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    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] John Blundell Bosun
    2. Andy via
    3. Hi On the Familysearch Home Page Search enter John Blundell scroll down to Search with a life event: and select Any. Then enter the year range 1944 to 1944 There are 2 different results for him in the New York, New York Passenger and Crew Lists, 1909, 1925-1957 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2HSM-29B https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/2HSM-2SX Andy -----Original Message----- From: hilary.rimmer1 via Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 6:12 PM To: Eng-Liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] John Blundell Bosun I was trawling through Family Search when I came across a crew list for 1944 from out of Liverpool and John was on the list. I thought I would print the list, my printer is in a different room, so I lost the list, but for the life of me I cannot find that entry again. John was born in Liverpool in 1901. Can anyone help Hilary. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~

    08/25/2014 12:24:06
    1. [ENG-LIV] John Blundell Bosun
    2. hilary.rimmer1 via
    3. I was trawling through Family Search when I came across a crew list for 1944 from out of Liverpool and John was on the list. I thought I would print the list, my printer is in a different room, so I lost the list, but for the life of me I cannot find that entry again. John was born in Liverpool in 1901. Can anyone help Hilary.

    08/25/2014 03:12:25
    1. [ENG-LIV] Fw: St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. John Maddocks via
    3. -----Original Message----- From: John Maddocks Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:15 AM To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello Elizabeth You might be interested to know that in my copy of Gores Liverpool Directory for 1821 there are 13 Hattons listed ,, 2 Josephs one a Sail Maker also Thomas liquor merchants,St Peters Church was also thesite of a F W Woolworths store I think the first in England ,I remember a brass cross on the kerb stone in the 40,s ,Hattons where of course famous in the time of Elizabeth the 1st John Maddocks New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kraus Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:12 AM To: David Jones ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello David Thank you so much for your information. I had at the OPC records for Lancashire for Hattons. There are quite a few...and they worshipped at a number of different churches! Thomas Hatton, a wine merchant was in Liverpool from at least 1800 when he married Mary Connor in St Peter's Church. They had 8 children between 1801 and 1814 and my great great grandmother Mary Ann was the eldest. Whether Thomas (my 3xgreat grandfather) was/is indeed related to your Margery as yet I don't know. I found amongst the OPC records 6 children born to Robert and Margery Lloyd between 1800 and 1811 - Henry 1800, Ann 1803, Henry 1806, Robert 1808, Thomas 1810 and Robert 1811. Robert was a joiner. However what is interesting is though that I found 2 additional Hatton marriages between 1797 and 1801 which appear to be related to your family. 21 Feb 1800 at St Anne Richmond - Joseph Hatton, sailmaker married Mary Cazzaretto (widow) - no children. 19 Oct 1800 again at St Anne Richmond Robert Morley, mariner married Margaret Hatton - 1 child Robert born 1804 after his father's death. In all 3 cases Thomas Wright was one of the witnesses. The UK Genuki site has an interesting article on St Anne Richmond, though now demolished. It seems to have been in the Everton area of Liverpool, whereas my family worshipped in more central churches of St Peter and St Phillip. However all the Hattons could well be connected if we could just find the link! regards Elizabeth (Victoria, Australia) -----Original Message----- From: David Jones Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:27 PM To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello Elizabeth, This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. Regards, David Jones On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: > Hello fellow listers > I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to > Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in > 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've > discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings > were > born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am > eternally grateful. > > This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in > Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip > across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - > opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other > Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge > shopping > centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in > my > special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the > full > journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to > the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the > Mersey' > and made my day! > > And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, > when > I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't > retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to > Isle > of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at > the > hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should > have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old > co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th > century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information > would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to > please > send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden > table? > > I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now > residential. > What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton > family, > it could well add another dimension. > > There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so > welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because > there > are very few places in the world I feel the same! > > Hoping someone can help. > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/22/2014 08:52:02
