I have encountered similar experiences. I have tried to contact owners of "Personal" trees on half a dozen times and not received any replies. This has raised the same thoughts as yourself Rhonda as well as thinking What's the point of going to the effort to create a "Personal" tree that is kept private. Do I smell a rat ? Is there skullduggery afoot ? Dave D. > Hello Sue, > > I have had the same problem, I may be wrong however, I feel it is Ancestry > randomly matching people. I have noticed they have matched my family member > names in here in Australia, that are not correct. If I try to contact the > owner it is Aussie12345 or Aussie 2250 and so on. Oh and you cannot contact > them. They don't seem to be true family trees just Randomly chosen. My > grandfather born Coonamable, New South Wales 1896 died 1986 Sydney, New > South Wales. I have found my grandfathers birth matched a number of times, > with his death recorded as America, sometimes India. > > I have no idea why they do this. > > Rhonda Newell. > NSW > Australia. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> > To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 11:44 PM > Subject: [ENG-LIV] Wrong ancestors on tree...why be so careless? > > > > Hello Listers > > > > While things have been a bit quiet I decided to spend some time on > Ancestry.co.uk and see who else was researching my family names and looked > at their public trees. > > > > I can't believe the number of people who have my grandparents, and some > great grandparents who have absolutely nothing to do with them on their > tree! I've found 5 in a few days. > > > > Why would you put someone in your tree when you don't have some real proof > they are your family? It just made me so cross. > > > > rant over > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and > emoticons. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

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thank you kathy - brilliant Audrey O'Keefe ----- Original Message ----- From: "kathy binns" <kathybinns@aol.com> To: <ENG-LIVERPOOL@rootsweb.com>; <eng-merseyside@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Roman Catholic Records and more > > > Hi all, > I came across the following site today. I found the marriage index pages > very useful but the site contains lots of useful links many of which I > have never come across before. It appears to be quite recently updated and > I can't remember seeing details being posted on the list. > > http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/index.htm > > regards > Kathy > Wirral > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I've found a few cases like this with some of my own family on ancestry and genesreunited, you're not alone with feeling cross! Jane :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Miller" <suemiller48@hotmail.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 15, 2009 2:44 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Wrong ancestors on tree...why be so careless? > > Hello Listers > > > > While things have been a bit quiet I decided to spend some time on > Ancestry.co.uk and see who else was researching my family names and looked > at their public trees. > > > > I can't believe the number of people who have my grandparents, and some > great grandparents who have absolutely nothing to do with them on their > tree! I've found 5 in a few days. > > > > Why would you put someone in your tree when you don't have some real proof > they are your family? It just made me so cross. > > > > rant over > > > > Sue > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and > emoticons. > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.58/2304 - Release Date: 08/15/09 06:10:00

Hello Listers While things have been a bit quiet I decided to spend some time on Ancestry.co.uk and see who else was researching my family names and looked at their public trees. I can't believe the number of people who have my grandparents, and some great grandparents who have absolutely nothing to do with them on their tree! I've found 5 in a few days. Why would you put someone in your tree when you don't have some real proof they are your family? It just made me so cross. rant over Sue _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/

Hi all, I came across the following site today. I found the marriage index pages very useful but the site contains lots of useful links many of which I have never come across before. It appears to be quite recently updated and I can't remember seeing details being posted on the list. http://www.liverpoolhistoryprojects.co.uk/index.htm regards Kathy Wirral

I have a newspaper article on the KIRKDALE EASTER SESSIONS, 1830. It describes the Rev. J. Brooks presiding or as being "in the chair". Does anyone happen to be researching the BROOKS family which includes this Rev.? Does Presiding or being in the chair mean this man was the judge? There's also a line in my guy's petition to the King that he was convicted by a "jury of his country". does anyone know the size of a jury at the quarter sessions ... would it be 12? Thanks for any help/suggestions/recommended reading. Janet in California

yes i know what you mean. i have had folk look at my tree on genes and take the whole tree and add it to thiers. with no rellies at all. i feel i have been robbed.

