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    1. [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions!
    2. D E Gaunt
    3. HI List I'm new to this particular List and have searched the Archives for any help with this problem. No luck, so am asking if there is anyone with any suggestions. I am helping a friend research her husband's ancestor who emigrated from Ireland to Liverpool sometime before 1878. His name was John BURILIN and this is the name the family has used ever since, but it seems to have been a new version of another name. (Burlin? Burland? Barlan? Bryland? Etc etc) 23 year old John Berilin married Mary Ann DWYER at the Church of Our Lady of Mercy (marriage cert), in 1878. His father is John Berilin too. 'Our' John became Burilin in the 1881 Census and he gave his place of birth as Ireland. My problems: . I cannot find anything about this Church. I did find a mid-1850s picture of a convent of Our Lady of Mercy and wondered if it was likely that they were married in the Chapel of the convent? . Where could I find the records of such a marriage? I have looked in the Liverpool Record Office index and there's nothing there. Would it be appropriate to write to the diocese office ? (if there is such a thing - I have not done any Catholic (or Irish) research so am not sure of the procedure.) . The Marriage Certificate says 'Married by Certificate" I'm used to English and Scottish certs which say "By licence' or 'After banns' so I don't know what significance this has. . John is not on the 1871 Census and nor are there any others with the name, which suggests he went to Liverpool on his own. But how on earth do I find whereabouts in Ireland? . Mary Ann Dwyer's father came from Co Kilkenny. Did Irish people stick together with others from their home area? So many questions, but if someone could help with even one I'd be grateful! I just don't know where to go from here. Many thanks Dorothy New Zealand

    07/15/2009 03:13:42
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Andy Candlish
    3. Hi I'm not sure what information would be held by the church as according to LancashireBMD the marriage between Bridget M MANLEY and John J CREEGAN (sic) was a Register Office or Registrar Attended marriage. The reasom for this is as follows. Until 1898 only Church of England, Jewish and Quaker places of worship were entitled to maintain their own marriage registers. All other non-conformist and Roman Catholic marriages had to be conducted in the presence of a registrar, and are therefore listed as 'Civil Marriages', together with all those conducted at the local register office. After 1898 non-conformist and Roman Catholic churches were allowed to keep their own registers and celebrate their own marriages, Andy Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay