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. John Maddocks via
    3. Hello Elizabeth You might be interested to know that in my copy of Gores Liverpool Directory for 1821 there are 13 Hattons listed ,, 2 Josephs one a Sail Maker also Thomas liquor merchants,St Peters Church was also thesite of a F W Woolworths store I think the first in England ,I remember a brass cross on the kerb stone in the 40,s ,Hattons where of course famous in the time of Elizabeth the 1st John Maddocks New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: Elizabeth Kraus Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 11:12 AM To: David Jones ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello David Thank you so much for your information. I had at the OPC records for Lancashire for Hattons. There are quite a few...and they worshipped at a number of different churches! Thomas Hatton, a wine merchant was in Liverpool from at least 1800 when he married Mary Connor in St Peter's Church. They had 8 children between 1801 and 1814 and my great great grandmother Mary Ann was the eldest. Whether Thomas (my 3xgreat grandfather) was/is indeed related to your Margery as yet I don't know. I found amongst the OPC records 6 children born to Robert and Margery Lloyd between 1800 and 1811 - Henry 1800, Ann 1803, Henry 1806, Robert 1808, Thomas 1810 and Robert 1811. Robert was a joiner. However what is interesting is though that I found 2 additional Hatton marriages between 1797 and 1801 which appear to be related to your family. 21 Feb 1800 at St Anne Richmond - Joseph Hatton, sailmaker married Mary Cazzaretto (widow) - no children. 19 Oct 1800 again at St Anne Richmond Robert Morley, mariner married Margaret Hatton - 1 child Robert born 1804 after his father's death. In all 3 cases Thomas Wright was one of the witnesses. The UK Genuki site has an interesting article on St Anne Richmond, though now demolished. It seems to have been in the Everton area of Liverpool, whereas my family worshipped in more central churches of St Peter and St Phillip. However all the Hattons could well be connected if we could just find the link! regards Elizabeth (Victoria, Australia) -----Original Message----- From: David Jones Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:27 PM To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello Elizabeth, This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. Regards, David Jones On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: > Hello fellow listers > I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to > Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in > 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've > discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings > were > born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am > eternally grateful. > > This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in > Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip > across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - > opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other > Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge > shopping > centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in > my > special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the > full > journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to > the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the > Mersey' > and made my day! > > And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, > when > I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't > retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to > Isle > of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at > the > hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should > have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old > co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th > century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information > would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to > please > send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden > table? > > I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now > residential. > What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton > family, > it could well add another dimension. > > There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so > welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because > there > are very few places in the world I feel the same! > > Hoping someone can help. > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/22/2014 03:15:18
    1. [ENG-LIV] Seeking info re Gatty/Gattey
    2. Tim via
    3. I have the following via ancestry re 3gt grandfather Edward and his father. Marriage: 5 Apr 1810 Holy Trinity, Liverpool, Lancs. William Gatty, Gentleman - Liverpool Ann Murry - Spinster, Same parish Witness: Jas. Davies; Thos. Bowland Married by License by: Thomas Moss Curate Register: Marriages 1792 - 1810, Page 178, Entry 641 Source: LDS Film 1656015 They had 3 children (Catholic baptisms) All bapt Liverpool St Mary 20 Jan 1813 20th was bapt Edward,son of William and Ann Gatty ,(next bit in brackets hard to read but starts with born then 6th Jan.) Spons(Thomas Glover and Cath Byrneby proxy) for Peter Lonsdale and Mgt Taylor by me Jno(?) Rigby 5 Jun 1810 was bapt Thomas,son of William and Ann Gatty (born 5th inst) spons John Shaw proxy for Edwd Davis and Catherine Murray 25 May 1811 was bapt William,son of William and Ann Gatty (born 21st inst) Spons James Davis and Margt Duckworth

    08/21/2014 10:51:43
    1. [ENG-LIV] St Martins in the field cemetery
    2. Ray Jenkins via
    3. Hi I know the graves from St Martins church cemetery were moved to St Mary Walton on the Hill after WW2. but were the graves from the St Martins parish cemetery next door also moved or is that cemetery still there. Thanks Ray jenkins ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2013.0.3485 / Virus Database: 3955/8075 - Release Date: 08/21/14

