Programme as a way to record information about the hall for future generations. The event on April 4 will allow participants can take a tour of Gawthorpe Hall and explore the SHUTTLEWORTH family history, before working on how to investigate their own family with help from the Lancashire County Council Community Heritage team. Participants will also get to experiment with creative ways to keep and display their family tree. Basic computer skills would be helpful, but not essential. Places are free and __lunch is included__, numbers are limited so booking is essential. To book a place contact Mid Pennine Arts on 01282 421986 ext 204. For more information about the project visit midpenninearts.org.uk

Posted on behalf of Ian Bloor: The BLO(O)R(E) Society Meeting Saturday, April 12th 2014 The Family History Society for anyone with BLOORS, BLOORES or BLORES in their Family Tree, no matter how far back. We also have BLEWERS and some BLOWERS in more than 100 trees. The Next Open Meeting will be held at The Arnold Methodist Church, in Arnold, Nottinghamshire on Saturday, April 12th 2014 Anyone interested in BLO(O)R(E) Family History will be Welcome. We know that there are several BLO(O)R(E) families in and around Nottingham, so we are holding this meeting to give these local BLOORs, BLOOREs and BLOREs (and BLEWERs and BLOWERs) an opportunity to discuss what they know, or would like to know, about their Family History. We'll be there, ready to help you, from about 10am until about 4pm. All our research tools and expertise will be available to help you start, restart or continue your own BLO(O)R(E) Family History research. And there will be tea, coffee, juice and biscuits Contact Ian Bloor for further information on 01270 811 260 or enquiries@bloor.org If you know someone who has BLO(O)R(E)S in their tree, please tell them of the meeting.

Hello listers, I wonder if someone can help - Clwyd Roberts was a great friend of my Taid's and the best man at my grandparents' wedding in 1927. I would be very interested to be in contact with any of his descendents - Clwyd's father was a watchmaker and my Taid was a very keen and skilled amateur watch- and clock-repairer, so I'm wonderig whether he learned those skills from Clwyd or his father, and am interested to learn more about the relationship between the two families.

My grandmother, who I never met, was born in Liverpool grew up in Tremadoc in North Wales, married in Liverpool and spent the rest of her life there. Jane was born 1864 in Edgehill her father Edward was a wheelwright, when she was 5 her mother died and she went to live with her mother's sister Mary Jones. I have a lovely photo of Jane taken on her wedding day. Jane Ellen Evans married William Henry Johnson in 1887 at St Michaels Toxteth. Dad said that if she didn't want her children to know what she was saying to a neighbour she spoke Welsh. William and Jane were first cousins, their mothers Anne and Ellinor Hughes were sisters. I would love to have met Jane as I'm sure there would have been wonderful stories to tell. Dianne Hughes Teesdale Victoria Australia

Well here goes May my grandmother Julia (Dixon) Cunningham and ggrandmother Elizabeth (Hagan) Cunningham (both born and lived their entire lives in Liverpool) rest in peace. I never had the opportunity to meet them but I am sure they would of had many interesting stories to pass on. Lesley in Oz

How nice, Wendy! It's always heartening to read a story such as yours. it is a great list, isn't it? Kind regards, Lynne Woo Lindsay <aussiewoo@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Not really "Mother" related, but it's not Mothers Day until May in >Australia. > >I would love to dearly thank this list for helping me, some years ago, find >my husband's grandmother's father, a Scotsman by the name of Robert LINDSAY, >from only a clue of "Aunty Cis" and an address of "12 Cupid Street Belmont" >in a letter sent just after WW2. As well as this, I only had an occupation >of Policeman from a marriage certificate and an Officer for the Prevention >of Cruelty to Children from a death certificate. I can't remember the >woman's name who played detective and found a whole new family solving a >mystery that had been worrying me for a decade. You know who you are and I >thank you most sincerely. What a great list. > >Wendy Lindsay in Australia