    07/15/2009 03:13:11
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions!
    2. Merseyside
    3. Dorothy Our Lady of Mercy was on Mount Vernon St, it was demolished and records transferred to Sacred Heart. see http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/liverpoolrcmarriages/ 1878 138 SACRED HEART MARY ANN MARIAM ANNAM DWYER JOHN JOANNEM BERILIN REQUEST FORM Jane > > > HI List > > I'm new to this particular List and have searched the Archives for any > help > with this problem. No luck, so am asking if there is anyone with any > suggestions. > > I am helping a friend research her husband's ancestor who emigrated from > Ireland to Liverpool sometime before 1878. His name was John BURILIN and > this is the name the family has used ever since, but it seems to have been > a > new version of another name. (Burlin? Burland? Barlan? Bryland? Etc etc) > 23 year old John Berilin married Mary Ann DWYER at the Church of Our Lady > of > Mercy (marriage cert), in 1878. His father is John Berilin too. 'Our' > John > became Burilin in the 1881 Census and he gave his place of birth as > Ireland. > > My problems: > > . I cannot find anything about this Church. I did find a > mid-1850s > picture of a convent of Our Lady of Mercy and wondered if it was likely > that > they were married in the Chapel of the convent? > > . Where could I find the records of such a marriage? I have > looked > in the Liverpool Record Office index and there's nothing there. Would it > be > appropriate to write to the diocese office ? (if there is such a thing - I > have not done any Catholic (or Irish) research so am not sure of the > procedure.) > > . The Marriage Certificate says 'Married by Certificate" I'm used > to English and Scottish certs which say "By licence' or 'After banns' so I > don't know what significance this has. > > . John is not on the 1871 Census and nor are there any others with > the name, which suggests he went to Liverpool on his own. But how on > earth > do I find whereabouts in Ireland? > > . Mary Ann Dwyer's father came from Co Kilkenny. Did Irish people > stick together with others from their home area? > > So many questions, but if someone could help with even one I'd be > grateful! > I just don't know where to go from here. > > Many thanks > > Dorothy > > New Zealand > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/15/2009 03:11:39
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] The GORDONS--(East) Liverpool to Newfoundland ca 1750
    2. David Armstrong
    3. G'day Ron, The Maritime History Archive, at Memorial University, St John's, Newfoundland (not to be confused with St John, New Brunswick) has one of the largest collections of maritime records, particularly for the Atlantic, so they would be an obvious place to make enquiries. http://www.mun.ca/mha/ (By the way, if you get the chance go to Newfoundland! The Newfies are a great bunch, and I had a ball when I was there. The Royal Newfoundland Constabulary pride themselves on being the only police force in North America not to carry side arms.) Regards David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: RWhi3@aol.com To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 1:03 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] The GORDONS--(East) Liverpool to Newfoundland ca 1750 I want to thank all of those who responded to my above inquiry. All of the responses are helpful and appreciated. Does anyone know where I would look for passenger lists for those sailing from Liverpool, England to Newfoundland in about 1750? Would ships sail directly from Liverpool to Newfoundland? Thanks again for any help. Ron White Denver, Colo US **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001) ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/15/2009 02:50:06
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions! (+ Holy Cross Church)
    2. David Armstrong
    3. G'day Dorothy, All Marriages after the 1st July 1837 are supposed to be registered with the Civil Authorities, hence the term Civil Marriage Registers and other related phrases. As Andy has said in relation to Kay's question about Holy Cross Church, the Catholics (and non-conformist churches) had to have an authorised person present to ensure that the marriage was considered legally legitimate, but the ceremony would still be by Banns etc according to the rites of that church according to Canon Law. The authorised person's presence was to ensure that the ceremony also complied with Civil Law. >From the 1750s to 1837, Hardwicke's Marriage Act meant that all marriages had to be in the Church of England, with the exception of the Quakers and the Jews, to ensure legal legitimacy. Failure by catholics and non-conformists to comply with this meant that their children were illegitimate in the eyes of the law and had no right of inheritance etc. The start of Civil Registration in 1837, also brought in the concept of Civil Marriages conducted by the Superintendent-Registrar of the Register Office. These marriages are "by Certificate". In England, a Marriage Licence is a Church Licence issued to avoid the procedure of having the Banns called in Church. The use of a Certificate in a Church ceremony, suggests to me two things. First, the couple had not lived in the parish long enough to conform to Canon Law for the purposes of marriage. And secondly, that it may have been a mixed marriage, ie a Catholic to a Protestant, which would in conformance with Canon Law. One variation of the name Burilin which you didn't canvass was "Berlin". There were a group of German Protestants in Ireland who are referred to as Palatines in that they were religious refugees from the Palatine in Germany. Have you checked the etymology of the name? Hope this helps David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: D E Gaunt To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:13 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions! HI List I'm new to this particular List and have searched the Archives for any help with this problem. No luck, so am asking if there is anyone with any suggestions. I am helping a friend research her husband's ancestor who emigrated from Ireland to Liverpool sometime before 1878. His name was John BURILIN and this is the name the family has used ever since, but it seems to have been a new version of another name. (Burlin? Burland? Barlan? Bryland? Etc etc) 23 year old John Berilin married Mary Ann DWYER at the Church of Our Lady of Mercy (marriage cert), in 1878. His father is John Berilin too. 'Our' John became Burilin in the 1881 Census and he gave his place of birth as Ireland. My problems: . I cannot find anything about this Church. I did find a mid-1850s picture of a convent of Our Lady of Mercy and wondered if it was likely that they were married in the Chapel of the convent? . Where could I find the records of such a marriage? I have looked in the Liverpool Record Office index and there's nothing there. Would it be appropriate to write to the diocese office ? (if there is such a thing - I have not done any Catholic (or Irish) research so am not sure of the procedure.) . The Marriage Certificate says 'Married by Certificate" I'm used to English and Scottish certs which say "By licence' or 'After banns' so I don't know what significance this has. . John is not on the 1871 Census and nor are there any others with the name, which suggests he went to Liverpool on his own. But how on earth do I find whereabouts in Ireland? . Mary Ann Dwyer's father came from Co Kilkenny. Did Irish people stick together with others from their home area? So many questions, but if someone could help with even one I'd be grateful! I just don't know where to go from here. Many thanks Dorothy New Zealand