    08/21/2014 10:43:35
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. Elizabeth Kraus via
    3. Hello David Thank you so much for your information. I had at the OPC records for Lancashire for Hattons. There are quite a few...and they worshipped at a number of different churches! Thomas Hatton, a wine merchant was in Liverpool from at least 1800 when he married Mary Connor in St Peter's Church. They had 8 children between 1801 and 1814 and my great great grandmother Mary Ann was the eldest. Whether Thomas (my 3xgreat grandfather) was/is indeed related to your Margery as yet I don't know. I found amongst the OPC records 6 children born to Robert and Margery Lloyd between 1800 and 1811 - Henry 1800, Ann 1803, Henry 1806, Robert 1808, Thomas 1810 and Robert 1811. Robert was a joiner. However what is interesting is though that I found 2 additional Hatton marriages between 1797 and 1801 which appear to be related to your family. 21 Feb 1800 at St Anne Richmond - Joseph Hatton, sailmaker married Mary Cazzaretto (widow) - no children. 19 Oct 1800 again at St Anne Richmond Robert Morley, mariner married Margaret Hatton - 1 child Robert born 1804 after his father's death. In all 3 cases Thomas Wright was one of the witnesses. The UK Genuki site has an interesting article on St Anne Richmond, though now demolished. It seems to have been in the Everton area of Liverpool, whereas my family worshipped in more central churches of St Peter and St Phillip. However all the Hattons could well be connected if we could just find the link! regards Elizabeth (Victoria, Australia) -----Original Message----- From: David Jones Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 11:27 PM To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello Elizabeth, This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. Regards, David Jones On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: > Hello fellow listers > I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to > Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in > 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've > discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings > were > born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am > eternally grateful. > > This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in > Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip > across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - > opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other > Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge > shopping > centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in > my > special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the > full > journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to > the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the > Mersey' > and made my day! > > And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, > when > I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't > retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to > Isle > of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at > the > hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should > have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old > co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th > century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information > would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to > please > send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden > table? > > I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now > residential. > What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton > family, > it could well add another dimension. > > There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so > welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because > there > are very few places in the world I feel the same! > > Hoping someone can help. > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/21/2014 03:12:46
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool directories.
    2. John Hardy via
    3. Hello Judith, On 1871 census, 44 Bevington Bush was occupied by two families: William Stoddart, a cotton porter and his wife Elizabeth. Also, James and Elizabeth Waters with Elizabeth's widowed mother Elizabeth Park. At number 36 Bevington Bush was a Michael Hurley, a shoe(maker), with his wife Ellen. The Hurley's moved into number 44 until 1874. Gores 1874 street directory has Michael Hurley, shoemaker, occupying number 44 and in 1875 Andrew Rabb, labourer, was the occupant. Cheers, John. ----- Original Message ----- From: Judith Edwards Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 4:25 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool directories. Does anyone know how I can see Gore's Liverpool Directories or similar on line? I want to know who resided at 44 Bevington Bush from 1871 to 1875.My ancestor Andrew Raab was recorded as living there in Sep 1875, when his death was recorded in the Liverpool Mercury.He lived in Cheshire in 1871(Census information) and I want to find out when he moved to Liverpool.Thanks,Judith

    08/20/2014 05:20:52
    1. [ENG-LIV] Rose McCARTNEY born 1802 Liverpool
    2. Brian Taylor via
    3. I am hoping someone may be able to help me trace the birth/baptism or parents of Rose or Rosanna McCartney who according to the 1851 & 1861 Census was born around 1802 in Liverpool. I first came across her as the wife of Charles Reynolds Richardson whom she married 15 Jan 1833 at St. Peter, Church Street, Liverpool. The marriage register shows she was a widow named Rosanna Whittingham. She had previously married Samuel Whittingham, a Cooper on 17 Dec 1827 at St Michael's, Liverpool. Her maiden name is recorded in this marriage as Rose McCartney, of this Parish, but I have not been able to trace any record of her before this marriage. Can anyone help please? Brian Taylor See the "Our Lancashire Appletons" website @ http://homepage.ntlworld.com/brianh.taylor/