Thank you David, will keep my eyes out for it. Glenys ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <davidrli@iinet.net.au> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 14, 2009 7:48 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Who Do You Think You Are? - Australia > G'day, > > To the Aussies on the list: > > SBS have started advertising as "coming soon" a new Australian series of > "Who do you think you are?" Given it's previous time slot, I suspect that > it will be starting at the end of the current Ashes series that SBS is > broadcasting, ie within a fortnight or so. > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: GILLIAN52@aol.com > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:04 AM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Who Do You Think You Are? > > > I agree I thought tonight's episode was one of the best I have seen and > how > sad for the other daughters who never knew their father. Yes agree Kim > was > great and very tactful. > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

G'day, To the Aussies on the list: SBS have started advertising as "coming soon" a new Australian series of "Who do you think you are?" Given it's previous time slot, I suspect that it will be starting at the end of the current Ashes series that SBS is broadcasting, ie within a fortnight or so. David Armstrong Maylands, Western Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: GILLIAN52@aol.com To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 6:04 AM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] Who Do You Think You Are? I agree I thought tonight's episode was one of the best I have seen and how sad for the other daughters who never knew their father. Yes agree Kim was great and very tactful.

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Hi Dot, Great! I will definitely be contacting you off list to discuss this in more detail. Sharon >Hi Sharon, > >I think we are connected! > >My grandmothers were the oldest and youngest daughters of Elizabeth Ann >HARRISON nee BARTON. > >Elizabeth was the daughter of George BARTON and Elizabeth BIBBY. > >In 1851 George and Elizabeth are living at Mossborough Road Rainford with >their children Mary, James, John, Jane and Elizabeth's unmarried brother >Peter. > >By 1861 they are at Almonds Green with just John at home from the children >on the 1851 but with younger children Richard and Elizabeth Ann aged 3 > >Elizabeth Bibby was one of the many children of John (Jonathan) BIBBY and >Mary and she was born at Windle in 1820. > >Regards, > >Dot > >Dorothy Holden >Dover Kent England

I have pasted the British Gov. response to the petition mentioned below. Dave D. "Thank you for your e-petition which calls on the Government to provide full and open access to the registers of birth, marriage and death between 1837 and 1908. The Government understands that many family researchers want to have full and open access to the information in historic birth, death and marriage registers and accepts that the current legislation is overly restrictive with these records. Under current legislation - the Births and Deaths Registration Act 1953 and the Marriage Act 1949 - access to the information in birth, death and marriage registers is only possible by means of a certified copy (certificate) of a particular entry, when that entry has been identified from the index and the statutory fee paid. There are other pieces of legislation which allow for the release of information in birth, death and marriage registers for specific purposes, e.g. statistical data, but there is no power to provide full and open public access. The Government proposed in 2003 a wide-ranging set of reforms to the civil registration service in England and Wales. These proposals included an intention to digitise all the records with historic records being accessible to view on a database, possibly with a small charge, but without the need to purchase a certificate. It did not prove possible to introduce the necessary legislation by a Regulatory Reform Order as we had intended and there has not been a suitable opportunity to legislate since then. Nevertheless, we remain committed to modernising the way in which these records can be accessed and the Registrar General keeps this under active review."

I agree - really enjoyed it - so please it's not just my family that have skeletons in the cupboard - Audrey O'Keefe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Anchors" <sharon.anchors@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 11:01 PM Subject: [ENG-LIV] Who Do You Think You Are? > Hi List, > I thought tonight's program was the best one yet; Kim Catrell was very > caring . > Sharon. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi List, I thought tonight's program was the best one yet; Kim Catrell was very caring . Sharon.

Hi Sharon, I think we are connected! My grandmothers were the oldest and youngest daughters of Elizabeth Ann HARRISON nee BARTON. Elizabeth was the daughter of George BARTON and Elizabeth BIBBY. In 1851 George and Elizabeth are living at Mossborough Road Rainford with their children Mary, James, John, Jane and Elizabeth's unmarried brother Peter. By 1861 they are at Almonds Green with just John at home from the children on the 1851 but with younger children Richard and Elizabeth Ann aged 3 Elizabeth Bibby was one of the many children of John (Jonathan) BIBBY and Mary and she was born at Windle in 1820. Regards, Dot Dorothy Holden Dover Kent England There are three things that can never be retrieved- the spoken word, time past and the neglected opportunity I volunteer for the Random Acts of Genealogical Kindness website www.raogk.org