    07/15/2009 02:43:37
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Herger Family & FreeBMD
    2. mime
    3. Hello Claire, Thanks greatly for clearing this up.  Have sent in a correction reject for Minnie and now can finally put my GED Minnie to bed :-) Since this same error shows up on Ancestry, they must be sharing transcriptions with FreeBMD.  Have looked at the 'original scans' before, but have disregarded them as I was not sure when or who created them (the type written pages).  Any Ideas?  For humour, another mess is her sister's marriage in 1893/1894. That one I've worked out though, so is not a problem. Thanks again for your help, Scott B Canada --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Claire <ocean9@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: From: Claire <ocean9@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Herger Family To: mykinmik@yahoo.com, eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Received: Wednesday, July 15, 2009, 3:23 AM Hello Scott, If you look at the original index for December 1881 there is only one entry and that is for Minna Herger. Go to Freebmd and enter Herger in births. Click on the glasses to the right of the entry for Minna. On the right hand side under display format, choose which format to use and then on the left hand side click on view the original. A dialog box will appear asking if you want to open the file, click on OK. Regards Claire ----- Original Message ----- From: <mykinmik@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 8:21 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Herger Family Hello from Canada, I am hoping someone can help with my Herger family. As best as I can see, there are only a few unrelated Herger families in the UK in the late 1800's, so there shouldn't be a problem. But sadly it is never as it seems. FreeBMD and Ancestry show a Minna Herger and Minnie Herger born in Dec 1881. ( I know the family line is prone to twins ie:- Charles & Otto Herger born Mar 1877) The problem comes when the 1891 Census only shows Minna Herger with family, the 1901 Census only shows Minnie Herger at school with her other sisters, and the only other entry for Minna/Minnie in FreeBMD shows Minna getting married in 1908. So would the double entry for the birth certificates be a correction for the other (would one of the birth certificates be stamped with a correction comment?) and Minnie/Minna be the same person, or would they really have been twins. Would there have been any local registries that might help? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Scott B Canada      __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier.  Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message __________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

    07/15/2009 12:51:37
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] The GORDONS--(East) Liverpool to Newfoundland ca 1750
    2. Terry Heath
    3. Ron Again, a google search for "newfoundland shipping 1750" will provide you with ample information on the trade and immigration [especially Irish] from 1750 era. St Johns, Newfoundland has a very extensive collection of shipping records at their Maritime Museum.. Terry Heath Cheltenham UK

    07/14/2009 06:43:21
    1. [ENG-LIV] DEATHS AND INQUESTS 1853
    2. Merseyside
    3. On new snippets page Please support free sites http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/index.html Jane

    07/14/2009 02:51:18
    1. [ENG-LIV] Burilin in List archives 1996
    2. Joan Rooney
    3. Hi, >From the Liverpool list Archives in Sept 29, 1996 there is a surname list including BURILIN Carlow, IRL>Liverpool c1880 on Nancy Parkinson Walton MJPHHR@pacbell.net Regards, Joan ----- Original admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2009 12:05:43
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions!
    2. Joan Rooney
    3. Hi, >From the Archives in 1996 I found this ----- Original Message ----- From: "D E Gaunt" <gauntd@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 17:13 Subject: [ENG-LIV] BURILIN - many questions! > > > HI List > > I'm new to this particular List and have searched the Archives for any > help > with this problem. No luck, so am asking if there is anyone with any > suggestions. > > I am helping a friend research her husband's ancestor who emigrated from > Ireland to Liverpool sometime before 1878. His name was John BURILIN and > this is the name the family has used ever since, but it seems to have been > a > new version of another name. (Burlin? Burland? Barlan? Bryland? Etc etc) > 23 year old John Berilin married Mary Ann DWYER at the Church of Our Lady > of > Mercy (marriage cert), in 1878. His father is John Berilin too. 'Our' > John > became Burilin in the 1881 Census and he gave his place of birth as > Ireland. > > My problems: > > . I cannot find anything about this Church. I did find a > mid-1850s > picture of a convent of Our Lady of Mercy and wondered if it was likely > that > they were married in the Chapel of the convent? > > . Where could I find the records of such a marriage? I have > looked > in the Liverpool Record Office index and there's nothing there. Would it > be > appropriate to write to the diocese office ? (if there is such a thing - I > have not done any Catholic (or Irish) research so am not sure of the > procedure.) > > . The Marriage Certificate says 'Married by Certificate" I'm used > to English and Scottish certs which say "By licence' or 'After banns' so I > don't know what significance this has. > > . John is not on the 1871 Census and nor are there any others with > the name, which suggests he went to Liverpool on his own. But how on > earth > do I find whereabouts in Ireland? > > . Mary Ann Dwyer's father came from Co Kilkenny. Did Irish people > stick together with others from their home area? > > So many questions, but if someone could help with even one I'd be > grateful! > I just don't know where to go from here. > > Many thanks > > Dorothy > > New Zealand > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/14/2009 12:01:42
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. LiverpoolLady
    3. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/holy/hol y01.htm one of quite a few from google ....hope it helps. If you need a hand just email off list. Ttfn Lesley Ü Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Hello all, I am new to posting on this list.  I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881.  Does this church still exist?  Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church.  I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate.  Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2009 10:27:07
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Anne Peat
    3. Hi Kay In 1881 the GRO record should be an exact copy of the entry in the marriage register. That said, the GRO certificate is the result of several people copying the original register - when quarterly returns were sent in to the local registrar and when their details were sent to the GRO - so errors could have crept in. Their early registers covering the period you are interested in have been deposited at the Liverpool Record Office See http://tinyurl.com/cbxnua They don't yet appear to have reached Lancashire BMD records. See http://tinyurl.com/nz293z Happy hunting Anne On 14 Jul 2009, at 16:04, Kay Allen wrote: > Hello all, > > I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO > certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother > which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July > 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the > marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church > record listed more info than the GRO certificate. > > Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they > originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 > before coming to USA. > Thank you. > Kay >