    08/19/2014 04:30:36
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. Eddie Lester via
    3. To the people in my area of l'pool he was and will be a hero ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Gard" <bill_gard@telus.net> To: "David Jones" <davidjones163@btinternet.com>; "Elizabeth Kraus" <greliz7@bigpond.com>; <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches > And of course there is the notorious Derek Hatton still in Liverpool. > > Bill in Nanaimo > > -----Original Message----- > From: David Jones via > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 6:27 AM > To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches > > Hello Elizabeth, > This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not > such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, > which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery > Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at > Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all > about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various > reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an > eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my > attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be > sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. > > Regards, > David Jones > > On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: >> Hello fellow listers >> I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to >> Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in >> 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then >> I've >> discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings >> were >> born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am >> eternally grateful. >> >> This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in >> Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a >> trip >> across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - >> opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other >> Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge >> shopping >> centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in >> my >> special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the >> full >> journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to >> the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the >> Mersey' >> and made my day! >> >> And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, >> when >> I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I >> didn't >> retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to >> Isle >> of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at >> the >> hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should >> have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old >> co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th >> century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information >> would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to >> please >> send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden >> table? >> >> I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now >> residential. >> What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton >> family, >> it could well add another dimension. >> >> There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so >> welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because >> there >> are very few places in the world I feel the same! >> >> Hoping someone can help. >> Kind regards >> Elizabeth >> >> >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No >> fees! >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    08/19/2014 12:27:39
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool directories.
    2. Lilly Martin Sahiounie via
    3. http://cdm16445.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/ The link above is a FREE website which does have some Liverpool city directories. Check it out, I have used it a great deal. Best regards, Lilly Martin -----Original Message----- From: Judith Edwards via Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 5:25 PM To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Liverpool directories. Does anyone know how I can see Gore's Liverpool Directories or similar on line? I want to know who resided at 44 Bevington Bush from 1871 to 1875.My ancestor Andrew Raab was recorded as living there in Sep 1875, when his death was recorded in the Liverpool Mercury.He lived in Cheshire in 1871(Census information) and I want to find out when he moved to Liverpool.Thanks,Judith ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/18/2014 12:55:13
    1. [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. Elizabeth Kraus via
    3. Hello fellow listers I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings were born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am eternally grateful. This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge shopping centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in my special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the full journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the Mersey' and made my day! And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, when I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to Isle of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at the hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to please send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden table? I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now residential. What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton family, it could well add another dimension. There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because there are very few places in the world I feel the same! Hoping someone can help. Kind regards Elizabeth

    08/18/2014 10:55:18
    1. [ENG-LIV] Liverpool directories.
    2. Judith Edwards via
    3. Does anyone know how I can see Gore's Liverpool Directories or similar on line? I want to know who resided at 44 Bevington Bush from 1871 to 1875.My ancestor Andrew Raab was recorded as living there in Sep 1875, when his death was recorded in the Liverpool Mercury.He lived in Cheshire in 1871(Census information) and I want to find out when he moved to Liverpool.Thanks,Judith