I agree I thought tonight's episode was one of the best I have seen and how sad for the other daughters who never knew their father. Yes agree Kim was great and very tactful. In a message dated 12/08/2009 23:02:53 GMT Standard Time, sharon.anchors@ntlworld.com writes: Hi List, I thought tonight's program was the best one yet; Kim Catrell was very caring . Sharon. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Admin Message - List guidelines: http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm The list admin can be contacted at Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Billiant David, very helpful to me - cheers Audrey O'Keefe ----- Original Message ----- From: <marion.charlesworth@ntlworld.com> To: <eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] 1876 - Birth Records > Thanks David > > I didn't know this - really useful. > > > ---- David Armstrong <davidrli@iinet.net.au> wrote: >> Don't forget that the Irish Civil Registration Indexes are on-line on the >> LDS pilot site >> >> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347 >> >> This will give you the full index reference which you'll need to order a >> certificate from the Irish GRO >> >> http://www.groireland.ie/index-2.html >> >> Regards >> >> David Armstrong >> Maylands, >> Western Australia >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: marion.charlesworth@ntlworld.com >> To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] 1876 - Birth Records >> >> >> Amazing! Thank you so much. >> >> I am ecstatic at this news. >> >> Best regards >> >> Marion >> >> >> ---- Merseyside <robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> > Anne Boyce Father: Hugh Boyce mother Anne Kerr Boyce >> > >> > Birth: 13 APR 1876 Bunesana, , Donegal, Ireland >> > >> > >> > Other siblings >> > >> > International Genealogical Index - British Isles >> > 38. Anne Boyce - International Genealogical Index / BI >> > Gender: Female Birth: 13 APR 1876 Bunesana, , Donegal, >> Ireland >> > >> > > >> > Jane >> > >> > > Her name was Annie Boyce, born 1876, married 1899 to John Lewis. >> The >> > > marriage certificate gives her father's name as HUGH BOYCE >> (deceased). I >> > > know from her >> > > that her father was born in Ireland, but there was never any >> mention of >> > > her mother. I have copy of her marriage certificate, and have >> tracked >> > > down some >> > > > Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. >> > > >> > > Thanks >> > > >> > > Marion >> > >> ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ >> >> Admin Message - List guidelines: >> http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm >> >> The list admin can be contacted at >> Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thanks David I didn't know this - really useful. ---- David Armstrong <davidrli@iinet.net.au> wrote: > Don't forget that the Irish Civil Registration Indexes are on-line on the LDS pilot site > > http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails;t=searchable;c=1408347 > > This will give you the full index reference which you'll need to order a certificate from the Irish GRO > > http://www.groireland.ie/index-2.html > > Regards > > David Armstrong > Maylands, > Western Australia > ----- Original Message ----- > From: marion.charlesworth@ntlworld.com > To: eng-liverpool@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 6:26 PM > Subject: Re: [ENG-LIV] 1876 - Birth Records > > > Amazing! Thank you so much. > > I am ecstatic at this news. > > Best regards > > Marion > > > ---- Merseyside <robertcampbell.1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > > Anne Boyce Father: Hugh Boyce mother Anne Kerr Boyce > > > > Birth: 13 APR 1876 Bunesana, , Donegal, Ireland > > > > > > Other siblings > > > > International Genealogical Index - British Isles > > 38. Anne Boyce - International Genealogical Index / BI > > Gender: Female Birth: 13 APR 1876 Bunesana, , Donegal, Ireland > > > > > > > Jane > > > > > Her name was Annie Boyce, born 1876, married 1899 to John Lewis. The > > > marriage certificate gives her father's name as HUGH BOYCE (deceased). I > > > know from her > > > that her father was born in Ireland, but there was never any mention of > > > her mother. I have copy of her marriage certificate, and have tracked > > > down some > > > > Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Marion > > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > > Admin Message - List guidelines: > http://freespace.virgin.net/genealogical.collections/AdminMessage.htm > > The list admin can be contacted at > Eng-Liverpool-admin@rootsweb.com > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ENG-LIVERPOOL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi All, I have just found where our BIBBY family came from so hoping to find someone with a connection. Jane BIBBY born 1879 was the daughter of Henry BIBBY & Margaret KNOWLES who married in 1858 at St Mary the Virgin, Prescot. According to the marriage record Henry Bibby's father's name was John BIBBY & Margaret's father was James KNOWLES. I have had some success with the OPR records on line, which I think are marvelous & also census records. The BIBBY family lived for many years at Moss Lane, Windle. Sharon Perth, Western Australia.