    07/14/2009 10:24:58
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Marged
    3. Holy Cross Church, Great Crosshall Street, closed in 2001 The registers are at Our Lady's, Eldon Street Address for writing: Our Lady of Reconciliation Presbytery 39 Eldon Place Liverpool L3 6HE Telephone 0151-207-0177 Fax:0151-298-2112 e-mail: stanthony282@btinternet.com or graemedunne@hotmail.com The Parish Priest ----- Original Message ----- From: Kay Allen To: ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 4:04 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2009 10:21:51
    1. [ENG-LIV] The GORDONS--(East) Liverpool to Newfoundland ca 1750
    2. I want to thank all of those who responded to my above inquiry. All of the responses are helpful and appreciated. Does anyone know where I would look for passenger lists for those sailing from Liverpool, England to Newfoundland in about 1750? Would ships sail directly from Liverpool to Newfoundland? Thanks again for any help. Ron White Denver, Colo US **************Can love help you live longer? Find out now. (http://personals.aol.com/articles/2009/02/18/longer-lives-through-relationships/?ncid=emlweu slove00000001)

    07/14/2009 07:03:06
    1. [ENG-LIV] Herger Family
    2. Hello from Canada, I am hoping someone can help with my Herger family.  As best as I can see, there are only a few unrelated Herger families in the UK in the late 1800's, so there shouldn't be a problem.  But sadly it is never as it seems. FreeBMD and Ancestry show a Minna Herger and Minnie Herger born in Dec 1881.  ( I know the family line is prone to twins ie:- Charles & Otto Herger born Mar 1877) The problem comes when the 1891 Census only shows Minna Herger with family, the 1901 Census only shows Minnie Herger at school with her other sisters, and the only other entry for Minna/Minnie in FreeBMD shows Minna getting married in 1908.  So would the double entry for the birth certificates be a correction for the other (would one of the birth certificates be stamped with a correction comment?) and Minnie/Minna be the same person, or would they really have been twins.  Would there have been any local registries that might help? Any help would be greatly appreciated, Scott B Canada  __________________________________________________________________ The new Internet Explorer® 8 - Faster, safer, easier. Optimized for Yahoo! Get it Now for Free! at http://downloads.yahoo.com/ca/internetexplorer/

    07/14/2009 06:21:18
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] New Lister: The GORDONs of East Liverpool toNewfoundland
    2. Terry Heath
    3. Ron White There is no other town or city of that name in the world, according to google search engine. In Liverpool, England, there is a vague description of a East district , see: http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/Images/tcm21-65453.pdf Terry Heath Cheltenham UK