Not really "Mother" related, but it's not Mothers Day until May in Australia. I would love to dearly thank this list for helping me, some years ago, find my husband's grandmother's father, a Scotsman by the name of Robert LINDSAY, from only a clue of "Aunty Cis" and an address of "12 Cupid Street Belmont" in a letter sent just after WW2. As well as this, I only had an occupation of Policeman from a marriage certificate and an Officer for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children from a death certificate. I can't remember the woman's name who played detective and found a whole new family solving a mystery that had been worrying me for a decade. You know who you are and I thank you most sincerely. What a great list. Wendy Lindsay in Australia -----Original Message----- From: Liverpool List Admins. Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 11:50 AM To: eng-liverpool Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool mothers Good morning, everyone, and happy Mothering Sunday! Today would be a good day for everyone to mention a Liverpool mother. Could be your own mother, your grandmother, great grandmother, or some other mother that lived in or near Liverpool. Perhaps you have a story to tell, a bit of data to share, or a query. You've all been quiet lately. Let's hear from you! Kind regards, Carol & Lynne

What a very touching story. Thank you for sharing. -----Original Message----- From: Nora Kevan Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2014 2:52 AM To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool Mothers I hope my contribution is not considered too long. I remember my paternal grandmother as a little woman who was a bit absent minded. She would look for her glasses until someone noticed she had tipped them up onto the top of her head. I lived with her and my grandfather and two unmarried aunts from the age of 7 when my mother died until 14 when my father married again .. She wasn’t a very good cook ,and I was always glad when one of the aunts did the cooking But she was a wonderful organiser. All her children had household chores, even the boys. Her name was Sarah Allerton, born 16 Jun 1871 , the youngest of six daughters of James Allerton and Ellen Guy. She was only six months old when her father died. On 31 Mar 1891 She married Richard Edwards b. 23 Jan 1870 at St. Marys, Walton on the Hill. They had nine children between 1891 and 1911. She died 22 Nov 1944. Although just a small woman with an elementary school education she was well respected and obeyed by all her family. I always think of her as a woman ahead of her time. When she left school. , she had a position as cashier at Criers a high class grocers in Bootle. She met Richard when he was employed as a delivery van driver with the same firm and married him secretly a few months before her 21 birthday. Her widowed mother was a formidable person so Richard and she went back to their respective homes and did not own up to their marriage for six months. She was intelligent and of an independent mind. When women got the vote she made no secret of the fact that she would vote Labour in opposition to her husband who was a staunch Conservative and at different times of her life she was Secretary, Treasurer and President of the local branch of the Women’s Cooperative Movement. In the 1930s she was a Delegate to a couple of International Cooperative Conferences. She was also prominent in local church organisations . Having had to help her mother search for bring home and nurse an alcoholic step-father, she made a rule that no alcohol was allowed in her house. Although in later life , when visiting her married daughters she would turn a blind eye to a small amount of beer and a bottle of port for the ladies at Xmas and the New Year. Just before she died my aunt wrote telling me of her illness and I got leave from the Waaf to visit her. It was a long cross country journey from a remote airfield in Cornwall to an even more remote village in Denbighshire and no one knew I was coming. When after travelling all night I knocked on the cottage door my aunt was startled to see me She said my grandmother had died 20 minutes ago, (at about the time I had got off the bus) and the last thing she had said was “Nora’s coming” I am rather a sceptic about psychic matters but I like to think that her last thought was of me. Nora Kevan --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In 1947 I transferred to Arundel Avenue School in Liverpool 17 (think it's called Toxteth now). It was run by Anglican nuns, and I was amazed when Mothering Sunday came near, to be told for the first time what day it was, and I bought from the school a tiny "text card" with violets on it, for a penny ha'penny. In later years, I added a little bunch of fresh violets to the card. How different it is in today's world! We were taught that Mothering Sunday, the 4th Sunday in Lent, was the time when servants were allowed to go home to see their mothers, and to visit their own mother churches. My school still exists, it changed its name while I was there to St Hilda's and it's in Sefton Park. I often wonder if they still try to keep things simple - although the nuns don't run it these days. Marj ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4354 / Virus Database: 3722/7267 - Release Date: 03/29/14

