Hi, I'm making another stab at my brick wall. James WHITE born 1820s in Ireland - possibly Wicklow - went to Liverpool after 1848. In 1879 at the time of his daughter Annie White's marriage in Liverpool he is given as a Teacher in Everton. I don't know the wife's name, or any siblings for Annie who was born c1847 in Wicklow(1871 census). I've never found the family in 1861 and I've never found a matching James in Liverpool in1871. Annie by 1871 is married to a seaman and lodging with a seaman and his wife. Maybe James passed away before 1871? This a longstanding puzzle. Any help please, Joan Ottawa

Would someone be willing to visit Liverpool Central Library and enquire whether they have a photograph of Red Cross Street or George Court off that street c. 1860 ? Thank you. Ron Chapman

Diane, Arrived Southampton from Natal on 'Balmoral Castle' on 10 June 1911. It does not give any more information other that he was travelling 1st class and was unaccompanied. A Master C Rock, age between 1 and 12, arrived Southampton from Cape Town in May 1902 with Mr(s?) E Rock. David -----Original Message----- From: eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:eng-liverpool-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of diane roscoe Sent: 25 July 2009 11:41 To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Subject: [ENG-LIV] cw rock- incoming passenger list Hi Listers, Would SKS with an Ancestry subscription get me the details of a mr C W Rock born 1852 in Warwickshire who was on the UK incoming passenger list 1878-1960. I can't see the detail of it but I can see that there is a record. Thank you! Diane _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>From the internet http://www.leverpoole.co.uk/herdman-1856.shtm sent Saturday 1;13pm Lesley -----Original Message----- From Would someone be willing to visit Liverpool Central Library and enquire whether they have a photograph of Red Cross Street or George Court off that street c. 1860 ? Thank you. Ron Chapman

Hi Listers, Would SKS with an Ancestry subscription get me the details of a mr C W Rock born 1852 in Warwickshire who was on the UK incoming passenger list 1878-1960. I can't see the detail of it but I can see that there is a record. Thank you! Diane _________________________________________________________________ Celebrate a decade of Messenger with free winks, emoticons, display pics, and more. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

The Chronicle Herald, Halifax, Nova Scotia, July 25, 2009 CAMPBELL, Flora H. 96, Boylston, Guysborough Co., passed away Wednesday, July 22, 2009, in Milford Haven Home For Special Care, Guysborough. Flora was born in Liverpool, England in 1913, a daughter of George Pynn and Beatrice Ann Crane and came to Canada with her parents in 1920. She attended Tower Road School in Halifax, played the harp in the CHNS orchestra in the late 1920's and early 1930's. She was a member of St. Paul's Anglican Church, Boylston for 53 years, played the organ there and in several other area churches and also taught piano to many children in the area. She was a member and Past Matron of The Order of the Eastern Star, Guysborough and also a founding member of Chedabucto Curling Club, Boylston, and was a volunteer in many community projects. She is survived by sons, David (Marlene), Dartmouth and Wilfred, Ontario; grandson, Christopher (Isabelle); granddaughter, Lesley (Michael) Manuel; great-grandchildren, Peter and Joshua Campbell, Madison and Stone Manuel. She was predeceased by her parents; her husband, William Campbell; brothers, Leonard and Harry and baby sister, Lily. Cremation has taken place. A private burial will take place at a later date. There will be no visitation or memorial service as per her request. The family greatly appreciates the love and special care from Shirley Nixon, Nancy Grady, doctors, nurses and all staff associated with The Milford Haven Home For Special Care. Donations in Flora's memory may be made to The Guysborough Memorial Hospital or The Milford Haven Home for Special Care. Funeral arrangements are under the care and direction of Dennis Haverstock Funeral Homes Ltd., Guysborough. Words of comfort may be forwarded to the family at: www.haverstocks.com