    08/18/2014 09:25:31
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. David Jones via
    3. Hello Elizabeth, This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. Regards, David Jones On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: > Hello fellow listers > I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to > Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in > 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've > discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings were > born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am > eternally grateful. > > This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in > Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip > across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - > opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other > Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge shopping > centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in my > special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the full > journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to > the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the Mersey' > and made my day! > > And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, when > I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't > retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to Isle > of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at the > hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should > have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old > co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th > century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information > would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to please > send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden table? > > I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now residential. > What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton family, > it could well add another dimension. > > There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so > welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because there > are very few places in the world I feel the same! > > Hoping someone can help. > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/18/2014 08:27:05
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches
    2. Bill Gard via
    3. And of course there is the notorious Derek Hatton still in Liverpool. Bill in Nanaimo -----Original Message----- From: David Jones via Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 6:27 AM To: Elizabeth Kraus ; eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] St Nicholas & St Peters Churches Hello Elizabeth, This is a very long shot, based simply on the fact that Hatton is not such a common name, and you say that Mary Hatton was your gggmother, which makes the dates just about OK for me. My gggmother was Margery Hatton, who married my gggfather Robert Lloyd on 29 Dec 1799 at Liverpool St Anne. I know a bit about Robert Lloyd, but nothing at all about Margery. My family history is fallow at the moment, as for various reasons I don't have time to do anything on it at present. But I keep an eye on the Liverpool Rootsweb list, and your message caught my attention. Are the dates anything like right? Could Mary and Margery be sisters? I'd be interested to hear from you. Maybe we can help each other. Regards, David Jones On 18/08/2014 07:55, Elizabeth Kraus via wrote: > Hello fellow listers > I've recently returned from a trip to the UK. It included a visit to > Liverpool, albeit short it was lovely to return...my first visit was in > 2010. At that time I knew little of my family connections. Since then I've > discovered that my great great grandmother Mary Hatton and her siblings > were > born there! Several listers helped me find them and more - to whom I am > eternally grateful. > > This time my plan was twofold. To find the plaque in/on the pavement in > Church Street, which denotes the site of St Peter's Church and take a trip > across the Mersey. Yes I accomplished both and more! Firstly the plaque - > opposite Marks and Spencer next to a signpost directing all to other > Liverpool sights and directly in front of the entrance to the huge > shopping > centre Liverpool One - thanks also to those who assisted me and shared in > my > special moment! The trip across the Mersey was wonderful as I took the > full > journey visiting the ports of Seacombe and Woodside too...again thanks to > the great commentaries and the ladies who sang 'The Ferry across the > Mersey' > and made my day! > > And the more...I was heading back to my hotel and it was getting late, > when > I heard the bells of St Nicholas. Though drawn to stop and listen I didn't > retrace my steps nor could I visit the next day as I was travelling to > Isle > of Man by ferry. However later that evening I asked the receptionist at > the > hotel for help. We discovered, thanks to Wikipedia, that indeed I should > have! On the south side is the 'Chapel of St Peter, commemorating the old > co-parish church of St Peter's, which stood on Church Street. The 18th > century wooden table was once the altar there'. Any further information > would be much appreciated. Would it be possible for a local lister to > please > send me a photo of St Nicholas, the Chapel of St Peter and the wooden > table? > > I also discovered a street named 'Hatton Gardens', which is now > residential. > What are its origins? As I'm searching for information on my Hatton > family, > it could well add another dimension. > > There's something very special about Liverpool. I always feel so > welcome...not a tourist but as if I belong there. It's amazing because > there > are very few places in the world I feel the same! > > Hoping someone can help. > Kind regards > Elizabeth > > > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No > fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/18/2014 12:43:08
    1. [ENG-LIV] Griffith Davies and May Kelsall
    2. Lilly Martin Sahiounie via
    3. Hello, This is my first posting to this list. I am researching Griffith Davies, who was listed in 1920 and 1922 as a Bank Clerk living in Liverpool. In 1920 his home address was: 24 Clifton Road in the RD of West Derby In 1922 his home address was: 8 St James Close, West Derby RD His wife was May Kelsall born 1892 Liverpool. Both her parents were from Liverpool. I already know everything about May Kelsall, her parents and siblings. However, I know nothing about her husband Griffith Davies. I imagine Griffith Davies was born between 1875-1895. There was a divorce, or permanent split between the 2 persons about 1927. They had children together in 1920, 1922, 1925. I have those records. The grand children of Griffith Davies have asked all living relatives about him, but they got no information. I did confirm that there were several men in Liverpool named Griffith Davies. I need to narrow down the search to one who was a Bank Clerk. His children and wife later moved by 1938 to Cheshire and remained there lifelong. I do not have any birth, marriage, or death information for Griffith Davies. Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. Best regards, Lilly Martin