Good morning, everyone, and happy Mothering Sunday! Today would be a good day for everyone to mention a Liverpool mother. Could be your own mother, your grandmother, great grandmother, or some other mother that lived in or near Liverpool. Perhaps you have a story to tell, a bit of data to share, or a query. You've all been quiet lately. Let's hear from you! Kind regards, Carol & Lynne ----------------------------------- Carol and Lynne Liverpool Joint List Administrators Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com

John The entry is included in BT334 - Registers and Indexes of Births, Marriages and Deaths of Passengers and Seamen at Sea. I have sent the original image separately. Ruth in Hampshire > -----Original Message----- > From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John M Lloyd > Sent: 29 March 2014 10:02 > To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Help Please! > > I am still researching the date of death of Thomas David Lloyd, born > 1873 in Toxteth. > > No applicable entry can be found in FreeBMD. However in FMP > there is an entry for a T D Lloyd, Country of Registration: > Unknown; Country of > Registration: Unknown; Registered Year: 1927. > > I do not have a FMP subscription at present so I would be > grateful if a group member could look at this entry for me > please. I find the entry puzzling. How does it come to be > there? Is this an official registration. How did it come to be posted? > > John > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing > list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the message >

I am still researching the date of death of Thomas David Lloyd, born 1873 in Toxteth. No applicable entry can be found in FreeBMD. However in FMP there is an entry for a T D Lloyd, Country of Registration: Unknown; Country of Registration: Unknown; Registered Year: 1927. I do not have a FMP subscription at present so I would be grateful if a group member could look at this entry for me please. I find the entry puzzling. How does it come to be there? Is this an official registration. How did it come to be posted? John

I would say it is definitely a 'W' There's also a death for a Richard Wiatt in Dec Q 1850 in Liverpool... Is this her husband? Joan ________________________________ From: Fontaine Wiatt <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014, 21:44 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Elizabeth Wiatt 1851 Census Thank you for the previous help.  I have a question on the 1851 UK Census. There is an entry for Elizabeth Wiatt and 3 children living in Liverpool. Household number 115. Children: Harnold Henrietta Thomas I am looking at this via Ancestry. There is column to the right of Elizabeth's name.  It is called "condition". I think it is the marriage status.  Other entries look like either "Mar" or "U". I need a second or third opinion. What is the letter in this column for Elizabeth ?  Is it a “W” ? Someone look at it if you don’t mind.  Does anyone agree or disagree that the letter is a "W". Thank you, W. W. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