Another version is also available with a picture. The Chronicle Herald, Halifax, Nova Scotia, July 25, 2009 FERGUSON (Robinson) Sheila Newby- 78, Born 1931, in Lancashire England, died peacefully at home surrounded by her family on July 22, 2009 in Dartmouth. She was the daughter of Steve and Lily Robinson; survived by her loving sister Mrs. Jean (George)Stewart, Crayford, Kent; Aunt of Elizabeth, David, Alistair, William, Rosemary, Andrew and James, all residents of the United Kingdom. Sheila trained as a nurse at the London Hospital in White Chapel, England. In the spring of 1956 Sheila immigrated to Canada sailing from Liverpool on the steamship Saxonia, arriving at Pier 21 in Halifax. She worked at the Toronto General Hospital and the T B Sanatorium, Vancouver, BC. Married David E. Ferguson and together they raised a family in Vancouver, London, Saskatoon, settling in Nova Scotia. Sheila's greatest joy was being a Mother of Neil Ferguson (predeceased 2004, aged 45), Cathy Ferguson, Dartmouth, Brenda (David) Jacobsen, Darien CT; Craig (Mary) Ferguson, Lunenburg; Linda (Doug) Clapp, Rochester NY. Sheila was an advocate for people suffering from mental illness and volunteered many hours to help others throughout her lifetime. She played Scrabble on the computer and solved crypto quotes found in the daily newspaper. Sheila loved her small supportive group of clergy wives, a good book and a cup of tea; and was a longtime patron of the Woodlawn Public Library. She was a Community member of Northwood Manor in Halifax and spent many happy hours attending classes and met many interesting people. She will be missed by her four grown children and her six grandchildren; Ingrid, Rosemary and Rachael (CT), Henry and David (NY) and Tessa (NS). Sheila's children will remember her laughter; quick wit; love of literature; her "way" with words. Many thanks to WeCare and Palliative Care for their support. Cremation has taken place. Visitation will be held Tuesday, July 28 from 7-9 p.m. at the Dartmouth Funeral Home, 29 Queen St.; a Memorial Service and Celebration of Sheila's life will be held at 11a.m. July 29 in Christ Church Parish Hall, 61 Dundas St., Dartmouth, Rev. Jody Clarke officiating. In lieu of flowers; donations may be made to Woodlawn Library,115 Woodlawn Rd., Dartmouth; or Hope for Wildlife Society, 5909 Hwy. 207, Head of Chezzetcook, NS., B0J 1N0 in memory of Sheila Ferguson.

Hi Ron, I am at the Picton Library every Monday and will ask about a possible photo of Red Cross St, etc. Will contact you Monday evening. Regards, Ray, Wirral ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Chapman" <avron@paradise.net.nz> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:38 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Central Library enquiry > > Would someone be willing to visit Liverpool Central Library and enquire > whether they have a photograph of Red Cross Street or George Court off > that street c. 1860 ? Thank you. > Ron Chapman > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Morning all, Here are the newest transcriptions from the OPC website: http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html 23 July 2009 Baptisms 1838 to 1849 from the Parish of Birch in Rusholme Marriages 1875 to 1890 from the Parish of Goodshaw The first part of the Register for Marriages 1875 to 1907 Baptisms 1830 to 1837 from Claremont Grove Independent Chapel, Kirkdale Baptisms 1824 to 1829 from the Church of St Peter, Oldham Burials 1917 to 1929 from St Paul, Peel in the Parish of Little Hulton Marriages 1805 to 1807 from St Chad in the Town of Rochdale Burials 1803 to 1805 and 1848 from St Chad in the Town of Rochdale Baptisms 1837 to 1850 from the Church of St Paul, Royton Happy hunting! Regards, Sally