    08/15/2014 10:41:19
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Griffith Davies and May Kelsall
    2. Carolyn Parker via
    3. Do you have an Ellen/Elinor Halsall in your tree? Thanks, Carolyn Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Lilly Martin Sahiounie via <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Hello, > This is my first posting to this list. > I am researching Griffith Davies, who was listed in 1920 and 1922 as a Bank > Clerk living in Liverpool. > In 1920 his home address was: 24 Clifton Road in the RD of West Derby > In 1922 his home address was: 8 St James Close, West Derby RD > His wife was May Kelsall born 1892 Liverpool. Both her parents were from > Liverpool. I already know everything about May Kelsall, her parents and > siblings. > However, I know nothing about her husband Griffith Davies. > I imagine Griffith Davies was born between 1875-1895. > There was a divorce, or permanent split between the 2 persons about 1927. > They had children together in 1920, 1922, 1925. I have those records. > The grand children of Griffith Davies have asked all living relatives about > him, but they got no information. > I did confirm that there were several men in Liverpool named Griffith > Davies. I need to narrow down the search to one who was a Bank Clerk. > His children and wife later moved by 1938 to Cheshire and remained there > lifelong. > I do not have any birth, marriage, or death information for Griffith Davies. > Any help or advice is greatly appreciated. > Best regards, > Lilly Martin > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > > Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/15/2014 04:50:04
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Blundell/Heffron
    2. Andy via
    3. Hi The John J Blundell and Mary A Heffron marriage was Liverpool, Register Office or Registrar Attended, you would need to purchase the certificate to find the details. Curiously, given your surname, there is another marriage in the same Qtr John E BLUNDELL and Margaret E RIMMER at Bootle, St Andrew in the West Derby Registration District. Andy -----Original Message----- From: hilary.rimmer1 via Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2014 5:09 PM To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] Blundell/Heffron Can anyone help with locating the marriage of John James Blundell to Mary Ann Heffron in the September quarter of 1924. Thank You Hilary. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com Buy or sell family research items on the GEN-MAT-UKI mailing list. No fees! ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/12/2014 12:08:29
    1. [ENG-LIV] Lancashire BMD updates - July 2014
    2. Lynne via
    3. >From our friends at Lancashire BMD: 3 July 2014 Added 1,060 Births for Blackburn RD comprising: Blackburn (1969-1972) Amended 148,568 Births for Manchester RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Ancoats (1837-1917) Added 2,425 Deaths for Blackburn RD comprising: Darwen & Turton (1984-1999) 8 July 2014 Minor corrections to West Lancashire marriages 28 July 2014 Added 3,025 Births for Stretford RD comprising: Urmston (1951-1951); Stretford (1944-1960) 29 July 2014 Added 14,199 Births for Bolton RD comprising: Farnworth (1905-1909); Halliwell (1897-1904); Little Bolton (1877-1880) Amended 38,905 Births for Manchester RD to include mother's maiden name, comprising: Market Street (1837-1881) Added 64,968 Deaths for Manchester RD comprising: Ardwick (1883-1911) ~ ~ ~ ~ Cheshire and Yorkshire BMD have also been updated. Many thanks to all responsible! Search for your ancestors in Lancashire at http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk or use the multi-region search at http://www.ukbmdsearch.org.uk/ Happy searching! Lynne

    08/12/2014 09:05:46
    1. [ENG-LIV] Looking for
    2. Steve via
    3. Hi Iam looking for burial info on, Thomas Davies, Born 1784 married Jane Quirk 1814 died January 1851 in Liverpool. I( need to find out if possible were he is buried Thanks Steve ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4744 / Virus Database: 4007/8021 - Release Date: 08/12/14

    08/12/2014 04:56:55