had a look and I find it hard to say if it is a W for widow or a U for unmarried Sorry Helen On 28 March 2014 21:44, Fontaine Wiatt <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Thank you for the previous help. I have a question on the 1851 UK Census. > > There is an entry for Elizabeth Wiatt and 3 children living in Liverpool. > Household number 115. Children: > Harnold > Henrietta > Thomas > > I am looking at this via Ancestry. > There is column to the right of Elizabeth's name. It is called > "condition". > I think it is the marriage status. Other entries look like either "Mar" > or "U". > > I need a second or third opinion. > > What is the letter in this column for Elizabeth ? Is it a "W" ? > > Someone look at it if you don't mind. Does anyone agree or disagree that > the letter is a "W". > > Thank you, > > W. W. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Joan, Darlene and Helen. Joan, Elizabeth is the widow of Francis Wiatt (Jr). Funny thing, Elizabeth's son Harnold/Arnold was born before her marriage date to Francis.  I have not yet confirmed who Harnold's father was. Thanks all! W W -------------------------------------------- On Fri, 3/28/14, JOAN ZORN <j.zorn@btinternet.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Elizabeth Wiatt 1851 Census To: "eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com" <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, March 28, 2014, 10:19 PM I would say it is definitely a 'W' There's also a death for a Richard Wiatt in Dec Q 1850 in Liverpool... Is this her husband? Joan   ________________________________ From: Fontaine Wiatt <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, 28 March 2014, 21:44 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Elizabeth Wiatt 1851 Census   Thank you for the previous help.  I have a question on the 1851 UK Census. There is an entry for Elizabeth Wiatt and 3 children living in Liverpool. Household number 115. Children: Harnold Henrietta Thomas I am looking at this via Ancestry. There is column to the right of Elizabeth's name.  It is called "condition". I think it is the marriage status.  Other entries look like either "Mar" or "U". I need a second or third opinion. What is the letter in this column for Elizabeth ?  Is it a “W” ? Someone look at it if you don’t mind.  Does anyone agree or disagree that the letter is a "W". Thank you, W. W. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It definitely looks like a W to me - comparing it to other handwritten entries on other pages for unmarried, married, widowed. On 3/28/2014 2:44 PM, Fontaine Wiatt wrote: > Thank you for the previous help. I have a question on the 1851 UK Census. > > There is an entry for Elizabeth Wiatt and 3 children living in Liverpool. > Household number 115. Children: > Harnold > Henrietta > Thomas > > I am looking at this via Ancestry. > There is column to the right of Elizabeth's name. It is called "condition". > I think it is the marriage status. Other entries look like either "Mar" or "U". > > I need a second or third opinion. > > What is the letter in this column for Elizabeth ? Is it a “W” ? > > Someone look at it if you don’t mind. Does anyone agree or disagree that the letter is a "W". > > Thank you, > > W. W. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for the previous help. I have a question on the 1851 UK Census. There is an entry for Elizabeth Wiatt and 3 children living in Liverpool. Household number 115. Children: Harnold Henrietta Thomas I am looking at this via Ancestry. There is column to the right of Elizabeth's name. It is called "condition". I think it is the marriage status. Other entries look like either "Mar" or "U". I need a second or third opinion. What is the letter in this column for Elizabeth ? Is it a “W” ? Someone look at it if you don’t mind. Does anyone agree or disagree that the letter is a "W". Thank you, W. W.

Interesting recommendation from 2021 onwards Christine Dear Respondent I thought that you would be interested to know that the National Statistician, Jil Matheson, made her recommendation yesterday on the way forward for census and population statistics. In summary the recommendation is: • An online census of all households and communal establishments in England and Wales in 2021 as a modern successor to the traditional, paper-based decennial census. ONS recognises that special care would need to be taken to support those who are unable to complete the census online. This would be combined with: • Increased use of administrative data and surveys in order to enhance the statistics from the 2021 Census and improve annual statistics between censuses. • Together these would make the best use of all available data to provide the population statistics which England and Wales require and offer a springboard to the greater use of administrative data and annual surveys in the future. • Further research is to be carried out over the coming months and years to determine the most appropriate blend of methods and data sources. You can find the National Statistician’s recommendation here<http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/who-ons-are/programmes-and-projects/beyond-2011/beyond-2011-report-on-autumn-2013-consultation--and-recommendations/national-statisticians-recommendation.pdf> and the response from the Sir Andrew Dilnot, Chair of the UK Statistics Authority here<http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/who-ons-are/programmes-and-projects/beyond-2011/beyond-2011-report-on-autumn-2013-consultation--and-recommendations/letter-from-sir-andrew-dilnot-to-cabinet-office.pdf> The Government will respond in due course. Discussion with users has played a key role in informing our view of the best way forward. It strongly underlined the value to users of existing census data about small areas, about small populations and as part of the historical record. It also showed that users recognise the potential value of modernising our approach and making use of other sources. We feel the resulting recommendation of a mixed approach provides the best possible solution and a very positive base for the future. Our summary report of the consultation <http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/about-ons/who-ons-are/programmes-and-projects/beyond-2011/beyond-2011-report-on-autumn-2013-consultation--and-recommendations/report-on-public-consultation.pdf> is also published today. We look forward to continuing to work with you as we refine the approach over coming months and years. Please contact us at beyond2011@ons.gov.uk<mailto:beyond2011@ons.gov.uk> if you have any questions or wish to discuss further. Kind regards Ian Cope Director of Population and Demography Directorate For the latest data on the economy and society, consult National Statisics at http://www.ons.gov.uk