Your Slater family noted below is distantly related to me. Please contact me directly Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "jean" <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> To: "yorkshire.123" <yorkshire.123@virgin.net>; <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:19 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater > Wow that was quick, thank you. > > Jean > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yorkshire.123" <yorkshire.123@virgin.net> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Cc: <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> > Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:14 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater > > >> jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk >> wrote >> snip< 1891 census of a Jane Slater age 13, estimated year of birth 1878, >> >> Hi Jean >> The 1881 shows >> Richard SLATER Head M Male 23 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock >> Porter >> Ann SLATER Wife M Female 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock >> Porters Wife >> Richard SLATER Son Male 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jane >> SLATER Daur Female 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England >> Ann SLATER Daur Female 5 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England >> Source Information: >> Dwelling 44 Avison St >> Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England >> Family History Library Film 1341870 >> Public Records Office Reference RG11 >> Piece / Folio 3635 / 141 >> Page Number 54 >> >> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/22/09 > 05:59:00 > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, I have no idea whether or not there are accessible studies on Liverpool dock workers and companies. But I'd guess there have to be records of the old Mersey Docks and Harbour Board somewhere. The Maritime Museum? As I said in an earlier post I am so long gone from the Merseyside shipping scene I can no longer recall if there was, or was not, an association of stevedores and master porterage companies. Not telling Grannie how to suck eggs so apologies if you already know that stevedores load and discharge ships while master porters stow etc. the cargo from under the hook to the warehouse. Bill in Nanaimo ----- Original Message ----- From: "william roberts" <william.roberts7@btinternet.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:53 AM Subject: [ENG-LIV] EARLE AND LANGTON FAMILY > Bill thanks for the info on the above families.This branch of the Langton > family don't appear to be connected with mine,although I have a feeling > that the Langton's who operated as Master Porters on each of the 3 > Liverpool Docks in the late 18th century couldn't have without the > influence of the of the rich Merchant Families like the Langton and > Earles.I have also found a Peggy Langton daughter of Edmond Langton[Master > Porter] marrying a Francis Bayley.The Bayley Family were not without > influence in Liverpool at this time.It seems to me a Cartel was in place > at the Docks.I would love to be able to find out if any in depth study has > been done of the operation of the docks at this time. > Margaret[Wigan] > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The father of the Jane Slater, I'm looking for was called John, so sorry, no connection here. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Font" <david.font@xtra.co.nz> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater > Your Slater family noted below is distantly related to me. Please contact > me > directly > > Regards > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jean" <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> > To: "yorkshire.123" <yorkshire.123@virgin.net>; > <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:19 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater > > >> Wow that was quick, thank you. >> >> Jean >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "yorkshire.123" <yorkshire.123@virgin.net> >> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater >> >> >>> jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk >>> wrote >>> snip< 1891 census of a Jane Slater age 13, estimated year of birth 1878, >>> >>> Hi Jean >>> The 1881 shows >>> Richard SLATER Head M Male 23 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock >>> Porter >>> Ann SLATER Wife M Female 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock >>> Porters Wife >>> Richard SLATER Son Male 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jane >>> SLATER Daur Female 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England >>> Ann SLATER Daur Female 5 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England >>> Source Information: >>> Dwelling 44 Avison St >>> Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England >>> Family History Library Film 1341870 >>> Public Records Office Reference RG11 >>> Piece / Folio 3635 / 141 >>> Page Number 54 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: >> 07/22/09 >> 05:59:00 >> >> >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.24/2255 - Release Date: 07/22/09 18:00:00

Wow that was quick, thank you. Jean ----- Original Message ----- From: "yorkshire.123" <yorkshire.123@virgin.net> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Cc: <jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk> Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:14 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Jane Slater > jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk > wrote > snip< 1891 census of a Jane Slater age 13, estimated year of birth 1878, > > Hi Jean > The 1881 shows > Richard SLATER Head M Male 23 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock > Porter > Ann SLATER Wife M Female 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock > Porters Wife > Richard SLATER Son Male 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jane > SLATER Daur Female 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England > Ann SLATER Daur Female 5 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England > Source Information: > Dwelling 44 Avison St > Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England > Family History Library Film 1341870 > Public Records Office Reference RG11 > Piece / Folio 3635 / 141 > Page Number 54 > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.23/2254 - Release Date: 07/22/09 05:59:00