    07/14/2009 06:06:42
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record --- online records
    2. Joan Rooney
    3. Kay, Also online is Marriages at Holy Cross, 1855 - 1897Joan----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay Allen" <kfa818@yahoo.com> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:04 Subject: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record Hello all, I am new to posting on this list. I just received my first GRO certificate yesterday for the marriage of my ggrandfather/mother which showed the marriage took place at Holy Cross Church on July 20?, 1881. Does this church still exist? Where might I obtain the marriage record from this church. I would like to see if the church record listed more info than the GRO certificate. Their names were James Cregan and Bridget Mary Manley and they originally came from Ireland and lived in Liverpool until 1890 before coming to USA. Thank you. Kay ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/14/2009 05:39:47
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Joan Rooney
    3. Hi Kay, There are several sites found by googling. Here below are two. The church was in use until 2000 and only recently demolished. Hope this helps, Joan Ottawa www.scottiepress.org/gallery/hocross freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com Early registers have been deposited at the Liverpool Record Office Record Office ref.: HOL 282Registers: Bap. 1849 - 1907 * Mat. 1856 - 1897 * Conf. 1861 - 1898 * Printed index: Marriages 1855 - 1897 (Hq 929.5 HOL) Microfiche index: Marriages 1855 - 1897Microfilm: Registers 1897 - 1941 -----

    07/14/2009 05:38:37
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Hi Kay I tried to send the following off list but it didn't work, so here it is below. Best Wishes Lorraine Holy Cross RC Church; History, Records and Information _History, Records & Information_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/rcrec.htm) | _Home Page_ (http:/ /freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/index.htm) ____________________________________ Great Crosshall Street Liverpool L3 2AP This Large Roman Catholic church stands near to where St Patrick's Cross was erected to mark St Patrick's Hill, supposedly the site where St Patrick preached on his way to Ireland. The Parish was established in 1849, and the first church, designed by Edward Pugin, opening in 1860. The church was badly damaged during the Second World War, and reopened after rebuilding in 1854. It is a Decorated Gothic building made of red sandstone. At the time of writing, the church was earmarked for closure in the restructuring of inner city parishes. The above description comes from 'The Churches of Liverpool' by David Lewis Published by The Bluecoat Press ISBN 1 872568 76 9 © 2001 David Lewis (This book also has many fine photographs of Liverpool churches) Reproduced with the permission of: Colin Wilkinson of The Bluecoat Press Bluecoat Chambers School Lane Liverpool L1 3BX ***** Extracts from Archdiocese of Liverpool Directories: Priest's order: Oblates of Mary Immaculate (OMI) Baptism Registers started in 1849 Marriage Register started in 1854 The church was destroyed by enemy action in 1941 Rebuilt in 1954 Parish closed 2001 Later registers, mostly held at St Anthony's, Scotland Road ***** Early registers have been deposited at the _Liverpool Record Office_ (http://www.familia.org.uk/services/england/liverpool.html) Record Office ref.: HOL 282 Registers: Bap. 1849 - 1907 * Mat. 1856 - 1897 * Conf. 1861 - 1898 * Printed index: Marriages 1855 - 1897 (Hq 929.5 HOL) Microfiche index: Marriages 1855 - 1897 Microfilm: Registers 1897 - 1941 ***** Available from _Liverpool & S.W. Lancashire FHS publications_ (http://www.liverpool-genealogy.org.uk/) : Microfiche index: Marriages 1897 - 1897 ***** Information online: _Marriages at Holy Cross, 1855 - 1897_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/mar/ind.htm) ***** * ORIGINAL REGISTERS NOT AVAILABLE IF MICROFILM COPY ARE HELD BY THE RECORD OFFICE. MANY REGISTERS WERE MICROFILMED IN THE 1940'S AS A PRECAUTION AGAINST LOSS DUE TO ENEMY BOMBING. THE QUALITY OF SOME OF THESE COPIES IS NOT GREAT. ____________________________________ View pictures of _Holy Cross;_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/holy/holy01.htm) more pictures & information at _Scottie Press _ (http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/main.htm) _History, Records & Information_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/churches/rcrec.htm) | _Home Page_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hibernia/index.htm) Last Updated May 2007 Copyright © 2007 Patrick Neill

    07/14/2009 05:23:19
    1. Re: [ENG-LIV] Holy Cross Church marriage record
    2. Hi Kay Info sent off list. Kind regards Lorraine

    07/14/2009 05:18:22