The symbol next to Mary, Francis and Letitia is 'N' ie not born in county (Lancashire) Joan ________________________________ From: Joan Armistead <mominatornana@gmail.com> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, 25 March 2014, 23:12 Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Question on 1841 Census possibly Francis Waitt On Mar 25, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Vern Prescott <vprescott@gmail.com> wrote: > This column should contain Y for yes, the person was born in the county > (Lancashire) or N for no the person was not born in the county. > > > On 25 March 2014 17:55, Fontaine Wiatt <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> >> I could use an extra set of eyes on a couple of census sheets from the >> 1841 and 1851 UK Census. >> >> In the 1841 Census there is a Francis Wiatt (age 44), who may be listed as >> Francis Wead, living in Liverpool, Lancashire.  I am viewing this with >> Ancestry. >> >> This is the household: >> >> Frans Wead/Wiatt  44 >> Mary Wead/Wiatt    45 >> Francis Wead/Wiatt  21 >> Letitia Wead/Wiatt  91  (Possibly it says 27 ?) >> Helen Gafney  32 >> >> There is column to the right of the names; it is called "Where born". >> >> For Francis (age 44) I think it says "Y". >> >> But for Mary, Francis and Letitia it says ????  What is that symbol ?  Is >> it an "L" ? >> >> If it is an "L", does infer Liverpool ?? >> Does the "Y" mean Lancashire ? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> W. W. >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No >> fees! >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com  Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list.  No fees!  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi On the 1841 Francis is Y born in County and the rest are N for no. It's just very flowery handwriting. I'll have a loom at the 51 for you. Sent from my iPad > On 25 Mar 2014, at 23:19, "Fontaine Wiatt" <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Thank you Joan and Vern. > > I understand. But on the census sheet that I am looking at, it has a "Y" for Francis (age 44) and it has another symbol for his family members. > > I was hoping someone would look at it and tell me if they see the same thing I do. It might be a "L" for his family members. but it is not the same symbol that is marked for Francis. I would like a second, or third, opinion. > > Many Thanks! > > William > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Tue, 3/25/14, Joan Armistead <mominatornana@gmail.com> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Question on 1841 Census > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014, 10:47 PM > > This is ancestry’s > description of the where born column:**The "Where > Born" column only asked two questions - 1) whether born > in same county, and 2) whether born in Scotland, Ireland, or > Foreign Parts. Possible answers and abbreviations to > question #1 include: Yes (Y), No, (N), or Not Known (NK). > For question #2, the following abbreviations were used: > Scotland (S), Ireland (I), and Foreign Parts > > > > > > On Mar 25, > 2014, at 5:55 PM, Fontaine Wiatt <f.wiatt@yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> >> I could use an extra set of eyes on a > couple of census sheets from the >> 1841 > and 1851 UK Census. >> >> In the 1841 Census there is a Francis > Wiatt (age 44), who may be listed as Francis Wead, living in > Liverpool, Lancashire. I am viewing this with > Ancestry. >> >> This is > the household: > Frans Wead/Wiatt 44 > Mary Wead/Wiatt 45 >> Francis > Wead/Wiatt 21 >> Letitia > Wead/Wiatt 91 (Possibly it says 27 ?) >> Helen Gafney 32 >> >> There is column to > the right of the names; it is called "Where born”. >> >> For Francis (age 44) > I think it says “Y”. >> >> But for Mary, Francis and Letitia it says > ???? What is that symbol ? Is it an “L” > ? >> >> If it is an > “L”, does infer Liverpool ?? > Does the “Y” mean Lancashire ? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> W. W. >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can > be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > >> >> Buy or sell > family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- >> To > unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List > guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be > contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > > Buy or sell family > research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the > message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message