jeancflanagan@blueyonder.co.uk wrote snip< 1891 census of a Jane Slater age 13, estimated year of birth 1878, Hi Jean The 1881 shows Richard SLATER Head M Male 23 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock Porter Ann SLATER Wife M Female 25 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Dock Porters Wife Richard SLATER Son Male 4 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Jane SLATER Daur Female 3 Liverpool, Lancashire, England Ann SLATER Daur Female 5 m Liverpool, Lancashire, England Source Information: Dwelling 44 Avison St Census PlaceToxteth Park, Lancashire, England Family History Library Film 1341870 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 3635 / 141 Page Number 54

Hello Listers, I'm hoping SKS with Findmypast, will do a look-up for me. I have the following details for 1891 census of a Jane Slater age 13, estimated year of birth 1878, relationship to head, Daur. Occupation general servant. Address 23 court 5 house Upper Frederick Street. District St Thomas Liverpool. Administrative County, Lancashire. Birth Place Liverpool. I can't find Jane on Ancestry, so hoping that these details have come from FMP. What I need to know, is the names of parents, occupation etc, and any other persons in that household. Many thanks in advance. Jean District St Thomas, Liverpool Parish Administrative County Lancashire Birth Place Liverpool Birth County

Bill thanks for the info on the above families.This branch of the Langton family don't appear to be connected with mine,although I have a feeling that the Langton's who operated as Master Porters on each of the 3 Liverpool Docks in the late 18th century couldn't have without the influence of the of the rich Merchant Families like the Langton and Earles.I have also found a Peggy Langton daughter of Edmond Langton[Master Porter] marrying a Francis Bayley.The Bayley Family were not without influence in Liverpool at this time.It seems to me a Cartel was in place at the Docks.I would love to be able to find out if any in depth study has been done of the operation of the docks at this time. Margaret[Wigan]

What a lucky bunch of Listers we are! This morning I found a BUMPER crop of transcriptions on the OPC site (http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/indexw.html), some of which will keep me busy in this rainy British summer... 21 July 2009 Marriages 1896 to 1900 from St Andrew in the Parish of Ashton on Ribble Marriages 1844 to 1846 from the church of St Mary the Virgin, Deane in Bolton Baptisms 1884 to 1891 from the Church of St Matthew, Little Lever Baptisms 1868 to 1886 from the Christ Church, Walmsley, Bolton Baptisms and Burials 1801 to 1817 and Burials 1872 to 1878 from the Parish of Downham Marriages 1900 to 1915 from St Thomas, Dixon Green, Farnworth Baptisms 1850 to 1887 from the Parish of Halsall A continuation of the Register for Baptisms 1838 to 1887 Marriages 1795 to 1807 and Burials 1793 to 1807 from the Parish of Haslingden Burials 1823 to 1830 from the Church of St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Leigh Burials 1892 to 1917 from the Church of St Chad, Kirkby, Liverpool Burials for 1780 and 1781 from the Church of St Nicholas, Liverpool Baptisms 1902 to 1927 from the Church of St Catherine, Abercromby Square, Liverpool Baptisms 1833 to 1837 from the Independent Chapel, Toxteth, Liverpool Burials for 1813 to 1889 from the Parish of Newton-le-Willows Baptisms 1795 to 1806 from St John in the Parish of Preston Marriages 1869 to 1900 from St George in the Parish of Preston Burials 1827 to 1830 from St Mary the Virgin in the Parish of Prestwich Marriages 1831 to 1837 from the Parish of Rainford Marriages 1933 to 1943 from St Paul the Apostle, Pendleton Baptisms 1811 to 1837 from the New Jerusalem Temple, Salford Baptisms 1864 to 1883 from St Paul in the Town of Southport Regards, Sally

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